Should testosterone be used during a T-bol cycle?

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If turinabol suppresses natural testosterone production, should injectable testosterone be used during the T-bol cycle in an attempt to prevent T reduction ? If testosterone isn't used, what are the worst side effects that can happen, given the fact only testosterone will be lowered while the estrogen levels stay the same?

Assuming testosterone production is COMPLETELY shut down, this will also eliminate aromatization. And since turinabol doesn't aromatize, there will be nothing to be aromatized into estrogen. Besides osteoporosis, are there other dangerous side effects related to low estrogen?

Should I use injectable testosterone or oral clomiphene to keep the body stimulated to produce testosterone during a T-bol only cycle?

Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.
 
If turinabol suppresses natural testosterone production, should injectable testosterone be used during the T-bol cycle in an attempt to prevent T reduction ? If testosterone isn't used, what are the worst side effects that can happen, given the fact only testosterone will be lowered while the estrogen levels stay the same?

Assuming testosterone production is COMPLETELY shut down, this will also eliminate aromatization. And since turinabol doesn't aromatize, there will be nothing to be aromatized into estrogen. Besides osteoporosis, are there other dangerous side effects related to low estrogen?

Should I use injectable testosterone or oral clomiphene to keep the body stimulated to produce testosterone during a T-bol only cycle?

Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.
For it to be a proper cycle exogenous testosterone would be required, enless ur a woman. I doubt anyone here would tell u exactly what u should do.

Could be wrong but it sounds like ur 18 years or affraid of needles. Do u even know what ur levels are naturally?

Can u run tbol only ? Why not it shouldn't mess u up too bad, but dont expect permanent gains, or anything miraculous.
 
For it to be a proper cycle exogenous testosterone would be required, enless ur a woman. I doubt anyone here would tell u exactly what u should do.

Could be wrong but it sounds like ur 18 years or affraid of needles. Do u even know what ur levels are naturally?

Can u run tbol only ? Why not it shouldn't mess u up too bad, but dont expect permanent gains, or anything miraculous.
Why wouldn't anyone on here tell me what to do?

I'm 23 years old, actually. I'm not afraid of needles, but contaminated products. I'm planning to buy steroids from the internet, meaning they will come from the black market. There are no regulations on the black market; if someone brews steroids at the garage, for example, bacterial contamination is possible.

If I inject, contamination goes directly in my bloodstream and can cause very serious problems.

If I use pills, possible contamination will be neutralized by metabolism and stomach acids.
 
The risk of contaminated product is slim to none if you do your homework before you buy. If you're ultra paranoid you can spend the $$$ for real pharma stuff. And yeah you can do a tbol only cycle, you will most likely be underwhelmed with the results. Even a test cycle of 300g/wk would lead to more muscle.
 
If turinabol suppresses natural testosterone production, should injectable testosterone be used during the T-bol cycle in an attempt to prevent T reduction ? If testosterone isn't used, what are the worst side effects that can happen, given the fact only testosterone will be lowered while the estrogen levels stay the same?

Assuming testosterone production is COMPLETELY shut down, this will also eliminate aromatization. And since turinabol doesn't aromatize, there will be nothing to be aromatized into estrogen. Besides osteoporosis, are there other dangerous side effects related to low estrogen?

Should I use injectable testosterone or oral clomiphene to keep the body stimulated to produce testosterone during a T-bol only cycle?

Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.
Yeah definitely base your cycle off of testosterone and then decide what else to add, don't start with other compounds and then decide whether or not to add testosterone. You can do this the easy way or the hard way. The easy way being: listen to the advice you're about to get from everyone, and run testosterone. Or do it the hard way and run t-bol by itself, let it shut your balls down, and when you come off of it you will lose whatever gains you make and you'll learn what it feels like to have testosterone and estrogen crashed and you'll never make that mistake again.
 
Why wouldn't anyone on here tell me what to do?

I'm 23 years old, actually. I'm not afraid of needles, but contaminated products. I'm planning to buy steroids from the internet, meaning they will come from the black market. There are no regulations on the black market; if someone brews steroids at the garage, for example, bacterial contamination is possible.

If I inject, contamination goes directly in my bloodstream and can cause very serious problems.

If I use pills, possible contamination will be neutralized by metabolism and stomach acids.
Ahhhh, WHAT??
 
Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.
Could you explain your decision-making that led you to an Oral Turinabol only cycle?

There have always been people who felt the need to limit themselves to oral-only cycles - though as you will learn, most see no reason to do so.

Your stated reason of avoiding risk of infection/contamination from injecting black market AAS is a valid concern. However, assessing how much of a risk this brings is another issue. How likely is this problem? The feedback on most forums suggests that it is not a major concern in actual practice.

Others have stated reasons for oral-only out of convenience, fear of needles, and facilitating quicker recovery after discontinuation.

OTOH, by choosing an oral-only cycle you are accepting the known risk of great hepatotoxicity to satisfy those reasons for avoiding injectables.

Due to the oral hepatotoxicity (primarily), most here won't entertain any discussion of oral-only cycle when this can be avoided with injectable cycles (with better results to boot).

However, some knowledgeable people are willing to entertain such a discussion. For example, @Bill Roberts always noted the limitations/risks of oral AAS cycles but accepted that some people would still choose this anyway. Having said that, he was not a fan of Oral Turinabol):

 
Fine, I'll bite.

Young man, turinabol is a performance-enhancing drug. It was developed to give athletes an edge in sports.

Most kids like you want to build substantial muscle on their first cycle.

I'm not invested in this saga to read every post you've made, but if hypertrophy is in fact your goal you will find a tbol only cycle to be a letdown.

Also, what I've read here so far makes me think you haven't mastered training and eating, both of which are essential to making the most of the drugs.

Best of luck in your endeavors.
 
Fine, I'll bite.

Young man, turinabol is a performance-enhancing drug. It was developed to give athletes an edge in sports.

Most kids like you want to build substantial muscle on their first cycle.

I'm not invested in this saga to read every post you've made, but if hypertrophy is in fact your goal you will find a tbol only cycle to be a letdown.

Also, what I've read here so far makes me think you haven't mastered training and eating, both of which are essential to making the most of the drugs.

Best of luck in your endeavors.
No, I'm not looking to build huge size right now. Rather, I prefer just a little bit more lean mass, not huge mass.
 
No, I'm not looking to build huge size right now. Rather, I prefer just a little bit more lean mass, not huge mass.
I think most of us wanted just a bit more and with that natural human nature of wanting even more and more came in.

Nothing wrong with that, I myself wanted to get just a bit bigger, muscular and leaner initially when I started. It was one cycle and then I will see. Next thing I know I'm blasting and cruising for the last 5 years. Though I pct'ed out of the first one properly, but it didn't take me any longer than 6 months to hop back on. Since then I have learned a lot for better or worse. Lower dosages and mostly cruise/trt works for me now. Moderation is the key to success.

P.S. it's not an advice for you to do the same, just something to think about.
 
If you're doing a tbol only cycle for 4-6 weeks (whatever reason it should has) you don't need a Test Base as Tbol is allready Chlorodehydromethyltest.

My first cycle (and I would never recommend) was oral only. In this case tbol for 5 weeks.

Check the history ot tbol in Germany. They used Tbol only for athletic performance (olympia).
 
Should my child use tbol to play tee ball? It's non suppressive and doesn't cause gyno. Also, if you don't answer the question in accordance with my preconceived notions, then your advice will be summarily dismissed and more tbol/tee ball posts will be made.
 
If turinabol suppresses natural testosterone production, should injectable testosterone be used during the T-bol cycle in an attempt to prevent T reduction ? If testosterone isn't used, what are the worst side effects that can happen, given the fact only testosterone will be lowered while the estrogen levels stay the same?

Assuming testosterone production is COMPLETELY shut down, this will also eliminate aromatization. And since turinabol doesn't aromatize, there will be nothing to be aromatized into estrogen. Besides osteoporosis, are there other dangerous side effects related to low estrogen?

Should I use injectable testosterone or oral clomiphene to keep the body stimulated to produce testosterone during a T-bol only cycle?

Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.
You are not educated enough to be playing around with this
 
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