Should testosterone be used during a T-bol cycle?

[ShredSeason]

How many posts about this topic are you going to make?

He’s your typical uneducated lazy “lifter” that can’t be bothered to learn enough on his own so that his questions are not completely retarded.

 

[lukiss96]

He’s your typical uneducated lazy “lifter” that can’t be bothered to learn enough on his own so that his questions are not completely retarded.

Exactly, because some of the newer generation guys and girls want everything hamded to them. They were born in 2000's or even worse 2010's and then grew up as a teenagers in the social media era. Now it's a norm for them to just google something they are interested in and they expect that their question will be answered in 1 minute with one sentence. They fail to realize that not everything google can answer and that you have to dig quite deep and invest lots of time to learn on some subjects. To them this is not what they're used to, they think the answer is simple and should be given to them. So when they are unable to to find it easy or if it's confusing, they just ask because like you said they're lazy and they are not used to research on their own.

 

[ShredSeason]

Exactly, because some of the newer generation guys and girls want everything hamded to them. They were born in 2000's or even worse 2010's and then grew up as a teenagers in the social media era. Now it's a norm for them to just google something they are interested in and they expect that their question will be answered in 1 minute with one sentence. They fail to realize that not everything google can answer and that you have to dig quite deep and invest lots of time to learn on some subjects. To them this is not what they're used to, they think the answer is simple and should be given to them. So when they are unable to to find it easy or if it's confusing, they just ask because like you said they're lazy and they are not used to research on their own.

And if you call them out on it, they’ll get defensive and throw a temper tantrum because no one ever disciplined them growing up.

 

[lukiss96]

And if you call them out on it, they’ll get defensive and throw a temper tantrum because no one ever disciplined them growing up.

Eaxctly, they never got a proper spanking.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Eaxctly, they never got a proper spanking.

You would love to do that, wouldnt you??

 

[G0ld]

You are not educated enough to be playing around with this

I have basic knowledge on steroids. I'm familiar with every side effect and risk related to the use of steroids, so it's not accurate to say I'm not educated enough if you assume I don't know what I'm about to do.

I'm not educated enough in the context that I don't know how to properly do a cycle and what exactly to do, not that I don't know the risks and I'm making uninformed decisions I will regret later.

I unlikely to ever be educated enough if everyone just says I'm not educated enough without explaining and showing my mistakes and correcting me.

 

[G0ld]

Exactly, because some of the newer generation guys and girls want everything hamded to them. They were born in 2000's or even worse 2010's and then grew up as a teenagers in the social media era. Now it's a norm for them to just google something they are interested in and they expect that their question will be answered in 1 minute with one sentence. They fail to realize that not everything google can answer and that you have to dig quite deep and invest lots of time to learn on some subjects. To them this is not what they're used to, they think the answer is simple and should be given to them. So when they are unable to to find it easy or if it's confusing, they just ask because like you said they're lazy and they are not used to research on their own.

I was born at the age of 0 in the year 2000. But no, I'm not based on the instant gratification principle and I can work hard to achieve a goal. Don't think of me as a braindead retard focused on instant gratification. That's definitely not the case.

I'm aimed at achieving a specific body physique that can't happen naturally. That's why I need steroids. I already stated what my end goal is.

And if you call them out on it, they’ll get defensive and throw a temper tantrum because no one ever disciplined them growing up.

This is not true. When someone points out my mistakes, I don't contradict them, admit my mistake, and learn the lession. Can you show me an example where someone tells me 2+2=4, but I claim it's not 4?

 

[UncleBuns]

Have you gotten blood work? If you really want to do this the right way, get baseline blood work. I would suggest having HCG on hand as well and a PCT. Start your oral only cycle and after three or four weeks get blood work again and you will see how suppressed you are. If your blood work is fine then you don't feel like death just carry on.

A better approach that will probably give good results is to do your T bol cycle and start pinning a solid dose of hcg at the same time, something like 2000 - 3000 units a week. That should keep any suppression at bay. Once cycle is done stop hcg and implement PCT drug to get lh and fsh back online. Still do blood work before, mid, and post PCT.

 

[DECLAN]

Exactly, because some of the newer generation guys and girls want everything hamded to them. They were born in 2000's or even worse 2010's and then grew up as a teenagers in the social media era. Now it's a norm for them to just google something they are interested in and they expect that their question will be answered in 1 minute with one sentence. They fail to realize that not everything google can answer and that you have to dig quite deep and invest lots of time to learn on some subjects. To them this is not what they're used to, they think the answer is simple and should be given to them. So when they are unable to to find it easy or if it's confusing, they just ask because like you said they're lazy and they are not used to research on their own.

Oh its the same 2 decades ago, boards were tattered with the same idiotic questions. It’s not about age or when they were born, lazy idiots are present in every generation.

This is akin to the dbol for first cycle posts from the 2000s. Same mentality, same age range.

 

[lukiss96]

Oh its the same 2 decades ago, boards were tattered with the same idiotic questions. It’s not about age or when they were born, lazy idiots are present in every generation.

This is akin to the dbol for first cycle posts from the 2000s. Same mentality, same age range.

Yeah, you're right. I just wanted to say that maybe older gen was less pussy. Everything is available right now, a few clicks away. Back then I think you guys had to rely on hearsay more and share information and knowledge. The internet wasn't so readily available. It's just too damn easy for better or worse. For us who know how to use it it's golden times, for them dumb kids it's not much use anyway.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

This is not true. When someone points out my mistakes, I don't contradict them, admit my mistake, and learn the lession. Can you show me an example where someone tells me 2+2=4, but I claim it's not 4?

I have basic knowledge on steroids. I'm familiar with every side effect and risk related to the use of steroids, so it's not accurate to say I'm not educated enough if you assume I don't know what I'm about to do.

I'm not educated enough in the context that I don't know how to properly do a cycle and what exactly to do, not that I don't know the risks and I'm making uninformed decisions I will regret later.

I unlikely to ever be educated enough if everyone just says I'm not educated enough without explaining and showing my mistakes and correcting me.

You ask for help and then you turn around and start correcting some of the smartest people here with why they are wrong.



This is your response



I dont know why you are here.

I am not going to even "Nerd rage" at you.

It is fine for people to learn, as we are all still learning. It seems like you have problems dealing with authority/educators despite asking for help. Which is something typically seen with teenagers.

 

[Ateam2023]

This guy is sure getting everyone in a turmoil lol a pack of wolves i say, i think im liking this forum everyone tries to help but this kid is to pigheaded to realize .... His bad imo

 

[DECLAN]

Yeah, you're right. I just wanted to say that maybe older gen was less pussy. Everything is available right now, a few clicks away. Back then I think you guys had to rely on hearsay more and share information and knowledge. The internet wasn't so readily available. It's just too damn easy for better or worse. For us who know how to use it it's golden times, for them dumb kids it's not much use anyway.

You are right, there shouldn’t be a reason to do dumb shit or even experiment with protocols are anecdotally proven to be less effective if you search it on the forum archives.

With all the data available, one would think the kids/newbies today will not succumb to the idiocy we did bqck then.

 

[BoloYang2023]

So i dont mean to sound like a dick but this guy or it is only asking about orals only all the time isnt there a point where legit we should just ignore said person i know its harm reduction so with that in mind. Dont do AAS take up eating and training properly for a couple of years consistently

 

[Spideog]

If turinabol suppresses natural testosterone production, should injectable testosterone be used during the T-bol cycle in an attempt to prevent T reduction ? If testosterone isn't used, what are the worst side effects that can happen, given the fact only testosterone will be lowered while the estrogen levels stay the same?

Assuming testosterone production is COMPLETELY shut down, this will also eliminate aromatization. And since turinabol doesn't aromatize, there will be nothing to be aromatized into estrogen. Besides osteoporosis, are there other dangerous side effects related to low estrogen?

Should I use injectable testosterone or oral clomiphene to keep the body stimulated to produce testosterone during a T-bol only cycle?

Tell me what exactly I should do for my cycle to be proper.

Yes use testosterone. Oral only cycles don’t go well.

 

[RomanMVP]

So i dont mean to sound like a dick but this guy or it is only asking about orals only all the time isnt there a point where legit we should just ignore said person i know its harm reduction so with that in mind. Dont do AAS take up eating and training properly for a couple of years consistently

Syntax and punctuation are not bad things to practice.

 

[RaddishPork]

No, I'm not looking to build huge size right now. Rather, I prefer just a little bit more lean mass, not huge mass.

This is always hilarious to me. People want to use steroids to gain a little bit of mass.
If your goal is to only gain a little mass, drink an extra protein shake every day.

Steroids are for people who want to get bigger and stronger than what would normally be possible. It honestly sounds like you're just new to the gym and being impatient. You've had dozens of people tell you the reality- you need testosterone in cycles. You can ask 100000 more times and you're going to get the same answers.

And if you refuse to listen, just take a fuckin tbol only cycle and enjoy your shutdown test and losing all your gains a month after you come off.