Shoulders lagging behind rest of physique.Need more size.

[Desibaba]

Overall for most of my time in bodybuilding i never really trained my delts as heavy or intensely as i could have.I did train them regularly but never as hard or heavy as i should have.Now its starting to show as they are lagging behind in terms of development compared to the rest of my physique.This is the workout regimen i am currently following. I do it about once every 4 days or so after my chest workout.Im using the DFHT style program. 3 sets of behind the neck presses.2 sets of Standing laterals and finally 2 sets of bent over laterals.That way i get one movement for the front delts,one for the side and one for the rear.I would do more presses but i have read they mostly hit just the front head of the delts.What changes should i make to add more size to bring my shoulders up to the rest of my physique?

 

[dzl66]

Overall for most of my time in bodybuilding i never really trained my delts as heavy or intensely as i could have.I did train them regularly but never as hard or heavy as i should have.Now its starting to show as they are lagging behind in terms of development compared to the rest of my physique.This is the workout regimen i am currently following. I do it about once every 4 days or so after my chest workout.Im using the DFHT style program. 3 sets of behind the neck presses.2 sets of Standing laterals and finally 2 sets of bent over laterals.That way i get one movement for the front delts,one for the side and one for the rear.I would do more presses but i have read they mostly hit just the front head of the delts.What changes should i make to add more size to bring my shoulders up to the rest of my physique?

I think the best overall excercise for shoulders are partial dumbell shoulder presses. By partial I mean stop the upward motion when the tri's start taking over and the arms are are begin to become extended.
This keeps the emphasis on the delts. It is a difficult movement at first but give it time and you will see results. Make sure you are in control of the weight and do the movement slowly.
good luck

 

[Desibaba]

I thought that barbells are better than it comes to straight up mass.I mean you spend a significant amount of energy just getting the damn things up there in the first place if you train without a partner.With a barbell you can just take the bar off the rack and press away.

 

[dzl66]

I thought that barbells are better than it comes to straight up mass.I mean you spend a significant amount of energy just getting the damn things up there in the first place if you train without a partner.With a barbell you can just take the bar off the rack and press away.

Yes you are right , it is a tough exercise altogether but hey this ain't golf. Sorry bro could'nt resist.
First get the bells on the top of your quads. Kick up with a leg to get it moving then do a cheat exaggerated hammer curl to get it in position.
I like dumbells cause there is more of a balancing factor there which recruits alot of fiber. Also each arm can move in it's own more natural way whereas with the barbell you are locked into a fixed plane or motion.
I used barbells exclusively for years then found myself gradually using dumbells more and more.
good luck

 

[Desibaba]

So what would be the ideal amount of reps n sets for all the exercises? What other exercises would be ideal? If any other bros could comment on this i would appreciate it.Thanks.

 

[Primo Max]

Check out this thread that I started a while back. Hogg and I talked about shoulder training. If you get nothing else from it, you should see that you need to be doing mainly some sort of overhead press and upright rows (or high pulls) as the meat of your shoulder work.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/12463

 

[Desibaba]

So what would be the ideal exercises,reps n sets to be done on a bi weekly basis if mass was the goal?

 

[Biggriz]

So what would be the ideal exercises,reps n sets to be done on a bi weekly basis if mass was the goal?

What rep/ set scheme are you using now? Training shoulders 2x per week or just once. Are you training shoulders in the same w/o as chest, following the chest exercises?

Are you "on" now or not?

Just give me a little info. and I'll give you lots!

 

[Desibaba]

Its supposed to be twice a week after my chest workout but to be honest with you because of school and work obligations that weeks usually tends be around 9 days or so.My current routine is 3 sets behind neck presses (5-7 reps).2 sets side laterals (8-10 reps).2 sets bend laterals (8-10 reps).And yes i am taking drugs right now.250 mgs test and 100 mgs tren Everyother day.Plan on being on for around 10 weeks or so depending on results n side effects.By the way if you are curious my chest routine is composed of a total of around 7 to 8 sets of mostly compound movements.I train chest than delts n then triceps in the same workout.

 

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

Well why not try this and see how it works for ya... Hit shoulders at the begining of your training week so your fresh from a few days rest.

I like to do this workout and it has been descent for me.

Dbell press:4sets@6-8 reps
upright rows:4sets@8-10 reps
cable lat raise:3 sets@10-12 reps
front raise:3 sets@ 10-12 reps

I do rear flys on occasion because I work them primarely on back day and I like to devote an off day to just training traps cause if you think about it I like to have all my energy when shrugging 315 for a few sets of 15 and then 100lb dbells for a few sets.

Works for me.

just my .02....

 

[Primo Max]

So what would be the ideal exercises,reps n sets to be done on a bi weekly basis if mass was the goal?

2 or 3 work sets is all I ever really care to do for anything, and that's following warmup sets. I like overhead pressing in the 4-8 rep range, but with rows I think you probably won't want to venture that low (form would probably suffer pretty bad). 8-12 reps should be fine. If I'm doing heavy overhead presses in a given training cycle, I don't do any other pressing beforehand, meaning I don't do it after a chest workout for example. Right now I do upright rows on my chest day because there is no residual fatigue from the chest workout, and I do heavy overhead pressing on a separate back/shoulder day.