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I could borrow some of my girls var cause she is about so start her first cycle and doesn't need much, but if 40 for 4 weeks will harden me up enough then that's all I care about. I don't need the strength gains just a dry look to help with the tren look too

Hmmm "borrow" a weeks worth of hers....5 at 40 sounds better. IMO.
 
She has 100 10mgs. 5 weeks would be better than 4 for the hardness and look?

Imo yes. Var is pretty mild. I'd take at least 1/2 from her, she'd still have 50 10's and at 5mg ED for 100 days is probably more than enough for her. It would give you an extra 12 days or so at 40.

I used var once back in 2001 or 2002 it was the famous tTokkyo brand that I got in Cancun from a hole in the wall Vet. I don't remember a whole lot, but I'm pretty sure than were 5mg (I think they only made 2.5 & 5mg ones) and I bought back around 500ct in a plastic baggie next to my nuts. Lol I do remember how nervous I was getting on and especially off the plane. Anyways I believe I used 20-25mg ED until they were gone and I'm pretty sure I weighed around 210 at that time.
 
Yeah I think she's going to run 6 weeks for her first cycle. 5mg first week 10mg the rest. So there would be plenty for me.
 
Arms/chest

50 chin-ups 5x10
Superset
50 dips 5x10

Preacher machine curls 3x10 last set is a drop set

Behind the head rope extension 3x10 last set is a drop

Standing alternating hammer curls 3x12

Rope pushdown 3x12

Inclune hammer strength 4x10

Pec deck 3x12

Leaning forward on dip machine 3x12

Finish with 30drag curls.

20 interval cardio

184.8
 
Should I visually be seing tren results soon? Im seeing an increase in vascularity but that could also be from being leaner im on week 3.
 
You should be seeing awesome pumps, vascularity, and strength increase IME. The train really starts rolling around week 4-5. Then you'll start seeing the crazy shit. I love that shit. Like it tightens your skin around everything. Daily changes really. . .
 
You should be seeing awesome pumps, vascularity, and strength increase IME. The train really starts rolling around week 4-5. Then you'll start seeing the crazy shit. I love that shit. Like it tightens your skin around everything. Daily changes really. . .

Lol I was hoping you would reply bc your use of words is way better than mine. Do you teach creative writing?? Lol

My experience has been the same @nfdeilvs. :) Then things kinda stall around week 9 or so. :(
 
Lol I was hoping you would reply bc your use of words is way better than mine. Do you teach creative writing?? Lol

My experience has been the same @nfdeilvs. :) Then things kinda stall around week 9 or so.
No. I teach trashy people how to cook shitty food, lol.

Agree on the drop off too. I was good for about ten. I see no point running it longer. Shit starts getting weird on me too. Way too long to run on 4 hours of sleep.
 
My pumps today were awesome. It is only 3 weeks so hopefully more soon. And good vascularity. Night sweats occasionally not much insomnia just waking up occasionally. Nothing as bad as last week.
 
Shitty leg day. Just had nothing in the tank. 225x10 275x3 5 sets

Leg extensions 2x25

Leg press 2x25

Hammy curl 3x10

24mins cardio 300 cals

184.0

Am I dropping weight to fast? Im at 1850 cals. My coach thinks I'm fine but I hate looking small. Only 176 carbs yesterday
 
Chest tris

Getting some strength increase even cutting

Flat BB 135x15 225x10 245x8 275x3x2

Dip machine 3x12

Inclune flies supersetted with close grip press: 3x12x12

Landmine press 3x10

Straight bar pushdown 3x12

Triangle bar overhead extension 3x12

300cals on cardio 25mins

183.4lbs
 
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I am bloating like crazy after every single meal. Do you think it's because I have the prop and test e in my system right now? Cause I know tren is supposed to not cause water retention.
 

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