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ArchimedesLever said:
I honestly cannot believe you are considering using DNP brother. Yikes....

I'd ask that you please reconsider, but I know you won't. But now my conscious is clear.

Just fucking do clen/T3 bro.
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Clen and t3 both have their risks too. Many would say riskier, so long as dosing and source considerations are well thought out. This, however, is not the place for heated discussion on the subject. It's always the same old circular ass ad hominem bullshit anyway. Either you nut up and try it, or you choose not to. Nothing wrong with either decision.

Very little of what we do is geared toward health. It's just a show. Sponsorships pay the bills, so let's all lie through our teeth about being paragons of clean living and healthy exercise. "No sir, I've never done drugs". . .
 
nfdeilvs said:
Show me information where running 250mg and taking the right precautions has caused serious harm. There's so many mixed reviews on running DNP been reading for like 6 hours straight and at low dose I see no problem for me besides some sides I can tolerate for a week. Not sure if this makes me sound ignorant but I cannot find harm in this to catch up for a show
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O rly??
 
tattedlegend said:
@nfdeilvs post a progress pic bro you've had a pretty good weight loss this far I'm wondering what you're lookin like. Also what weight r u trying to be on stage
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I'll post one as soon as my bloat goes down from my refeed day. And no idea about my weight. Couldnt care less what it is on stage as long as I look good.
 
nfdeilvs said:
Did you not read the post in front of yours? Clearly not. If you don't support my decision then fine get off my log. And saying Oh really proves anything how?

@D-Ballin said it great above this isn't the place for a heated argument on the matter
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Look dude...Its fucking poision. I don't care what you read, or what reviews, or people success ETC. As far as AAS (and all the compounds that typically accompany them) fucking DNP is BY FAR the most dangerous.

Fucking idiot gear heads LOVE to make 'anecdotal' fallacies all the time. "...oh yeah, thats all cool & what not, but trust me my grandma smoked like 30 cigarettes a day; and she lived until 100- so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of sound studies showing proven casual relationships."

They use this reasoning ALL THE TIME. Case in point @D-Ballin
"Clen & T3 both have their risks too..." and then with the added, throw-away, arbitrary comment to accompany "...many would say riskier.."

IT....IS....FUCKING....POISION....

This fact is indisputable.

Heres some reading of the subject:
2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP): A Weight Loss Agent with Significant Acute Toxicity and Risk of Death

Will you read? Probably not.
Do you care? Unlikely.

But your the type to only want to hear what you want to hear.

So because of that, you want me off your thread...No problem buddy. See you later
 
Talked it over with my coach and placed an order with Dinitro

On another note I still look like a whale from that refeed idk why my body hasn't started drying back out
 
That study is flawed in a few ways, btw. It's been brought up and shot down in every DNP thread ever created. And every time, no conclusion is reached.

40 of the 62 deaths were occupational exposure or suicide. All of the claims of internal damage come from overdose autopsies. And just for shits and giggles, crystalline DNP is actually weaker on a mg/mg basis than industrial powder.

No one ever said it was totally safe or healthy. It's a powerful drug. If you have to ask how to run it or where to find it, you have no business playing with it. But it's a tool in the box, and his competition is using.

Last post on the subject in this thread. You want to debate, dig up CBS's thread on it and fire that bitch up. I simply don't care that much to spoon feed the timid.

@nfdeilvs be cautious and meticulous. Print off a calendar, and mark every dosage by day before taking. Leave no margin for error on double dosing. And stay very hydrated, monitor that shit.

Fruit postworkout is your friend. Take it easy under the bar. High reps, just chase the pump that you aren't going to get. Lots of towels.
 
Arms/chest

Chinups dips superset 4x15

Barbell curls 3x10

Tricep rope down 3x10

Incline db curl 3x10

Dumbbells kickback 3x10

Hammer curls 7x10

Dumbbells extension 7x10

Flat machine press 3x10

Pec dec 3x12

30 cardio

184.4 finally a little less pregnant still holding water
 
Went shopping for my DNP diet

Meals as follows:
9am 3greek yogurts
Workout
1130am post workout shake, banana
130pm chicken breast veggies
4pm fiber one bar, 2tbs hummus carrots/celery
6pm chicken breast veggies
830pm chicken breast veggies
10pm 2tbs PB

2gallons of water

1600calories

208/132c/30f

How's that looking?
 
nfdeilvs said:
Went shopping for my DNP diet

Meals as follows:
9am 3greek yogurts
Workout
1130am post workout shake, banana
130pm chicken breast veggies
4pm fiber one bar, 2tbs hummus carrots/celery
6pm chicken breast veggies
830pm chicken breast veggies
10pm 2tbs PB

2gallons of water

1600calories

208/132c/30f

How's that looking?
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It's looking hungry. But I think you should be able to hold it for a week or so. If you can stay on it, you should hit or pass the lb/day mark. And the timeframe should keep catabolism to a minimum. The trick is being ready for the damn cravings, they are strong once you hit peak at 500. Which thankfully won't be long with this one.

I like it a lot better than the idea of ketosis. Coach think it's ok?
 
D-Ballin said:
It's looking hungry. But I think you should be able to hold it for a week or so. If you can stay on it, you should hit or pass the lb/day mark. And the timeframe should keep catabolism to a minimum. The trick is being ready for the damn cravings, they are strong once you hit peak at 500. Which thankfully won't be long with this one.

I like it a lot better than the idea of ketosis. Coach think it's ok?
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Yeah I sent it to him and he said that's good to go. I just gotta hold out for 8 days when I get it which should be soon cause I paid Dinitro for express shipping.
 
ArchimedesLever said:
Look dude...Its fucking poision. I don't care what you read, or what reviews, or people success ETC. As far as AAS (and all the compounds that typically accompany them) fucking DNP is BY FAR the most dangerous.

Fucking idiot gear heads LOVE to make 'anecdotal' fallacies all the time. "...oh yeah, thats all cool & what not, but trust me my grandma smoked like 30 cigarettes a day; and she lived until 100- so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of sound studies showing proven casual relationships."

They use this reasoning ALL THE TIME. Case in point @D-Ballin
"Clen & T3 both have their risks too..." and then with the added, throw-away, arbitrary comment to accompany "...many would say riskier.."

IT....IS....FUCKING....POISION....

This fact is indisputable.

Heres some reading of the subject:
2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP): A Weight Loss Agent with Significant Acute Toxicity and Risk of Death

Will you read? Probably not.
Do you care? Unlikely.

But your the type to only want to hear what you want to hear.

So because of that, you want me off your thread...No problem buddy. See you later
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Agreed. It's straight up poison.

It's a competiton that you may or may not do well in. And if you do well what do you really gain? If you're not making this your career and making a real living then there's just some drugs you shouldn't use. That's just my opinion.

Also some coaches take it way to serious. They don't give a fuck if you're body is poisoned or not. You're a week behind? Bro do some extra cardio and cut cals.

This is all my opinion from my experience but you're on stage for all of 2 mins and you might get a plastic trophy. Don't do the rich piana do whatever it takes attitude shit.

Again, all my opinion. But think about it and don't just jump on shit cause some coach said so.
 
lucabratzi said:
Agreed. It's straight up poison.

It's a competiton that you may or may not do well in. And if you do well what do you really gain? If you're not making this your career and making a real living then there's just some drugs you shouldn't use. That's just my opinion.

Also some coaches take it way to serious. They don't give a fuck if you're body is poisoned or not. You're a week behind? Bro do some extra cardio and cut cals.

This is all my opinion from my experience but you're on stage for all of 2 mins and you might get a plastic trophy. Don't do the rich piana do whatever it takes attitude shit.

Again, all my opinion. But think about it and don't just jump on shit cause some coach said so.
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Not having the DNP debate here there's w thread for that. Dosed right and correct precautions I will be fine.
 
Legs
Squats 135x15 225x10 245x8 275x5 275x5

Leg extension 3x30

Hammy 3x15

Could only do 10 of cardio did not feel good finishing the rest later.

181.2
 
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