JDawg528
New Member
Shutdown & HCG
Hey guys, I'm new to the forums so I apologize ahead of time for being a newb. I'm sure they're some links and already posted discussions regarding my topic but I wanted to run this out there to get insight from more experienced members and possible solutions. I've been educating myself throughout online forums and medical websites in hopes to assist my condition, if possible.
2.5 years ago I shut down via use of anavar. I was already running HGH, or what I think was HGH(I'll get to that later) at the time but not with any test. I was an inexperienced user and never was sat down or read up on any information regarding correct cycles, pairings, possible shutdown side effects or proper PCT etc...I'm sure many will remind me, use me or chastise me in these forums of what NOT to do in terms of use of steroids. Let's get passed that. I'm here for help and to save my future marriage with my current fiancé. For 2 years now it's been hell. No libido. Very few strong erections and an overall feeling like shit.
I made the mistake originally of going to TRT almost immediately following my shutdown to help with the sexual dysfunction and well being, again I didn't know what was involved regarding the whole process of shutdown and HPTA. It's been almost a full year and half now since I last did any steroid or drug. I've dabbled in supplements but they didn't seem to help much if only temporary. I would get a feeling of increased libido(albeit not anywhere close to what I would call normal) and then I would try to speed up the process with a supplement or two in hopes it would help but eventually I'd go back to square one for a bit and then slowly start over again towards feeling better. It feels like a roller-coaster of sorts, whenever I'd feel sexual enough I'd quickly go back to zero once I emptied out my balls. I'm lucky if sex happened once a month with my girl since shutdown.
I've been seeing an endo. My bloods on initial visit(April) were low test (325) and low LH signaling my problem was secondary. I have not had much testicular shrinkage until recently. After slow increased test levels and an overall better libido feeling(but not like my normal standard prior to steroid use) and a request on my part to impregnate my fiancé the endocrinologist has prescribed me HCG at 500ius twice per week. I am now on the 3rd week of shots and I feel just like I did 2.5 years ago and shutdown...only now I have ball shrinkage. This is perplexing to me because HCG is supposed to do the exact opposite? Am I wrong? I was under the impression that HCG "brings the boys back" and tricks the pituitary gland into producing LH to reproduce it's own natural testosterone. Why am I feeling like I'm shutting down again? Is my LH stopped temporarily because the HCG is in my system? After a small improvement of no drugs or anything in my system I feel like the HCG has brought me back down and feeling "low" again. No drive sexually but my strength and energy is still decent. Is this possible? Is my system perhaps so sensitive that anything I try May shock it and send me reeling back to the beginning again?
One thing I would like to bring to the attentions of members about my situation is the HGH use...again not being educated I have now learned that HGH is sometimes counterfeited as HCG ...what would happen if a person took HCG(thinking it was HGH) for he extended period of time (more than 2 years)??? When I was injecting the HGH I had increased strength but my orgasms were incredible. I'm not sure if HGH has done this for any other members. I guess in a nutshell what I am asking is: if let's say I was taking HCG then and thought it was HGH did I then shutdown my system with the help of the anavar and now my body will not recognize or desensitized itself from the HCG? Is it possible that I overstimulated my testes and there's no coming back from it or getting back to normal? Am I suffering from the negative feedback loop? Can Chlomid or anything else help the process to recovery or should I just sit back, watch my fiancé leave me in hopes that time will heal all wounds and my hpta will eventually reverse itself if not to prior levels but at least to a more functioning level?
I feel like the HCG is further shutting me down currently and reverting me back to where I was 2.5 years ago. How would anyone proceed? Should I stop immediately and look to another option(Chlomid)?
Hit me up with questions because again as a newb I'm sure I'm leaving out some information or I have confused some on this thread.
Your insights are greatly appreciated for someone trying to get back his health.
Hey guys, I'm new to the forums so I apologize ahead of time for being a newb. I'm sure they're some links and already posted discussions regarding my topic but I wanted to run this out there to get insight from more experienced members and possible solutions. I've been educating myself throughout online forums and medical websites in hopes to assist my condition, if possible.
2.5 years ago I shut down via use of anavar. I was already running HGH, or what I think was HGH(I'll get to that later) at the time but not with any test. I was an inexperienced user and never was sat down or read up on any information regarding correct cycles, pairings, possible shutdown side effects or proper PCT etc...I'm sure many will remind me, use me or chastise me in these forums of what NOT to do in terms of use of steroids. Let's get passed that. I'm here for help and to save my future marriage with my current fiancé. For 2 years now it's been hell. No libido. Very few strong erections and an overall feeling like shit.
I made the mistake originally of going to TRT almost immediately following my shutdown to help with the sexual dysfunction and well being, again I didn't know what was involved regarding the whole process of shutdown and HPTA. It's been almost a full year and half now since I last did any steroid or drug. I've dabbled in supplements but they didn't seem to help much if only temporary. I would get a feeling of increased libido(albeit not anywhere close to what I would call normal) and then I would try to speed up the process with a supplement or two in hopes it would help but eventually I'd go back to square one for a bit and then slowly start over again towards feeling better. It feels like a roller-coaster of sorts, whenever I'd feel sexual enough I'd quickly go back to zero once I emptied out my balls. I'm lucky if sex happened once a month with my girl since shutdown.
I've been seeing an endo. My bloods on initial visit(April) were low test (325) and low LH signaling my problem was secondary. I have not had much testicular shrinkage until recently. After slow increased test levels and an overall better libido feeling(but not like my normal standard prior to steroid use) and a request on my part to impregnate my fiancé the endocrinologist has prescribed me HCG at 500ius twice per week. I am now on the 3rd week of shots and I feel just like I did 2.5 years ago and shutdown...only now I have ball shrinkage. This is perplexing to me because HCG is supposed to do the exact opposite? Am I wrong? I was under the impression that HCG "brings the boys back" and tricks the pituitary gland into producing LH to reproduce it's own natural testosterone. Why am I feeling like I'm shutting down again? Is my LH stopped temporarily because the HCG is in my system? After a small improvement of no drugs or anything in my system I feel like the HCG has brought me back down and feeling "low" again. No drive sexually but my strength and energy is still decent. Is this possible? Is my system perhaps so sensitive that anything I try May shock it and send me reeling back to the beginning again?
One thing I would like to bring to the attentions of members about my situation is the HGH use...again not being educated I have now learned that HGH is sometimes counterfeited as HCG ...what would happen if a person took HCG(thinking it was HGH) for he extended period of time (more than 2 years)??? When I was injecting the HGH I had increased strength but my orgasms were incredible. I'm not sure if HGH has done this for any other members. I guess in a nutshell what I am asking is: if let's say I was taking HCG then and thought it was HGH did I then shutdown my system with the help of the anavar and now my body will not recognize or desensitized itself from the HCG? Is it possible that I overstimulated my testes and there's no coming back from it or getting back to normal? Am I suffering from the negative feedback loop? Can Chlomid or anything else help the process to recovery or should I just sit back, watch my fiancé leave me in hopes that time will heal all wounds and my hpta will eventually reverse itself if not to prior levels but at least to a more functioning level?
I feel like the HCG is further shutting me down currently and reverting me back to where I was 2.5 years ago. How would anyone proceed? Should I stop immediately and look to another option(Chlomid)?
Hit me up with questions because again as a newb I'm sure I'm leaving out some information or I have confused some on this thread.
Your insights are greatly appreciated for someone trying to get back his health.
