I get this, but what has fentanyl got to do with AAS?
Does it just so happen that these factories that are getting busted are still producing fentanyl along side AAS, HGH, Peps etc?
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Does it just so happen that these factories that are getting busted are still producing fentanyl along side AAS, HGH, Peps etc?
I'm still waiting for my January reta order from QSC to arrive. I suspect that chances of it arriving are about as high as the chances that Tracy was born a woman.
Photon
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HYB has suspended the China warehouse as of today.
Trailmixed
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Yes, many of them
Kralteramon
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Not planning on using them yet but testing for sure.
Juicedhead
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you took the time to type that but cant say if the gear is smooth? Your post is worthless maybe use that time to say something constructive. I gave my 2 cents the the gh in my post so wtf do you want me to do go back and read thru all the posts? Bro get the fuck out
Ghoul
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Nothing other than one is Schedule II Controlled, illegal drug, and the other is a Schedule III Controlled, illegal drug.
When the policy of the Communist Party is to stop pouring illegal drugs into countries whose trade you rely on and are currently charging hefty, multi billion $ tariffs as a penalty for doing so, the Chinese aren't going to make an exception for any of the ILLEGAL drugs being sold from their territory. They're going to stop them all.
Peptides aren't expressly illegal. They're a grey area. Companies in the US have been selling them for more than a decade , in the daylight, perfectly legally, by being very, very careful to walk the line and portray them as not for human use. rHGH is sort of illegal in the US, but not
like a scheduled drug, and not in many other places.
Peptides and rHGH aren't what's causing the problems China is trying to fix with these crackdowns, scheduled drugs and their precursors are.
Not that it matters. but imo what's triggered all this is the shipping companies getting caught with packs containing AAS, being hit with HUGE fines for trafficking illegal drugs, along with falsified customs paperwork, and ratting out the companies causing them this grief (SSA etc) to the Chinese authorities. These are multi billion dollar companies and have no interest in the profit from the tiny number of packs UGLs ship through them.
It's been pretty obvious from the anecdotal reports here oils and tabs have been getting seized at a higher rate than normal and requiring reships lately. Every one of these seizures is getting a lot of attention from customs now, instead of being blown off. The shipping companies are getting slammed, and shit rolls down hill back to whoever's been slipping them these packs. A very effective strategy CBP had said they were going to use for over a year now.
As far as "big pharma" etc, I thought this would play a part in it too. The FDA announced they would beef up enforcement of GLPs coming through mail processing centers. They would have to be the ones doing because GLPs (and other peptides) are not illegal drugs. CBP can't seize them like AAS. It's the FDA that has to do that based on violation of food and drug regulations rather than being illegal like scheduled drugs (AAS).
To my surprise the FDA hasn't really done much about GLPs coming from China. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because contrary to popular belief, the current admin isn't turning out to be much of a "friend" to big pharma. Quite the opposite in fact. And until they play ball, I think the government. is happy to let compounding pharmacies and Chinese knockoffs keep the pressure on Big Pharma by not becoming their enforcers.
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Spaceman Spiff
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You cant even look back at the last page to see the source is now MIA
you are a dumb fuck. thanks for proving my point.
Also ordered on 7th but got tracking next day. Thanks for sharing. Don't have anything yet
So hypothetically, in time, it may be the case that AAS, HGH, Peptide GLP APIs will never be produced and available to manufacturers to produce the finished products to supply to the "black market", and essentially every such API will be produced only for legitimate reasons and supplied only to verified pharma companies?
Kralteramon
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I have to agree with Spiff.
Never going to happen. China does not play fair, it's only managing the damage from drug trade under trump
AllGoodThings
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As a data point for those awaiting shipments, my domestic order from September 5th, placed through Micli, just arrived today.
wells14
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Make sure the test includes human sweat and excrement.
malomkarom
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There's a search function brother.
You also shouldn't order from anywhere, legal stuff included if you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes reading about it.
malomkarom
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*cries in European*
Ghoul
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I think the PED community far overestimates the value of this business to China. It's peanuts. The rounding error for 1 hour's worth of shoelace sales from China to the US.
When it's more trouble than it's worth to violate international law, as it may be now, they'll have no problem using their authoritarian system to stop it.
Other factors in play include Chinese intention to dominate the legitimate worldwide peptide/ biological drug market, including developing their unique new drugs. Part of that will require them to be seen as "responsible" by other countries, with a tightly regulated pharma industry not behaving like a third world shithole lawless drug slinging country like Venezuela, Mexico, etc
...and all this knockoff drug making has probably built a large supply of skilled scientists and techs who could easily shift into legit drug development and manufacturing.
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