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[Wizbang]

Tirz and Tesa contain antimicrobial excipient ingredients. Different ones in each case.

They only came to light because they weren't the excipients automatically removed from the purity calculation in Jano's tests, so they reduce the purity calculation until they were identified and removed from it.

But it makes you wonder which excipients are being seen in these compounds and automatically being removed from the purity calculation but not disclosed, Other than benign ingredients like mannitol.

The antimicrobial preservatives I mentioned shouldn't be in either Tirz or Tesa for various reasons.

that seems a bit worrisome.

 

[Ghoul]

that seems a bit worrisome.

Antimicrobials shouldn't be in lyophilized proteins. No pharma company would ever do that (nor would the FDA allow it). In multi dose vials to be reconstituted that's what BAC is for.

It may be common in UGL for all we know. These 2 in the SRY peptides only stood out because they were unusual and hadn't been previously identified. Again, some list of "common" excipients are seen in testing and their percentage is discounted so they don't lower the purity calculation, but their presence isn't disclosed.

 

[Wizbang]

Antimicrobials shouldn't be in lyophilized proteins. No pharma company would ever do that (nor would the FDA allow it). In multi dose vials to be reconstituted that's what BAC is for.

It may be common in UGL for all we know. These 2 in the SRY peptides only stood out because they were unusual and hadn't been previously identified. Again, some list of "common" excipients are seen in testing and their percentage is discounted so they don't lower the purity calculation, but their presence isn't disclosed.

Understood, the veil of ignorance has been lifted though so I feel like more testing is now warranted to find out more.

 

[Ghoul]

Understood, the veil of ignorance has been lifted though so I feel like more testing is now warranted to find out more.

It seems so obvious in hindsight. Excipients have always been present, yet didn't impact purity calculations. It wasn't a secret they were being seen and accounted for so they didn't reduce purity calculations. But *which* excipients have been incidentally masked in this process was never clear.

 

[HUGE McBIGLARGE]

Got another order. No issues as usual. It was for my mum and she’s happy with it lol

 

[Lilj888]

Pretty wild service. They messed up my original order and left a bpc out. I already received the replacement 5 days ago after receiving my peptides two weeks ago, but no update on my oils and tabs. It’s been almost a month. I have informed delivery I know when they ship stuff. The oils haven’t even shipped on there tracking site too. Then they want to ignore me cause I won’t pay for their mistake on sending me an extra bpc when they were replacing the bpc they already mistakenly left out on the first order. What’s up
With this shit @SigmaAudley China Peptide

 

[Cereal masturbator]

Got another order. No issues as usual. It was for my mum and she’s happy with it lol

Your mums on tren too ? We should start a club

 

[Cereal masturbator]

trened up mutant ninja milfs

 

[AlexDavis43]

Pretty wild service. They messed up my original order and left a bpc out. I already received the replacement 5 days ago after receiving my peptides two weeks ago, but no update on my oils and tabs. It’s been almost a month. I have informed delivery I know when they ship stuff. The oils haven’t even shipped on there tracking site too. Then they want to ignore me cause I won’t pay for their mistake on sending me an extra bpc when they were replacing the bpc they already mistakenly left out on the first order. What’s up
With this shit @SigmaAudley China Peptide

Everyone understands your argument ("I'm not paying for something I didn't order") but this has been discussed a couple times recently and a lot of members sided with 'you should pay' anyway.

 

[Lilj888]

Everyone understands your argument ("I'm not paying for something I didn't order") but this has been discussed a couple times recently and a lot of members sided with 'you should pay' anyway.

Only reason I’d pay is if they’re gonna hold my other stuff hostage. Otherwise not my job to pay for other ppls mistakes it’s there job to get it right - absurd logic

And they can easily take advantage of this to be shady and make more money

 

[AlexDavis43]

Only reason I’d pay is if they’re gonna hold my other stuff hostage. Otherwise not my job to pay for other ppls mistakes it’s there job to get it right - absurd logic

And they can easily take advantage of this to be shady and make more money

The hostage thing is a good argument, and also if you wanted to use them in the future (understandable if not due to this experience)

 

[oldgrey]

@SigmaAudley China Peptide Any chance of getting an Injectable YK-11?

 

[unclebob]

Sent payment 20 days ago, received parcel 1 of 2 two days ago and it was missing an item. 2nd half of order was " Returned to Sender" once it arrived in HK over a week ago and my rep doesn't seem to give a hoot.

Can't say I'm overly impressed with this source

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

you said peptides arent illegal. thats only in america rest of the world its illegal, steriods nor peptides aren't illegal in china, selling them is

you really are fucking dense.

If it was so easy, they wouldnt be sitting here losing money on sales they lost.

 

[hexagonal]

Everyone understands your argument ("I'm not paying for something I didn't order") but this has been discussed a couple times recently and a lot of members sided with 'you should pay' anyway.

I own a business. Sometimes I fuck up in favor of the customer. When this happens, I would never even dream of asking them to pay me back for my mistake or otherwise make it right. I've never worked anywhere that would, either.

I could understand a business going "Hey we screwed up, if you're going to use that, any chance you could pay for it? If not, no big deal, it was our mistake," even if I personally would never do that.

But telling a customer they have to do it? To me, that's a fundamental shift in attitude, especially when there is an implicit threat to not send them all the other stuff they paid for if you don't comply. How are we supposed to know that by paying up we're not encouraging that sort of behavior?

In a normal situation, on the customer end, if they give me a return shipping label and arrange pickup, I'm happy to send it back. Not in this sort of situation, and I'm sure going to push back way fucking hard on them trying to get me to pay up for their mistake, and if I get forced to pay because they're holding the rest of my shit hostage, I'm never purchasing from them ever again.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I own a business. Sometimes I fuck up in favor of the customer. When this happens, I would never even dream of asking them to pay me back for my mistake or otherwise make it right. I've never worked anywhere that would, either.

I could understand a business going "Hey we screwed up, if you're going to use that, any chance you could pay for it? If not, no big deal, it was our mistake," even if I personally would never do that.

But telling a customer they have to do it? To me, that's a fundamental shift in attitude, especially when there is an implicit threat to not send them all the other stuff they paid for if you don't comply. How are we supposed to know that by paying up we're not encouraging that sort of behavior?

In a normal situation, on the customer end, if they give me a return shipping label and arrange pickup, I'm happy to send it back. Not in this sort of situation, and I'm sure going to push back way fucking hard on them trying to get me to pay up for their mistake, and if I get forced to pay because they're holding the rest of my shit hostage, I'm never purchasing from them ever again.

This rebuttal was brought up in the other threads

A lot of Meso members still sided with 'you should pay'

 

[hexagonal]

This rebuttal was brought up in the other threads

A lot of Meso members still sided with 'you should pay'

Sure. I'm just arguing why I think they're taking the wrong side on it.

 

[SigmaAudley China Peptide]

Sent payment 20 days ago, received parcel 1 of 2 two days ago and it was missing an item. 2nd half of order was " Returned to Sender" once it arrived in HK over a week ago and my rep doesn't seem to give a hoot.

Can't say I'm overly impressed with this source

Please send me your order information and the salesperson by private message

 

[SigmaAudley China Peptide]

@SigmaAudley China Peptide Any chance of getting an Injectable YK-11?

Sorry, there is no production for the time being

 

[SigmaAudley China Peptide]

Pretty wild service. They messed up my original order and left a bpc out. I already received the replacement 5 days ago after receiving my peptides two weeks ago, but no update on my oils and tabs. It’s been almost a month. I have informed delivery I know when they ship stuff. The oils haven’t even shipped on there tracking site too. Then they want to ignore me cause I won’t pay for their mistake on sending me an extra bpc when they were replacing the bpc they already mistakenly left out on the first order. What’s up
With this shit @SigmaAudley China Peptide

The salesperson has promised to send you a bpc157 as a gift