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[Infernalmango]

Holy. Mine is only 285 from 4iu. What am I doing wrong?

Ya know I kind of thought my igf number was a little high compared to the dose. This is my first time on gh but I’m loving it thus far. Been running it since early June. My gh serum test with a 10iu IM dose was only like a 23 as well. So not outrageously high. Possibly just respond well to gh in general which would be dope. Planning to up it towards 6iu during my next growth phase to see how it treats me in a bulk.

 

[Ghoul]

I’d definitely recommend the cardio route before “prescribing” someone a GLP. But maybe I’m old fashioned. 10 minute walks after eating.

I mean if that worked of course. I do far more cardio than that daily and it doesn't put a dent in the insulin resistance caused by supraphysiologic GH. rHGH just overpowers lifestyle. I also think it's increasingly difficult to argue against the position that GLPs provide nothing but health upsides for the overwhelming majority, aside from appetite suppression, which may actually be the only unwanted effect from those seeking its other beneficial, health protective effects.

I think metformin has more going against it by comparison to regular use of a GLP, and its anti-inflammatory, insulin sensitizing, and beta cell protective properties.

 

[Ghoul]

Ya know I kind of thought my igf number was a little high compared to the dose. This is my first time on gh but I’m loving it thus far. Been running it since early June. My gh serum test with a 10iu IM dose was only like a 23 as well. So not outrageously high. Possibly just respond well to gh in general which would be dope. Planning to up it towards 6iu during my next growth phase to see how it treats me in a bulk.

That GH is at the very low end of the range. In clinics and studies it's closer to 45-70.

Combined with high IGF, what that low GH suggests is high levels of insulin. Insulin stimulates GH to IGF conversion. Do you monitor glucose or use a GLP?

 

[Infernalmango]

That GH is at the very low end of the range. In clinics and studies it's closer to 45-70.

Combined with high IGF, what that low GH suggests is high levels of insulin. Insulin stimulates GH to IGF conversion. Do you monitor glucose or use a GLP?

I check fasting glucose eod, and I’m on reta 6mg/wk.

Before starting gh my fasting blood glucose was low 80s. Since being on it I range from 85-92.

 

[Avies48]

Honestly, there's not going to be a diuretic in the GH. That's been a rumor for decades, before testing was available, and now that testing is common it's never been found.

It's like the carpal=contaminants thing. This is just what GH does. Some will be more sensitive than others. GH changes sodium retention balance and boosts eGFR (kidney filtration rate). Then it gets converted to IGF which stimulates local water retention around connective tissue (causing carpal).

So water distribution in the body can get all out of whack.

It often balances out after a month or so.

So u state there is not going to be a diuretic in hgh

Mannitol Overview​

Mannitol is classified as an osmotic diuretic. It is a type of sugar alcohol that helps the body eliminate excess water.

And thats in a bunch of hgh…

So please come again with this statement… not computing…

 

[Ghoul]

So u state there is not going to be a diuretic in hgh

Mannitol Overview​

Mannitol is classified as an osmotic diuretic. It is a type of sugar alcohol that helps the body eliminate excess water.

And thats in a bunch of hgh…

So please come again with this statement… not computing…

The absolute minimum dose of mannitol, that could have a diuretic effect is .2g/kg, delivered via IV. Lasts 3-6 hours.

220lb person that's 20g. This is considered a "test dose", before increasing to normal diuretic dose of .5g/kg, or 50g in this example.

If you packed mannitol up to the top of the 3ml vial, as hard as you could. it would fit 2g.

The puck in a 3ml vial contains, at most, .5g mannitol.

If a 36iu vial is 10 doses, that's .05g of mannitol per dose.

1/400th the minimum "test dose" for diuretic use.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Ya know I kind of thought my igf number was a little high compared to the dose. This is my first time on gh but I’m loving it thus far. Been running it since early June. My gh serum test with a 10iu IM dose was only like a 23 as well. So not outrageously high. Possibly just respond well to gh in general which would be dope. Planning to up it towards 6iu during my next growth phase to see how it treats me in a bulk.

The quick & dirty serum GH test is a reflection on the GH in your vial, not your response to GH

23 suggests it's either underdosed or you didn't get the timing right; high IGF1 compared to your baseline suggests you didn't get the timing right

 

[Pupil B]

So u state there is not going to be a diuretic in hgh

Mannitol Overview​

Mannitol is classified as an osmotic diuretic. It is a type of sugar alcohol that helps the body eliminate excess water.

And thats in a bunch of hgh…

So please come again with this statement… not computing…

Does it compute now like he explained already multiple times?

 

[Ghoul]

Does it compute now like he explained already multiple times?

@Avies48 is cool man, he wasn't being a dick and I don't mind being motivated to dig a little deeper into it than the general "not enough to be effective diuretic" info I had been working with.

Here, check this out. After I saw this, I started looking into rHGH's ability to rejuvenate the thymus gland and boost immune response. It's true, it does, measurably (how much depends on number of factors).

Takes a year.... but no doubt you regain some ability to create "naive" T-cells that go after pathogens your existing, tired T-cells won't.

Crazy to imagine what we don't know about all the effects of rHGH....


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/TUf5BUGd5a0

 

[Infernalmango]

The quick & dirty serum GH test is a reflection on the GH in your vial, not your response to GH

23 suggests it's either underdosed or you didn't get the timing right; high IGF1 compared to your baseline suggests you didn't get the timing right

Iv seen most ppl say test like 1ish hours after injection for serum test but the vendor I was getting the credit from required 3hrs post injection testing.

My baseline igf numbers before ever using gh was 274, then 480 after using 3iu before bed.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Iv seen most ppl say test like 1ish hours after injection for serum test but the vendor I was getting the credit from required 3hrs post injection testing.

My baseline igf numbers before ever using gh was 274, then 480 after using 3iu before bed.

2-3 hours is where you'd typically see 30-40 on the serum GH test, but your IGF1 suggests it's good GH so who cares

 

[Infernalmango]

2-3 hours is where you'd typically see 30-40 on the serum GH test, but your IGF1 suggests it's good GH so who cares

Kind of what I thought too

 

[Avies48]

@Avies48 is cool man, he wasn't being a dick and I don't mind being motivated to dig a little deeper into it than the general "not enough to be effective diuretic" info I had been working with.

Here, check this out. After I saw this, I started looking into rHGH's ability to rejuvenate the thymus gland and boost immune response. It's true, it does, measurably (how much depends on number of factors).

Takes a year.... but no doubt you regain some ability to create "naive" T-cells that go after pathogens your existing, tired T-cells won't.

Crazy to imagine what we don't know about all the effects of rHGH....


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/TUf5BUGd5a0

Thanks man yeah i just bring it up because most do not know it is a diuretic and can cause peeing a ton… now if we knew exactly how much of each group put into their gh, then we might be able to pin point the cuases…

 

[Stealth500]

Crazy to imagine what we don't know about all the effects of rHGH....

People are to quick to jump into protocols without fully understanding the necessary precautions to avoid adverse effects.

Taking one drug to get a desired effect causes one negative effect that was overlooked and when neglected can cause a chain reaction within the body.

If it isn't broke don't fix it kind of thing. Break pads go, if you dont fix, next it's the rotors then the calipers...

 

[Avies48]

IF ur pissing yourself to death it could be a sign of diabeetus, or actually fluid retention… use a diuretic… small dose to watch it all go out at once haha

Potential Effects on Urination​

HGH can influence urination in several ways:

• Increased Urination: Some individuals may experience increased urination as a side effect of HGH therapy. This can be due to fluid retention, which may lead to more frequent trips to the bathroom.
• Diabetes Insipidus: In rare cases, HGH can affect the balance of fluids in the body, potentially leading to a condition called diabetes insipidus. This condition is characterized by excessive urination and extreme thirst.

 

[readalot]

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Can we get a tren e and tren a color check please. Side by side.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Can we get a tren e and tren a color check please. Side by side.

I'm not a photographer or display engineer, but how much can you tell from colors you see in random jpegs taken on unknown equipment in uncontrolled lighting conditions?

 

[readalot]

I'm not a photographer or display engineer, but how much can you tell from colors you see in random jpegs taken on unknown equipment in uncontrolled lighting conditions?

Bare with me. But good point. Please provide picture with reference white background if possible.

Or we can just ask about their raws color and brew temp. You want to handle those?

 

[AllGoodThings]

Bare with me. But good point. Please provide picture with reference white background if possible.

I've thought about this one but most modern phones have a "pro" setting that allows control of the white balance. A white background with a set white balance would give us some comparable pictures, but then screen/display settings are also a factor/variable.

 

[readalot]

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