Ghoul
Well-known Member
Pro-tip
Insurance covers them if "symptomatic". "Doctor, these get rubbed by my skin/clothes when working out and end up hurting".
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Skin tags and HGH
- Thread starter MA11
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Pro-tip
Insurance covers them if "symptomatic". "Doctor, these get rubbed by my skin/clothes when working out and end up hurting".
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
YOLO ,,, , Only way to know "HOW YOU REACT" is to give it a go, start slow "or you'll know" ,,,,,
Be. Very careful with HGH. Even low dose can cause insulin resistance for quite a long time during the day.
I’m T2D and after I take growth I have near total resistance to insulin , which I inject anyway. Like if I need to clear 100g of carbs I may need 15-20 units of Humalog , minimum , and even then it will take 60-90 minutes for my Bg to budge.
i have this effect even within 10 hours of injecting HGH so I’ve stopped doing pre workout injections. I do them early evening after i am finished w carbs for the day and try to give myself at least 12 hours before eating carbs. Especially anything more than 10g
Insurance won’t cover it for you but Dexcom sells no rx version of CGM that you can use. Or you can still ask ur doc for a Dexcom RX and use good Rx to get the sensors. The Rx versions update every 5min and non Rx I think are every 15min. Can’t recall what other differences are.
// edit. For Dexcom I’m speaking from US consumer side , if u live outside the US check prices there. The g7 , rx version , is good if you have an apple
Watch because the Bluetooth syncs directly to the watch so you don’t have to have your phone with you ,
Unlike prior versions.
I’m T2D and after I take growth I have near total resistance to insulin , which I inject anyway. Like if I need to clear 100g of carbs I may need 15-20 units of Humalog , minimum , and even then it will take 60-90 minutes for my Bg to budge.
i have this effect even within 10 hours of injecting HGH so I’ve stopped doing pre workout injections. I do them early evening after i am finished w carbs for the day and try to give myself at least 12 hours before eating carbs. Especially anything more than 10g
Insurance won’t cover it for you but Dexcom sells no rx version of CGM that you can use. Or you can still ask ur doc for a Dexcom RX and use good Rx to get the sensors. The Rx versions update every 5min and non Rx I think are every 15min. Can’t recall what other differences are.
// edit. For Dexcom I’m speaking from US consumer side , if u live outside the US check prices there. The g7 , rx version , is good if you have an apple
Watch because the Bluetooth syncs directly to the watch so you don’t have to have your phone with you ,
Unlike prior versions.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
In human studies. Tesamoralin has been shown to boost GH without worsening insulin resistance in T2 diabetics, fyi. So that's one option.
Another option for non-diabetics would be, a GLP while using HGH would likely help prevent the insulin sensitivity and glucose control problems.
songsofpyramids
Well-known Member
I think this is likely the safest way to do hgh if worried about blood glucose. It’s also basically the best recomp combo I’ve ever seen. My girl has made insane progress in 2 months on hgh and sema.
Lil_swole87
New Member
Whats sema. Or GLP be enough to keep the glucose low so I wasn't get the the sides of hgh 1st time using it Plus I take insulin now but not much novo r from Walmart there brand any advice guys to help metformin and there's something else starts with a b can't think of it
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Semaglutide (Ozempic/GLP).
You can minimize hgh sides by reconstituting it properly with pharma grade BAC water, filtering it, and keeping the dose reasonable.
MA11
Member
I can't tell honestly.
My first encounter with HGH was horrible. Took 0.5 IU UGL HGU and felt like crap/feverish.
Next day I took pharma HGH and thought I need to dump that UGL but I felt shitty again from 0.5 IU.
From day three it has been smooth. I quickly got up to 2.5 IU for a few months with no bad side effects. Maybe some sensitive nipples from time to time.
My guess that the combination of HGH and statins is too much fory body. Unfortunately I am not 100% sure.
MA11
Member
Ghoul
Well-known Member
As long as the dose is below the "weight homeostasis" threshold, there's no impact on appetite or digestion, but the insulin sensitivity benefits continue. If that weren't the case, people who've been using Ozempic for years would all be sticks.
MA11
Member
Nice. I have to read up on that.
So, for example, 3 IU HGH daily and 0.5 mg semaglutide weekly might be a sustainable long term dose?
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Everyone's different, All I can tell you is at a low enough dose, there's no appetite suppression effect, As long as it's .25mg for Sema, an effective dose for diabetes, you should be ok insulin sensitivity and blood glucose wise.
Rarely though, .25 mg Sema still induces appetite suppression. If you go with Tirz, the minimum diabetes effective dose is 2.4mg, and much less likely to induce appetite suppression at that level, while still providing the insulin/BG effects you're seeking.
Both are not only sustainable, but intended and best used indefinitely. A rarity among pharmaceuticals, there's nothing but health benefits to GLP/GIP hormone supplementation. (with very rare exceptions).
MA11
Member
songsofpyramids
Well-known Member
There are a few users here with logs using sema and tirz to bulk to great effect. I plan on using .25mg sema with 5-6iu hgh on my next bulk to check out what all the fuss is about and when my time allows for more focus on training.
My girl’s cut with hgh and sema is wild. Only at .5mg and 4iu and she’s melting fat like wild, even while on bc which hampers hgh impact in women.
My girl’s cut with hgh and sema is wild. Only at .5mg and 4iu and she’s melting fat like wild, even while on bc which hampers hgh impact in women.
sneak007
New Member
I cut them off myself with surgical scissors, my dude. Get em while they're small is best.
Uncle Bub
New Member
I've got quite a few skins tags myself right now. I feel like the last time I was in great shape (about 7 years ago) I didn't have them. But since then once I kinda let myself go and get very fat and out of shape I noticed they started popping up. Some on my neck and under my arm pits.
I have some HGH coming soon that I plan to start using, but I got my tags without ever having taken it before. I just assumed they happened cuz I got fat. Now that I'm getting in much better shape (down 65lbs since May) I should probably get them removed.
I have some HGH coming soon that I plan to start using, but I got my tags without ever having taken it before. I just assumed they happened cuz I got fat. Now that I'm getting in much better shape (down 65lbs since May) I should probably get them removed.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
it's easy. They can freeze 20 of them in 5 minutes at the derms office. Takes a few days for them to turn black and fall off.
MA11
Member
Got the test results today and you guys were right.
Blood work after a 12 h fast:
Glucose 86 mg/dl
Insulin 11.4 mU/l
HbA1c 5.1
HOMA index 2.42
HOMA-IR values between 0.5 and 1.4 are considered normal, ≥1.9 are indicative of early IR, and ≥2.9 indicate IR
I've been off HGH for 3 weeks already so this value was probably worse.
Above I said that my cholesterol has been bad all my life because I remember my doctors telling me this. Now I looked up my old blood work and LDL-C was in the 90s. HDL-C was (sometimes) in the 40s and that was what they complained about. Not so bad imo.
My first really high LDL-C value was in 2019 being 152.
Two things changed. I got older (surprise!) and my body fat is now higher at probably 18-20%
Back then I was between 8-15% for many years.
So I have mild insulin resistance and garbage lipids. It's time to reorganize and cut some fat.
My blood pressure of 135/75 would appreciate that too.
Btw:
Male, early 40s, 191 cm (6'3") and 105 kg (230 lb)
Anyone here who got his HOMA index measured while running HGH? I'm really curious.
Blood work after a 12 h fast:
Glucose 86 mg/dl
Insulin 11.4 mU/l
HbA1c 5.1
HOMA index 2.42
HOMA-IR values between 0.5 and 1.4 are considered normal, ≥1.9 are indicative of early IR, and ≥2.9 indicate IR
I've been off HGH for 3 weeks already so this value was probably worse.
Above I said that my cholesterol has been bad all my life because I remember my doctors telling me this. Now I looked up my old blood work and LDL-C was in the 90s. HDL-C was (sometimes) in the 40s and that was what they complained about. Not so bad imo.
My first really high LDL-C value was in 2019 being 152.
Two things changed. I got older (surprise!) and my body fat is now higher at probably 18-20%
Back then I was between 8-15% for many years.
So I have mild insulin resistance and garbage lipids. It's time to reorganize and cut some fat.
My blood pressure of 135/75 would appreciate that too.
Btw:
Male, early 40s, 191 cm (6'3") and 105 kg (230 lb)
Anyone here who got his HOMA index measured while running HGH? I'm really curious.
sinistral
Member
Glad you followed through and got the fasting insulin test. This is typically where the doctors would fail you. They'd see a fasting glucose of 86 and A1c 5.1 and call it good.
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