Snorting test/tren base

Why use tren instead of test? is it just because of the rapid testosterone dose/response stagnation or some other reason?

What dosage do you plan to apply? I'm thinking of trying something like 100mg in trandermal myself, which should give uptake of up to 50mg per day.

I just wrote earlier today I'm not going to "apply" it, I will take it sublingually.

Most likely 1 gram test base / day sublingually, and maybe 100mg tren base / day sublingually to start.
 
Don't really care about atrophy.

Looks like most Tren sides are either due to the guaiacol or insane BA quantities used to dissolve it that lead to gasping syndrome.
Tren base users that take one dose in the morning report sleeping fine at night.

If I can get the mental and sex drives without the sleep or sweat issues I'm golden.
BA doesn’t dissolve anything lol either way the side effects aren’t solely based on solvents..
 
BA doesn’t dissolve anything

Say that again ?

BA is one of the strongest solvents you can possibly find.
To give you an idea, 1ml of pure ethanol will dissolve 160mg of testosterone base.
1ml of BA will dissolve 590mg of testosterone base.

Any hormone you can't dissolve in DMSO or ethanol such as test ace or tren ace, BA will make the crystals vanish in a matter of seconds.
 
there is a commercial nasal product... castor oil and test. it works obv and lasts, use 2-3X a day as lasts 3-4 hrs...just funny when people jump down peoples throats when its very much a thing and works.. some folks even prefer it to other delivery of test.. also has benefits because of its shorter half life.
 
there is a commercial nasal product... castor oil and test. it works obv and lasts, use 2-3X a day as lasts 3-4 hrs...just funny when people jump down peoples throats when its very much a thing and works.. some folks even prefer it to other delivery of test.. also has benefits because of its shorter half life.
Natesto.

It is a 4.5% testosterone gel for intranasal delivery in solution with castor oil, oleoyl polyoxylglycerides, and colloidal silicon dioxide.

Quite different from:
Why don’t people snort testosterone or trenbolone base (IE with no attached ester)?

Seems that injecting a suspension comes with PIP and infection risk, and dissolving it in oil requires unpleasant solvents that you don’t really want in your body.

So chop it up and rail a line?
 
Why don’t people snort testosterone or trenbolone base (IE with no attached ester)?

Seems that injecting a suspension comes with PIP and infection risk, and dissolving it in oil requires unpleasant solvents that you don’t really want in your body.

So chop it up and rail a line?
I have often thought of this, but I fucked up my sinuses with
Cocaine . Let us know how it goes.
 
Natesto.

It is a 4.5% testosterone gel for intranasal delivery in solution with castor oil, oleoyl polyoxylglycerides, and colloidal silicon dioxide.

Quite different from:
Colloidal silicone dioxide is finely ground sand, right? I think I’d prefer to rail a line.
 
Colloidal silicone dioxide is finely ground sand, right? I think I’d prefer to rail a line.
The shit that's added to make it into a gel basically enhance lipophilicity, emulsify and increase solubility, and enhance flow. To analogize, versus snorting raw hormone powder, applying this Natesto gel would be like taking a holiday to Ibiza versus to Somalia from where I sit.

I still know you're trolling, but if you wanted to actually do this, you'd be better off doing whatever it is that the cartels do to make cocaine something that can be insufflated which involves solvents - probably turpentine and shit like that. But hey, bro, turpentine is distilled resin harvested from trees, so it's natural! Colloidal polyoxyhexagonals sound man-made, has to be terrible for ya, unlike trenbolone base.
 
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Natesto gel would be like taking a holiday to Ibiza versus to Somalia
I had you down as the sort of person who was more into data and evidence, than appeals to the status quo?

Fact is neither you or I know whether raw test (or tren) base would be fucking rough on the sinuses, or smooth as a baby’s arse. Unless you know of an experience report I haven’t come across?

What I’m getting at is just because nobody’s thought of doing it, doesn’t make it a stupid idea. Natesto needs to be marketed so it has to be some sort of patentable concoction, but it’s essentially snorting test base. Unless the excipients change the pharmacokinetics considerably?
 
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lol I guess I engage in things more in good faith way. ie snorting yes u can, just put in oil little polysorbate/tween 20 and put inside your nose like snuff vs snorting raws would be 100% fine... since its lipophilic its not GREAT to snort and better off just placing under tongue.

but if snorting = nasal absorption, yes it is a thing... folks seem to forget people snort all kinds of insoluble things ie filler in pills.

in fact if can dissolve in glycerine u could also make a nice nasal spray... I think actually a vendor sells such a thing here...

if hell bent on snorting could also prob make an alcohol solution with a little oil and mix with lecithin and let dry prob work just fine ;)
 
I had you down as the sort of person who was more into data and evidence, than appeals to the status quo?

Fact is neither you or I know whether raw test (or tren) base would be fucking rough on the sinuses, or smooth as a baby’s arse. Unless you know of an experience report I haven’t come across?

What I’m getting at is just because nobody’s thought of doing it, doesn’t make it a stupid idea. Natesto needs to be marketed so it has to be some sort of patentable concoction, but it’s essentially snorting test base. Unless the excipients change the pharmacokinetics considerably?
I thought I was just jestfully shooting the shit with you, but I guess you really are not trolling. I'm surprised by this.

I can take an educated guess here that it'd be fucking rough on the sinuses based on chemical composition (and a touch of common sense) that you seem to think I'm both ignoring while at the same time is insufficient without having personal experience actually snorting fucking hormone powder.

The excipients do change the pharmacokinetics considerably. It's 95.5% gel containing the excipients I already described, what do you think, it's a Big Pharma conspiracy to deceive us from more simply just railing our Chinese raw powder, you crazy bastard?
 
Nah. I’m no conspiracy theorist mate. But you can’t patent lines of test base can you?
You might not believe that you are or want to be identified as a conspiracist, but you are.

If the profit motive and patent system are the only motivations for "Big Pharma" to bring drugs to market, then please explain the existence of Regular Insulin ("bioidentical" human insulin). Regular Insulin is sold today as Actrapid, HumuLin R, Insuman Rapid & NovoLin R.

Since those exist, why wouldn't "Big Pharma" dump bags of hormone onto the market for people to snort? Is it, perhaps, because it is neither effective nor tolerable?
 
Why don’t people snort testosterone or trenbolone base (IE with no attached ester)?

Seems that injecting a suspension comes with PIP and infection risk, and dissolving it in oil requires unpleasant solvents that you don’t really want in your body.

So chop it up and rail a line?
Lmao are you joking ?
 
I use this nasal spray kit for nootropic peptides. I wouldn't use it for anabolics but it might work if you really wanted to try it:

 
Inhaled aerosols have also been evaluated as a means of delivery… inhaled gear. It been done with a cool device that’s essentially a controlled version of an asthma nebulizer, called an AERX. Not awful, not spectacular.
 
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