Some advice on training with shoulder pain

[oldjuice]

I am just getting back into BB and lifting after about 4 or so years off. Im about 6 weeks in and starting to get shoulder pain in my right shoulder during vertical flat and some incline presses. I'm trying to not to have to interrupt training because I am just getting to see results ands am pissed. I was thinking of using some incline dumbbell work witch seems to bother it less, and dumbbell pullovers, maybe some dips if they don't hurt. Any advice? Im also starting to review the scapula rotation and shoulder PT I remembered helped somewhat years ago.
Any advice other then that? What sup's currently are people getting joint relief from? I was going to do glucosamine and chondroitin but don't know the current efficacy opinions. Thanks

 

[afcceltic00]

I used to have that problem. Dropped the weight a little and concentrate d on form and it really helped. Also warm up well.

Other then that, if it's serious, think about getting it checked?

And I just use CL orange triad, has joint supp in it, then fish oil

 

[Voltrader]

Do not push to hard. Start light let your stabilizers get used to pushing weight again. I have shoulder problems and I decided to really build all the muscles around my shoulder that has really helped out. I still have my occasional flare up especially on heavy days but it has been a whole lot smoother since I really built up my shoulders.

 

[azazul]

I have the same thing in my left shoulder, warm up for a long time on shoulder.
Glucosamine helps me.
Deca was awsome on it, but once it left my system the pain was there again.

Avoid wide grip when using flat or incline barbell press, it will add more stress to your shoulder.
Probably the reason you are not having an issue with the dumbells.

 

[walktheline]

have a right shoulder injury my self stay away from shoulders for a while built up all my stablizers then went back to bench press was through the roof ened up being a good thing

 

[oldjuice]

thanks guys for the advice. was thinking along those lines and actually started looking up scapula rotation stretching and other shoulder stabilization stuff. they are more physical therapy stuff though. Anyone care to elaborate on specific regimen to build strength in shoulder support muscles? Funny thing is I get less pain with shoulder press movements then flat bench!
I know I need to drop weight and really go light on chest, I feel like I have a fucking learning disability though. Even when I go somewhat easy I still wind up going heavier then I should!

 

[oldjuice]

by the way, anyone else benefit from glucosamine/condroitine ?

 

[illuminatty]

I would do some rotary cuff exercises and introduce lightly into heavier weights.

Careful brother

 

[oldjuice]

I know, I have been visualizing my next chest workout and it being ultra slow and controlled low weight, 12-15 reps benching. why does that seem to make my vagina grow? lol
it is what it is I guess and I will experiment with some lifts I remember having luck with while this bothered me before. I think declines and pull overs plus dumbbell presses should get me a decent activation of pecs.
HEY ANYONE use that peptide that supposedly helps with joints and cartilage?
I know deca helps but I am thing to wait 4 - 6 months and evaluate what I want to do in terms of AAS........... But a peptide cycle, now theres no harm in jumping on one of those right away....specially if I can justify it with some shoulder healing.. HMMMMM?
So I know this is in wrong area, but for joint repair, what is the feedback on peptides??

 

[BigShadow]

I have the same thing in my left shoulder, warm up for a long time on shoulder.
Glucosamine helps me.
Deca was awsome on it, but once it left my system the pain was there again.

Avoid wide grip when using flat or incline barbell press, it will add more stress to your shoulder.
Probably the reason you are not having an issue with the dumbells.

All of this advice is spot on. Only thing I can add is either totally forget using barbells at all for any pressing movements or keep your Rom very short. Wouldnt take your tri's past parallel and use lighter weight. Pump lots of blood in there and def supplement glucosamine.

 

[ApeShitFuckJacked]

Pull overs are mainly a lat exercise?

 

[BigShadow]

Pull overs are mainly a lat exercise?

Yes, Arnold always said they were good for expanding the rib cage as well. There is a trick to.doing pullovers though and really isolating your lats.

 

[Demondosage]

I've been there myself, here is what you need to do....machine presses such as hammer strength machines or nautilus machines while keeping your grip closer and elbows closer to the ribs on the movement, also try doing 3/4 reps and stopping about 6-8 inches before lockout, it'll keep tension on your chest and take delts out of the movement. Focus on slower reps and use lighter weights, make those lighter weights feel harder through more squeeze and stricter reps

 

[swole4ever]

I guess I can offer a little advice here since I am always having shoulder issues due to hurting my rotators.

Do rotator cuff exercises at least twice a week, I used to do them three times a week, only use cables because of constant tension. Do not use free weights for these exercises. You will have to google the exercises because I don't know how to explain the movement, there are only two movements by the way. It will take a while for your rotators to strengthen so be patient, use light weight like 10-15lbs or less to start and go for about 10-12 reps.

While you are working your rotators to become strong be very aware of how you are doing exercises. Most people perform the exercises very wrong. Lets say you are doing a shoulder press, only work the shoulder and not the triceps too. Pay attention to how the pros do their movements, pay careful attention. Those are not half reps they are doing, they are working the muscle directly and not the surrounding muscles.... pay close attention.

Found some pics, This one go to the bottom of the page and perform the external rotation exercise with the cable. About OA: Southern Maine orthopedic specialists for foot pain, ankle pain, hand pain, shoulder pain, back pain, bone fractures, MRI, physical therapy, and sports medicine.

This one you will perform the first exercise on the middle of the page.

Preventing Swimmer’s Shoulder

I couldn't find the exact image, let me see if I can explain. Drop the pulleys to the ground, grab the handle and stand up, move your arm into position of the finish movement in the picture then move it up. In other words you are doing the exercise in reverse. It looks like you are doing a biceps shot but your fist will be in front of you grasping the cable, then you move the cable upwards like you are doing a biceps shot. Don't know if I explained it correctly.