Some Test E on the market is off

[Sera]

i think something is seriously wrong with raws and oils coming out of china but i dont have a definite answer yet.

best possible solution will be to run bloodwork on multiple people that went from pharma to china. dosent have to be fancy with testing raws bloodwork will speak for itself.

i have dm'd readalot with details of the test object and hope its ok i put vote up for it in the test thread

But then the test c raws I bought (that tested to have some of these degradation products) feel basically fine, so not sure what to make of it.

 

[dinfar1337]

But then the test c raws I bought (that tested to have some of these degradation products) feel basically fine, so not sure what to make of it.

maybe i have to get opinions from more homebrewers.

i have enough testosterone for 10 years from domestic ugls in europe and china so i have homebrewed like 5 testosterone vials on my shelf and im not planning to use it yet or brew more of it until prices become more reasonable.

i have 10 years to monitor changes in the raw market.

you might be spot on its isolated to the solvents in china oil and not the degradation products in the raw itself. but something is 100% wrong with china oils

 

[readalot]

hope its ok i put vote up for it in the test thread

Always ok to pitch projects in there. Thanks for taking the time!

 

[BigTomJ]

the worst thing is his suspiscion could be very legit with compounds thats recently found in gcms with raws but no way to confirm.

very poorly handled from the dude just throwing it away. could be nice to do hplc&gcms on both test e ugl he is running and pharma and comparing one for 6 weeks and another one 6 weeks bloodwork.

There's literally nothing that it could be "contaminated" with that would cause high e2 other than literal estradiol cypionate.

 

[Zc7219]

There's literally nothing that it could be "contaminated" with that would cause high e2 other than literal estradiol cypionate.

Wouldn’t even bother. They need a new ghost to chase.

 

[dinfar1337]

There's literally nothing that it could be "contaminated" with that would cause high e2 other than literal estradiol cypionate.

thanks for the insights.

the other guy i just choose to ignore because i believe he isnt using his brain.

i came to the conclusion few hours ago testosterone may oxidize, reduce or cleave but not get degradation products into any estrogens but inactive or neutral fragments instead with andro skeleton shouldn't be any problem.

if anything went wrong we would have seen it in probably hplc already that it was gotten that bad with hplc alone.

so dropped the project too soon since im lazy and its probably just me and a mix of bad solvents.

if the fragments are harmful is another question for another day

 

[dinfar1337]

There's literally nothing that it could be "contaminated" with that would cause high e2 other than literal estradiol cypionate.

what if i test it for estradiol enanthate instead? you think that will give me any results bro