little charlie
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the purpose of this post is to entertain and share some of my limited knowledge about and experiences with dnp.
first of all, who am i? i'm a 34 yr old, 230 lb, 15% bf lardass with a decent job that is not condusive to a fitness lifestyle. i like to squat, deadlift and bench and i don’t mind doing cardio. i want to be lean, big, strong, fit and healthy. there are days when i show extreme discipline. there are days when i can barely control what or how much i eat. in other words, i’m everyone. i’m no one. i’m your momma, your daddy, and your greasy, greasy granny. and like many of us, i have recently turned (returned in my case) to dnp for a little help. so i thought i would share some of what i have gathered, hopefully to entertain, and maybe inspire some discussion….here goes…..
dnp is dangerous. toxic. bad for you. bad for me. sure it is. and the government should ban it in all forms for any use in order to keep us safe. like they did with cigarettes, whiskey, krispy kreme doughnuts, and coca-cola. pardon-fuckin-me, but you can’t count the number of people who die every day from smoking on one hand. smoking is so bad for you that it kills people who don’t even smoke. and if you want to tally up the daily death count from booze (direct and drunk driving) and obesity related deaths (too many ways to die to count), you’d better get an abacus and a 12 yr old chinese kid to work it. how many people have died from dnp overdoses? 12? 100? more? i don’t know, but i know that it isn’t even in the ballpark with how many have died from safe, morally acceptable substances like chewing tobacco and doritos. (want a laugh? grab a bag of doritos at the market and compare the the number of grams of fat per serving with the number of chips per serving….damn near 1g fat/chip on some flavors) and didn’t the government approve the old fen-phen combo a few years ago? i know dnp has some potentially bad side effects, but i’ll roll the dice any day compared to what the accepted levels of fen-phen did to people. so if the pundits and the writers at t-mag want to espouse that dnp is the most dangerous thing in the world so that i might buy their fat burners….fuck’em. (don’t get me wrong….i like t-mag ok…not the new format though) and it’s not like i’m going to stay on the stuff for months at a time (although that might be just fine). apparently in the 30’s people stayed on small doses for a year or more. so bush, kerry and everyone else with an opinion on what i should do with my body…leave me the fuck alone. i know what i am doing and if it turns out that i don’t then that’s my problem…..i won’t sue. (unlike smokers and chronic drunks)
200 mg/ day for long periods vs. 400-800 mg/day for a week. there is no good, complete answer. the discussion on the board is now leaning toward favoring longer cycles with lower doses. ok. then someone claims that shorter cycles with higher doses work better. ok. just like aas doses or how many drinks it takes you to catch a buzz, there are guidelines but tolerances vary. personally, i sweat too much to do longer cycles without huge acne issues. even 200 mg/day makes me sweat a lot some of the time. also, i worry about t3 suppression, and don’t want to take cytomel at this time. it’s really cool that a lot of guys on the board put up some good guidelines to reference, but everyone must assess their own tolerance. and it has been said that unless you are very lean then you don’t see the results until some time after you finish the cycle. i concur, as this applies to me. i personally do week long cycles at moderate doses. i can minimize my time at work and spend time sitting on this fat piece of shit I call an ass at home. or maybe go to barnes and noble, where they purposely ice the damn place down so people don’t stay too long and abuse their periodical section like i do. that one backfired on them. perfect place to hang out on dnp..where was i? oh yeah…so one way might be right for me but not you. and vice versa. just don’t anyone start on real high doses and kill yourself. read H’s post on how not to fuck it up. no one needs the heat from a dnp casualty. (not that kind of heat, anyway)
and on the topic of sweating. does tossing and turning in a sweat soaked bed count a cardio? like swimming laps? i hope so. i’m currently on the last day of a 7 day 400 mg/day run and for me it’s bad. back/body acne acting up a little. face looks like i’m a teenager working the grill at mcdonalds. had to get some alcohol based face wash astringent because i’m worried about getting permanent pock marks. about day 4 i lost the perma-sweat and kinda freaked out. some one suggested i up the dose. so i rescheduled my pills, basically shortening the time between doses on day 4. got 600 mg that day and it worked. thanks for the tip, guys.
diet while on. i normally don’t eat a lot of carbs, but i give myself some leeway on dnp cycles. sometimes too much leeway. i tend to rationalize like this….”well, i’m on 400 mg/day so i probably need some high gi carbs….yeah, i think this kit-kat should do just fine”….fatso logic. gotta love it. i feel like a million pesos when i eat some chicken soft tacos with lots of salsa. now if i could keep from eating 200 chips with the salsa, i’d be doing great.
supplements. using a high potency multi/anti oxidant combo. extra c&e. extra magnesium and potassium too. lots of r-ala. 2-3 gallons of water a day, plus 2 v8s. but there is one thing i’m doing this time that i wasn’t doing before and it makes a world of difference. every time i pop a dnp cap, i pop a benadryl. no rashes, less reddening skin…also, the last couple of cycles, i got to feeling like holy hell from day 4 on. not this time. i am not sure if the benadryl has anything to do with that, but its really the only change in the supp routine and i’m on the highest dose yet. less fatigue too. go figure.
results. the last two cycles with H’s stuff got me about 5 lbs of fat loss (200 mg/day/7 days) and 7 lbs of fat loss (alternated 200&400 mg for 6 days). not bad, except i lost my discipline somewhere between the cycles and put some fat back on. now, my soon-to-be ex-wife has the scale i use and god knows when i’ll get to weigh myself. clothes are looser, though. good sign, because i don’t really show the leanness for a few days anyway! this time i’m not going to lose my disciple dammit.
couple of rants and irrelevant tangents in there….sorry….just my two cents….
lc
first of all, who am i? i'm a 34 yr old, 230 lb, 15% bf lardass with a decent job that is not condusive to a fitness lifestyle. i like to squat, deadlift and bench and i don’t mind doing cardio. i want to be lean, big, strong, fit and healthy. there are days when i show extreme discipline. there are days when i can barely control what or how much i eat. in other words, i’m everyone. i’m no one. i’m your momma, your daddy, and your greasy, greasy granny. and like many of us, i have recently turned (returned in my case) to dnp for a little help. so i thought i would share some of what i have gathered, hopefully to entertain, and maybe inspire some discussion….here goes…..
dnp is dangerous. toxic. bad for you. bad for me. sure it is. and the government should ban it in all forms for any use in order to keep us safe. like they did with cigarettes, whiskey, krispy kreme doughnuts, and coca-cola. pardon-fuckin-me, but you can’t count the number of people who die every day from smoking on one hand. smoking is so bad for you that it kills people who don’t even smoke. and if you want to tally up the daily death count from booze (direct and drunk driving) and obesity related deaths (too many ways to die to count), you’d better get an abacus and a 12 yr old chinese kid to work it. how many people have died from dnp overdoses? 12? 100? more? i don’t know, but i know that it isn’t even in the ballpark with how many have died from safe, morally acceptable substances like chewing tobacco and doritos. (want a laugh? grab a bag of doritos at the market and compare the the number of grams of fat per serving with the number of chips per serving….damn near 1g fat/chip on some flavors) and didn’t the government approve the old fen-phen combo a few years ago? i know dnp has some potentially bad side effects, but i’ll roll the dice any day compared to what the accepted levels of fen-phen did to people. so if the pundits and the writers at t-mag want to espouse that dnp is the most dangerous thing in the world so that i might buy their fat burners….fuck’em. (don’t get me wrong….i like t-mag ok…not the new format though) and it’s not like i’m going to stay on the stuff for months at a time (although that might be just fine). apparently in the 30’s people stayed on small doses for a year or more. so bush, kerry and everyone else with an opinion on what i should do with my body…leave me the fuck alone. i know what i am doing and if it turns out that i don’t then that’s my problem…..i won’t sue. (unlike smokers and chronic drunks)
200 mg/ day for long periods vs. 400-800 mg/day for a week. there is no good, complete answer. the discussion on the board is now leaning toward favoring longer cycles with lower doses. ok. then someone claims that shorter cycles with higher doses work better. ok. just like aas doses or how many drinks it takes you to catch a buzz, there are guidelines but tolerances vary. personally, i sweat too much to do longer cycles without huge acne issues. even 200 mg/day makes me sweat a lot some of the time. also, i worry about t3 suppression, and don’t want to take cytomel at this time. it’s really cool that a lot of guys on the board put up some good guidelines to reference, but everyone must assess their own tolerance. and it has been said that unless you are very lean then you don’t see the results until some time after you finish the cycle. i concur, as this applies to me. i personally do week long cycles at moderate doses. i can minimize my time at work and spend time sitting on this fat piece of shit I call an ass at home. or maybe go to barnes and noble, where they purposely ice the damn place down so people don’t stay too long and abuse their periodical section like i do. that one backfired on them. perfect place to hang out on dnp..where was i? oh yeah…so one way might be right for me but not you. and vice versa. just don’t anyone start on real high doses and kill yourself. read H’s post on how not to fuck it up. no one needs the heat from a dnp casualty. (not that kind of heat, anyway)
and on the topic of sweating. does tossing and turning in a sweat soaked bed count a cardio? like swimming laps? i hope so. i’m currently on the last day of a 7 day 400 mg/day run and for me it’s bad. back/body acne acting up a little. face looks like i’m a teenager working the grill at mcdonalds. had to get some alcohol based face wash astringent because i’m worried about getting permanent pock marks. about day 4 i lost the perma-sweat and kinda freaked out. some one suggested i up the dose. so i rescheduled my pills, basically shortening the time between doses on day 4. got 600 mg that day and it worked. thanks for the tip, guys.
diet while on. i normally don’t eat a lot of carbs, but i give myself some leeway on dnp cycles. sometimes too much leeway. i tend to rationalize like this….”well, i’m on 400 mg/day so i probably need some high gi carbs….yeah, i think this kit-kat should do just fine”….fatso logic. gotta love it. i feel like a million pesos when i eat some chicken soft tacos with lots of salsa. now if i could keep from eating 200 chips with the salsa, i’d be doing great.
supplements. using a high potency multi/anti oxidant combo. extra c&e. extra magnesium and potassium too. lots of r-ala. 2-3 gallons of water a day, plus 2 v8s. but there is one thing i’m doing this time that i wasn’t doing before and it makes a world of difference. every time i pop a dnp cap, i pop a benadryl. no rashes, less reddening skin…also, the last couple of cycles, i got to feeling like holy hell from day 4 on. not this time. i am not sure if the benadryl has anything to do with that, but its really the only change in the supp routine and i’m on the highest dose yet. less fatigue too. go figure.
results. the last two cycles with H’s stuff got me about 5 lbs of fat loss (200 mg/day/7 days) and 7 lbs of fat loss (alternated 200&400 mg for 6 days). not bad, except i lost my discipline somewhere between the cycles and put some fat back on. now, my soon-to-be ex-wife has the scale i use and god knows when i’ll get to weigh myself. clothes are looser, though. good sign, because i don’t really show the leanness for a few days anyway! this time i’m not going to lose my disciple dammit.
couple of rants and irrelevant tangents in there….sorry….just my two cents….
lc
