Someone tell me this isn't all there is?

I've put spoons in the microwave no big deal I was giving you a bit of shit, but in all honesty man I wouldn't risk damaging the hormone with the microwave. Microwaves heat objects extremely unevenly (example: that leftover slice of pizza with one end that's 700° and has a cold spot on one side:confused:) just doesn't seem worth the risk.

I’m not sure if liquid heats the same as a solid like pizza.
Never had a problem before and I only nuke it until the crystals dissolve. 10 vials no issues. Man I miss the test base preworkout. Not running enough test right now to use it though.
 
I've put spoons in the microwave no big deal I was giving you a bit of shit, but in all honesty man I wouldn't risk damaging the hormone with the microwave. Microwaves heat objects extremely unevenly (example: that leftover slice of pizza with one end that's 700° and has a cold spot on one side:confused:) just doesn't seem worth the risk.

Agreed. Stick it in boiling water for 10-15 minutes. I have a frying basket which makes it easy to suspend the vial in a pot.
 
To be fair homebrewing is a bit of a misnomer. It's more like home packaging. If you were actually synthesizing the testosterone, I'd call that homebrewing.


It would be like buying a weed plant, already flowered, trimmed and cut, and doing the curing yourself, then calling that growing weed.
 
To be fair homebrewing is a bit of a misnomer. It's more like home packaging. If you were actually synthesizing the testosterone, I'd call that homebrewing.


It would be like buying a weed plant, already flowered, trimmed and cut, and doing the curing yourself, then calling that growing weed.
What about homemixing?
 
What about homemixing?

I am not familiar with the term. Is this combining different AAS in one vial?

In my humble opinion, unless you take a substance that has absolutely no anabolic or androgenic effects, and through chemistry turn it into one that does, it's not really "brewing", it's more packaging/ bottling.

Not to insult hombrewers. I know doing so to create a high quality product takes a lot of work to create sterility, accurate dosing, and smooth PIP-free juice.
 
To be fair homebrewing is a bit of a misnomer. It's more like home packaging. If you were actually synthesizing the testosterone, I'd call that homebrewing.


It would be like buying a weed plant, already flowered, trimmed and cut, and doing the curing yourself, then calling that growing weed.
This is a bad analogy man. What you should have said was it's like being the guy that makes the pot brownies and calling yourself the grower. Your analogy would be the same as a guy simply buying the powder. Not the same. Being a chemist that synthesizes hormones isn't brewing by any stretch, that's chemical manufacturing. It's just like calling the weed grower an edible manufacturer, they just provide the product for the other entity to do their work.

I don't see it....
 
To be fair homebrewing is a bit of a misnomer. It's more like home packaging. If you were actually synthesizing the testosterone, I'd call that homebrewing.


It would be like buying a weed plant, already flowered, trimmed and cut, and doing the curing yourself, then calling that growing weed.

People that homebrew beer don't grow the fucking barley either.

Holy shit man, your that guy
 
Possibly , I'd bet a lot of labs , especially bigger labs that are pumping out 1000's of ml' s of gear a day do shit like this all the time . I know we'd like to think most of these labs pride themselves in putting out a quality products , but realistically most are just drug dealers who only care about their bottom line .

In the absence of oversight why would any UGL care about delivering a quality product?

Oh there are some very good reasons but since an overwhelming majority of forum resalers are here to today gone tomorrow manufacturers its best
to KNOW your source is trustworthy, or brew it yourself, and neither are “easy” tasks in today’s PED marketplace.

Jim
 
To be fair homebrewing is a bit of a misnomer. It's more like home packaging. If you were actually synthesizing the testosterone, I'd call that homebrewing.


It would be like buying a weed plant, already flowered, trimmed and cut, and doing the curing yourself, then calling that growing weed.
You need to take a step back and think about what your saying.
 
In the absence of oversight why would any UGL care about delivering a quality product?
Yep, if it wasn't for anabolic lab , and the few other options we have available for quantitative testing the ugl market would be a mine field at best. Sadly even with the testing we have available there will ALWAYS be the labs that try to pull a fast one on their customers .
 
Yep, if it wasn't for anabolic lab , and the few other options we have available for quantitative testing the ugl market would be a mine field at best. Sadly even with the testing we have available there will ALWAYS be the labs that try to pull a fast one on their customers .
Everything you said is true.

No one should buy from these ugls until they'e been vetted. It kills me to see guys wasting $$$ because they couldn't wait a month or two.

Respectful
 
Yep, if it wasn't for anabolic lab , and the few other options we have available for quantitative testing the ugl market would be a mine field at best. Sadly even with the testing we have available there will ALWAYS be the labs that try to pull a fast one on their customers .

Perhaps not withstanding Anabolic Labs the current arrangement of “analytical” UGL testing UGL manufacturers products is much like the cat guarding the hen house.

And I say this bc I have I see any UG analytical lab post not only their “results” but the graphics, and entire procedure from solvents to the specific methodology being used.
 
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Perhaps not withstanding Anabolic Labs the current arrangement of “analytical” UGL testing UGL manufacturers products is much like the cat guarding the hen house.

And I say this bc I have I see any UG analytical lab post not only their “results” but the graphics, and entire procedure from solvents to the specific methodology being used.

I can definitely see the issue of there being some conflict of interest (or potential corruption rather) when it comes to these ug analytical labs "fudging" results for financial gain .

But what I dont understand is if you(as the end customer) send them a completely anonamous sample for testing , and they arrive at a result that reflects what you are expecting to see , how would they come up with said result without the proper procedures in place?

I am a complete layman in regaurd to analytical testing , so im sry if im completely misinterpreting the point your making .

Edit: and just to be clear in my previous statement im not accusing any of these testing labs of anything shady i.e. posting results in exchange for money . Only that I can see that potentially as an issue to be aware of.
 
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Here's your result of the T-c you just sent a lab in brief

Dear sir based upon the LC/MS assay we conducted your sample contained the following

Testosterone Cypionate

157mg/ml

While some analytical labs also include a graphic analysis there is NO WAY to cross reference the results obtained with standardized protocols using the information provided and this fact accounts for what is referred to as "dry labing" in the analytical industry.

In other words ---they ran your sample NOT!

Jim
 
Here's a few simplified means of ensuring an UG analytical lab is actually testing samples and delivering reliable results

1) send them a US Pharma sample where the concentrations are "guaranteed" within 5%

2) send them bogus products and deliberately mislabel the contents; like send CSO labeled as Nandrolone at 200mg/ml

3) decline to specifically list vial contents or concentrations but rather state "sample is said to contain an AAS at an unknown concentration"

4) FINALLY understand there's A LOT of money to be made "testing" UGL PEDs and it's much cheaper to deliver a result "that works" rather than disappoint the multitudes!

JIM
 
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