There was an argument going on over there that one sources tren must be fake because the oils are clear. No dark color meant fake to some of THEM apparently. I had to laugh at that one. So alpha is a well received sponsor there too, eh?
I'm one of THEM. I love that board as I do this one...just in a different way.
He has sort of hold over us....ALP=Karius=owner of anabolicboard.co*(AB). K bought the board in 2004(pretty sure that's the correct year). He bought AB to give his product a stage. Also, he was able to pick and choose his competition. Over the yrs the spons
I've used a good bit of Alpha (ALP) tabs and was always pleased. Caught me off guard with Dr Jim's tests! But I've never had problems with his tabs. I use another's oils...
Great tabs at great prices. The min has been high at times $500, $200 and currently $300 seems to be steadying. Shipping charges have been a constant at $30.00 along with payment options being Western Union/Moneygram for most with CIM for VIP customers.
TA always reasonable at 7-10 days after funds picked up, Tracking if and when the 7-10 days elapses without delivery. This rarely happens.
I wasn't around for the drama that unfolded at Meso between johnnyB, brutus, and the meso faithful(Millard the visionary) on one side and alp, karius, graniteman, regular and AB vets on the other.
It was over when I returned in mid September. Not being a part of it all was ok with me. I don't think I mind not having to choose sides. Looking at things from a distance it's clear that I would have had to.
Meeting jb and brutus here and interacting as we do and have done has been an experience I'm grateful to be apart of. I most likely talked up AB to both guys. I still recommend AB to certain members that contact me here by "conversation" looking for something outside of Meso. I recommend a very small % of guys. I am responsible for those I do send or bring there. It's a board that is small relative to meso membership and seems to be comfortable with it's size and isn't ambitious as Meso seems to be. Membership, after some point of growth. seems to grow without much effort? Is it the placing of certain answers in the top 5 or 10 by the monster search engine. google? It certainly helps.
AB doesn't talk much about referrals or growth. We like it that way. The sources there are looked at by the guys that have been there for any length of time as "friends/brothers" first, and sources and businessmen second. That's an advantage without question that works in favor of the sources. We as VIP's there are quick to jump in and "protect" our friends. It happened when Karius first came to meso. I felt the urge to protect and clear the way for ALP/karius and to let members know who he was and what my intentions were. I was there looking for troublemakers.
I believe AB vip's graniteman and regular(IM, also) picked up the slack right where I left it when i left. I can understand how and why some believe those guys were hired hands of karius and his board. They aren't and weren't. 100% guarantee they were not.
They were more dedicated and put much more into their position than any hired gun ever could because their hearts were in it. When a hired gun would normally tire those guys were just getting started. After all, to them, it was the same as if they were protecting an extended member of their very own families? You can't buy that kind of passion and dedication. They wouldn't have taken compensation, either.
I've had my issues(still do) with gman. But those issues are our issues. The kind of shit that isn't gonna play out on an open board in front of strangers. Some of you could be wherever to watch and comment, and that would be fine with me. You guys are part of my inner circle. Guys that aren't wouldn't be out of respect for gman. We know each other out on the streets here in Cali. Won't put our business out on front street.
Regular is a guy I also know beyond these forums. He's about an hrs drive from me. He is a guy that will take his limited free time to give to his friends and has given me plenty. His friendship coupled with his technical savvy makes for a formidable duo that has seen me running for his help knowing his arsenal is at my disposal. He'll give and give and get stronger and have more to give after i continue to take. He gets stronger and more dangerous to those he focuses on.
Brutus, jB and many of the guys here make me want to do right and stick to the values that I preach. Their expectations of me and how they view me is more important to me than Ii can explain. It's different here at meso. How these guys view me and my reasons for my behavior and actions have me constantly checking my motives and has me taking the time to be sure I'm doing the right thing.
Its the way things are in the presence of folks, friends, and family members out here. There are different expectations that people have for me out here depending on the audience.
I'm at a Spa/Resort for another day and night. Got here yesterday. I'm 10 minutes from where I live. These places are in every direction in these parts. I'm going to be here 2 nights of every week for the foreseeable future. Part of a deal I worked out with a person that can't pay a debt with cash.
It's ok. My girl is still sleeping. I don't really and haven't for a long time have a place I call home or even a place that has that feeling. I tell myself that it's "normal" and that i don't mind it. I even tell myself this is the way I prefer it?
That's not true. I sit here with my girl sleeping next to me and I suddenly feel more alone than I remember ever feeling? Running around and around...day and night until I fall out. Chasing all the time. My daughter is up from San Diego. Got to town yesterday afternoon. She's like her mom, my ex. She knows. She can tell when I'm the Dad and doing the right thing.
Doesn't matter if she see's me and talks to me every day. My head and mind is in places so it doesn't have to be where it should be. I don't think I can explain what I mean?
I can live a life doing the things I do that many would see as wrong and still be ok and good with my kids. It's when I let it take over completely that my daughter and her mom know I'm in too far.(that may be a better more clear explanation.) I think I'm happy and doing ok but know I'm not really happy. I think it means I should spend more time with them. One daughter is in LA. My 2 boys are still local. I need them all a great deal more than they need me.
