Source Check : The Provider And Homer Khan

[Pericles]

I've been running HK's grey tops @ 10iu/day 7 days/week for the past couple weeks.

I've put on roughly 12-15 lbs in that time, the bloat is god damn ridiculous. My abs are gone, my face is noticeably more big boned, and I've gone up over a full size on my belt. Granted, I fully anticipated getting sides when running high dose generics but it still sucks regardless. FWIW my TA with HK's international was around 5 weeks.

Yes, his T/A is about a month or so. Even emailing for a price list takes a while. There have been some variation on blood serum results, but most have been around 30ng.

If you live somewhere where it is hot, and far away you are going to get lower scores.

 

[Pericles]

Ya I'm not fucking with Hyges, nothing but bad results. And all of the blue tops I've ran leave nasty red lumps for days. I only wish me prolabwork didn't fall off:-(

If you go IM, problem will be solved. I can't remember all the details, But there is a propensity for Chinese GH to cause redness. The redness is the result of the end product having a high PH level.

 

[Pericles]

The Provider gave me better pricing then HK, but he has a grey top closeout. Its pretty damn cheap. Can't find any serum tests besides just plan generic Grey tops from anybody. And they sucked. I've been hearing nothing but good about these two but has anyone ran their Generics?

There are quite a few blood serum tests done and posted up on the Grey tops. They are out there, you just have to search. We all know that blood serums are not the best measure of quality, but when 4-5 labs or more get scores over 30ng's that the odds are pretty good that you have quality GH. There was one score of 12.9, but I think that is an outlier. A 12.9 is probably the result of shipping in the heat. Unreconstituted, the pucks can handle 2 weeks if temperatures are cool.

I will be getting IGF-1's in a few months.

 

[vidocq]

I've used HK a few times, for rips, each time it took almost 5 weeks on the dot to get em domestic to the west coast

 

[jookington]

So I'm trying to figure out why u would want international shipping vs. Domestic. Are they both taking same amount of time basically? Also need to pay another FULL shipping price for boxes and labels? I know TP charges for boxes and labels shipping. What about HK? Waiting to hear back.

 

[demonxp]

Sounds about right. Just do international with no labels. Save that money and get serum test done.

 

[muscle96ss]

So I'm trying to figure out why u would want international shipping vs. Domestic. Are they both taking same amount of time basically? Also need to pay another FULL shipping price for boxes and labels? I know TP charges for boxes and labels shipping. What about HK? Waiting to hear back.

If you get it domestically then you don't have to worry about customs. Many people will gladly pay extra to minimize the risk.

 

[jookington]

If you get it domestically then you don't have to worry about customs. Many people will gladly pay extra to minimize the risk.

That makes sense. Do you know if HK provides boxes and serial codes at no additional shipping?

 

[BBC]

TP WAS BETTER PRODUCT-GREY TOPS. And his customer service and shipping times are quicker.

I would put up Grey Tops up against anything HK sells.

 

[muscle96ss]

TP WAS BETTER PRODUCT-GREY TOPS. And his customer service and shipping times are quicker.

I would put up Grey Tops up against anything HK sells.

What are you talking about??? TP and HK have the EXACT same grey tops!

 

[demonxp]

It's best to buy it later on this month, when it starts to get cold. I also heard TP is faster on shipping. Grey tops are the exact same thing.

 

[iintensity]

How are you guys certain you are receiving 191AA and not 192?

 

[Pericles]

How are you guys certain you are receiving 191AA and not 192?

HK has a reputation that is impeccable. TP is also well regarded.

 

[Pericles]

Sounds about right. Just do international with no labels. Save that money and get serum test done.

Serums are run before the gear leaves China. You should come over to Pro Muscle, you have much more in common with the members there. This board is a collection of people banned from Pro Muscle. Yes, they protect sponsors over there, but once people get to know you they will trust you.

On this forum, PMs=scam. There, they are guys sharing info.

They will PM you.....PM's are not from sponsors (well except Big A) but from guys on the forum. Most of them are high level competitors. There are many IFBB pros there. If you are knowledgeable about contest prep or other things related to high level competing you will make friends fast. I was involved in a debate over depleting and loading vs diuretics and a gradual 10 fill out.n and another about Hematocrit.

Some of us disagreed (a guy over there has solved the problem of deplete/carb us using a very unique formula). A lot of guys defended his approach because he took them to victory.

Now here at MESO, the debate would spin down into a pissing match (although most of the vets here know nothing about contest prep). Over there, we stayed civil and I learned how to solve the issue of spillover in depleting and loading.

Thread stayed on topic for 20 plus pages. The focus there is on the solution, not the problem (as is here).

I got high quality test E 200 for $25 a vial, 3 Deca 300, 600 D bol, and 3 more test e's for $350 delivery.

Put your energy towards a place that will put you closer to you goals. You may not wish to get on stage, but the info will do you wonders.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Serums are run before the gear leaves China. You should come over to Pro Muscle, you have much more in common with the members there. This board is a collection of people banned from Pro Muscle. Yes, they protect sponsors over there, but once people get to know you they will trust you.

On this forum, PMs=scam. There, they are guys sharing info.

They will PM you.....PM's are not from sponsors (well except Big A) but from guys on the forum. Most of them are high level competitors. There are many IFBB pros there. If you are knowledgeable about contest prep or other things related to high level competing you will make friends fast. I was involved in a debate over depleting and loading vs diuretics and a gradual 10 fill out.n and another about Hematocrit.

Some of us disagreed (a guy over there has solved the problem of deplete/carb us using a very unique formula). A lot of guys defended his approach because he took them to victory.

Now here at MESO, the debate would spin down into a pissing match (although most of the vets here know nothing about contest prep). Over there, we stayed civil and I learned how to solve the issue of spillover in depleting and loading.

Thread stayed on topic for 20 plus pages. The focus there is on the solution, not the problem (as is here).

I got high quality test E 200 for $25 a vial, 3 Deca 300, 600 D bol, and 3 more test e's for $350 delivery.

Put your energy towards a place that will put you closer to you goals. You may not wish to get on stage, but the info will do you wonders.

So.... Now you're a recruiter for Pro Muscle PC??

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Serums are run before the gear leaves China. You should come over to Pro Muscle, you have much more in common with the members there. This board is a collection of people banned from Pro Muscle. Yes, they protect sponsors over there, but once people get to know you they will trust you.

On this forum, PMs=scam. There, they are guys sharing info.

They will PM you.....PM's are not from sponsors (well except Big A) but from guys on the forum. Most of them are high level competitors. There are many IFBB pros there. If you are knowledgeable about contest prep or other things related to high level competing you will make friends fast. I was involved in a debate over depleting and loading vs diuretics and a gradual 10 fill out.n and another about Hematocrit.

Some of us disagreed (a guy over there has solved the problem of deplete/carb us using a very unique formula). A lot of guys defended his approach because he took them to victory.

Now here at MESO, the debate would spin down into a pissing match (although most of the vets here know nothing about contest prep). Over there, we stayed civil and I learned how to solve the issue of spillover in depleting and loading.

Thread stayed on topic for 20 plus pages. The focus there is on the solution, not the problem (as is here).

I got high quality test E 200 for $25 a vial, 3 Deca 300, 600 D bol, and 3 more test e's for $350 delivery.

Put your energy towards a place that will put you closer to you goals. You may not wish to get on stage, but the info will do you wonders.

Hmm... seems I've already heard this argument from you before. It was about TID, wasn't it? Why, yes it was. What happened? Did TID not work out for you, PC?

I am over at TID now, because topics do not get hijacked in this manner.

That means that people who genuinely want to help others get no where here. They end up at places like TID, where everyone is trying to actually help one another.

Go over to TID, and then compare the types of discussions there. They are substantive, members treat each other with respect. The goal is to help everyone improve.

 

[brutus79]

HK has a reputation that is impeccable. TP is also well regarded.

What does his reputation have to do with how many amino acids are in the chain? Everyone thinks you are a piece of shit at tid, eroids and here at meso... so now you go to pm. I can only hope @muscle96ss spreads the word that you are a scamming blowhard sack of shit.

 

[CBlock]

I've been running HK's grey tops @ 10iu/day 7 days/week for the past couple weeks.

I've put on roughly 12-15 lbs in that time, the bloat is god damn ridiculous. My abs are gone, my face is noticeably more big boned, and I've gone up over a full size on my belt. Granted, I fully anticipated getting sides when running high dose generics but it still sucks regardless. FWIW my TA with HK's international was around 5 weeks.

Hey Mike, sorry to bump this thread but it was the only one I could find someone else running HK's greys.

I started my kit 2 weeks ago and this last week I've been getting the lethargy and stuffy head syndrome like crazy. You get any sides besides the typical GH numbness etc?? Could be a cold but I also started getting the red welts. Assuming it's the e-coli irritation as the BW doesn't effect me with anything else. Switched to IM and still get little knots but less painful. I'm assuming these greys are 192 but wanted to compare notes with somebody else running them

 

[muscle96ss]

Hey Mike, sorry to bump this thread but it was the only one I could find someone else running HK's greys.

I started my kit 2 weeks ago and this last week I've been getting the lethargy and stuffy head syndrome like crazy. You get any sides besides the typical GH numbness etc?? Could be a cold but I also started getting the red welts. Assuming it's the e-coli irritation as the BW doesn't effect me with anything else. Switched to IM and still get little knots but less painful. I'm assuming these greys are 192 but wanted to compare notes with somebody else running them

Almost nobody manufactures 192 anymore, thats like using VCR tapes instead of DVD's.

 

[CBlock]

Lol well that's a fuckin awesome response.

Thanks muscle.

I trust HK, just trying to narrow down how to eliminate the red welts. I'll deal with em but they're not the most pleasant things to sport in the bedroom... Switching to sterile water this week to see if it helps.