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[BroScientist]

Odd.. the OP of the Cataract thread was 22 and another 22 year old commented about cataracts in that thread and the one guy in here with the 22-23 year old friend who got cataracts, kind of makes you wonder.

Reread it. The second guy was talking about it being a big issue if he were 22, but he was in his 40s when he got cataracts from DNP.

Those 32 cases of cataracts, the shortest run was 3 months if I read correctly.

You should look at the cumulative doses.

Do you mind putting your safe/recommended usage with all supplements? Like no matter the cost, what is everything one should be taking?

I take vitamin C, a multivitamin, fish oil and some NAC (N-Acetyl-Carnosine) eye drops. There is limited studies on the NAC eye drops, but in my experience, they did actually clear up my vision that I did not know had been clouded at all. I think it was just age related for me though. I'm definitely not 22 anymore.

 

[Eman]

I know you are joking, so don’t take this as me trying to argue. Just posting the information below for people to read.

There are multiple causes, including my fraternity brother, that got cataracts in their early 20’s relatively shortly after taking DNP.

What are the odds that multiple people were in the small population of the world that gets cataracts as young adults... plus within the small bodybuilding population that takes DNP... plus happen to get the cataract shortly after taken DNP and not before... plus are strong enough to post their experience on an online forum.

The number of people that get cataracts as an early adult is extremely rare... however the number of young adults getting cataracts on the DNP forum appear to be more abundant than “extremely rare”... thus DNP appears to be increasing the likelihood of cataracts.

I’m a man of numbers, and the number point to some relationship between DNP and Cataracts. We aren’t even considering the cases of cataract cases where the person wasn’t open to sharing their devastating side effect on an online forum.

Thus, the limited number of cases at our disposal is enough to scare me away from this drug.

Cataracts affect millions of people. My chances of getting cataracts without DNP are extraordinary high. Over 75% of the people in this thread will get cataracts at some point, regardless of whether they take DNP.

There is a relationship between cataracts and numerous other things besides DNP... Literally, exposure to UV light is a cause of developing cataracts.

As far as correlation or causation with DNP and cataracts, the mechanism is not proven or understood.

 

[ounick28]

Cataracts affect millions of people. My chances of getting cataracts without DNP are extraordinary high. Over 75% of the people in this thread will get cataracts at some point, regardless of whether they take DNP.

There is a relationship between cataracts and numerous other things besides DNP... Literally, exposure to UV light is a cause of developing cataracts.

As far as correlation or causation with DNP and cataracts, the mechanism is not proven or understood.

I have to disagree with you here... correlation is definitely proven here... causation is what has yet and will likely never be understood.

Cataracts are common later in life, but for young adults to get cataracts are extremely rare. Then to have the cataract development in young adults shortly after DNP usage and it not to be from the DNP and just a “star aligning” is exponentially more rare. Then having multiple cases that are open to posting online is so rare it’s nearly impossible without some correlation.

 

[BroScientist]

As far as correlation or causation with DNP and cataracts, the mechanism is not proven or understood.

I have to disagree with you here... correlation is definitely proven here... causation is what has yet and will likely never be understood.

I posted the full text of the study that gets as close to proving the DNP cataract link as you are ever going to get without human DNP cataract trials. I'm sure it expired by now though, if you want to read it you will have to go to sci-hub on tor.

Biochemical Studies on Cataract: VI. Production of Cataracts in Guinea Pigs with Dinitrophenol - ScienceDirect

DNP is more well studied than people think it is.

 

[ounick28]

I posted the full text of the study that gets as close to proving the DNP cataract link as you are ever going to get without human DNP cataract trials. I'm sure it expired by now though, if you want to read it you will have to go to sci-hub on tor.

Biochemical Studies on Cataract: VI. Production of Cataracts in Guinea Pigs with Dinitrophenol - ScienceDirect

DNP is more well studied than people think it is.

Thanks for the link!

I personally think that the risk for cataracts is extremely low (the article claims 0.86% empirically). However, I think any risk is more than enough for me since all it does is make you lose weight which can be achieved eventually without the drug.

I just would be so pissed if I happen to be the 0.86% and my dumbass is getting cataract surgery knowing the whole time I did it to myself.

 

[HBK01]

Nearly half of the USA suffers from some sort of heart disease. A couple cases of cataracts is the least of our worries

 

[ounick28]

Nearly half of the USA suffers from some sort of heart disease. A couple cases of cataracts is the least of our worries

I mean long-term use of AAS is definitely more detrimental to one’s health than a few cycles of DNP... but any chance of cataracts or even edemas just to lose weight is not worth it for me.

If you’re obese, then I can see the risk-reward being worth it for DNP.

 

[Eman]

I have to disagree with you here... correlation is definitely proven here... causation is what has yet and will likely never be understood.

I didn't say that it wasn't, I said the mechanism isn't proven.

In addition, there are a lot of factors outside of DNP's use that cause cataracts.. my point being, this makes it even harder to determine the mechanism. With a side effect like hyperthermia... Pretty easy to determine the mechanism for what caused it. It isn't too hard to extrapolate what didn't cause them in users, but determining why it might have is tremendously difficult... Especially when most of the users were likely to develop cataracts anyways based on the stats.

 

[HBK01]

I mean long-term use of AAS is definitely more detrimental to one’s health than a few cycles of DNP... but any chance of cataracts or even edemas just to lose weight is not worth it for me.

If you’re obese, then I can see the risk-reward being worth it for DNP.

I didn’t mean from AAS use. I mean from being an unhealthy lazy fat shit. After a certain age and you decide to get on HRT, you’re more likely going to live a healthier and active lifestyle

 

[johnwelch]

When’s the last time you used it?

around two years ago. I only ever ran dinitro and I would buy a bunch and keep it for later cycles.

If it was winter, I would run like 750 mg/day (his came in 250 mg caps) for 7 days. Take 3 days off, and start again. For me, I found running large doses for a short time to be more effective. Though, this isn't feasible any longer due to work and life commitments.

I sent payment info to shredded but haven't heard anything since. That's normal right?

 

[BroScientist]

I just would be so pissed if I happen to be the 0.86% and my dumbass is getting cataract surgery knowing the whole time I did it to myself.

I know exactly what you mean. All this effort, procuring, capping, suffering, and then cataracts!

I didn't say that it wasn't, I said the mechanism isn't proven.

The mechanism is exactly proven. What's not known is why either the metabolism process is different for most people, or why most people have a resistance to the cataractogenic chemical.



The cataract producing chemical is very similar to other known cataract producing chemicals.



Again, this is all in the study I posted, that I am spoon feeding here.

 

[T&H]

around two years ago. I only ever ran dinitro and I would buy a bunch and keep it for later cycles.

If it was winter, I would run like 750 mg/day (his came in 250 mg caps) for 7 days. Take 3 days off, and start again. For me, I found running large doses for a short time to be more effective. Though, this isn't feasible any longer due to work and life commitments.

I sent payment info to shredded but haven't heard anything since. That's normal right?

Yes, he usually just ships after receiving payment. I don't get payment confirmation from him.

 

[BroScientist]

I sent payment info to shredded but haven't heard anything since. That's normal right?

Your next communication will be the pack in your mailbox. The system works.

 

[johnwelch]

Yes, he usually just ships after receiving payment. I don't get payment confirmation from him.

okay good. just making sure.

 

[BigJ956]

What's the ideal diet for optimum results using DNP?

 

[juanchoknicks]

Any updates with shreddedlabs February orders ?

 

[juanchoknicks]

What's the ideal diet for optimum results using DNP?

I will say keto diet works for me. Or a low carb diet

 

[HBK01]

Any updates with shreddedlabs February orders ?

Send an email with order questions. Don’t think it’s too bright on a public forum. Just lookin out

 

[Villain]

You should look at the cumulative doses.

I don’t think that study had their dosage. Did I miss something?

 

[KCMO]

T/D today, took exactly a month from order to delivery. He had personal shit and made it clear here so it’s ok. I was really hoping my pack was one of the last to go out before shutdown but that’s life lol. If the stuff works I’ll be back to buy again.