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darkseid

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Well I said I'd to a cycle log so here I am. Placed the order today I will update the log when the order lands. I'll be running teste and dbol, teste 500mg a week, dbol 25mg ed (I'll crank that up if need be, hoping I'm sensitive to it since it's a first cycle). PCT will be Nolva 10mg ed while on cycle, HCG weeks 6-14, and clomid to finish up starting @ week 14. I'll crank up the nolva when I start the PCT protocol.
 
Holy shit dude... You're a beast already... This should be good, subbed....

No AI? Just nolva @10 while on cycle?
 
I wouldn't run Nolva on cycle, it's best saved for PCT. You should run an AI along with your test to keep high E symptoms at bay.
 
Sounds like a nice first run,you may want to have a AI on hand the Nolva will probably not be needed unless your horribly sensitive.
Good luck!
 
Hey thanks for the input guys, I'll grab some arimidex then and run it while on cycle and save the nolva and run it with the clomid afterwards.
 
I probably won't start the arim unless I feel it's needed. I just automatically thought it would be because I had bad gyno when I went through puberty.. Was one of those lucky ones
 
I would say, and do this myself, don't run the AI until you notice sides. I've never found a use to run an AI during the entire length of my cycles and I run much more aggressive cycles than what you plan on running.

If you are really jumpy about getting gyno, then run the AI at the very first symptom (the first symptoms I notice are a tingly burning sensation, or my nipps puff out slightly). I personally have a tendency to wait a day or two after I notice anything to start an AI, and I have never developed gyno. I usually run the AI for less than a week (either .5 eod for 4 days, or 1 e3d for 6 days) and discontinue until I notice any more sides. It's not like you are going to wake up one day, and bam you got bitch tits. It takes quite a while for symptoms to develop into full blown gyno.
 
Again thanks for the input fellas'. I think I'll have it on hand and go to it if I need it. On a side note, I ordered from Spetz Friday morning and he has not responded to me with tracking info yet. Friday night he said I'd have tracking info. Haven't heard anything yet after emailing him twice..
 
You can use nolva/clomid (serm) on cycle to control estrogen. Most people will tell you to run AI, because they ...

1.) Had/have no clue you can use serms.
2.) Following the herd of what everyone's doing.

If you can't get an AI, by the time you start your cycle that's fine, the serm will work until your AI arrives.

Good luck
 
Scheduled to land today!! I'll update when it does. How do you guys go about posting pics to keep things as private as possible??
 
You can use nolva/clomid (serm) on cycle to control estrogen. Most people will tell you to run AI, because they ...

1.) Had/have no clue you can use serms.
2.) Following the herd of what everyone's doing.

If you can't get an AI, by the time you start your cycle that's fine, the serm will work until your AI arrives.

Good luck


I'm with mghoward. you can run Nolv during your cycle. if your gyno prone than I would run Nolv throughout.
 
That was my orig. plan Hucking. Is there any reason why the trend is to run AI instead? I don't see why it matters so much so long as the estrogen is under control
Also, my package has landed!! So excited. Although I may not get to start as soon as I thought.. New job opportunity which = piss test...
 
That was my orig. plan Hucking. Is there any reason why the trend is to run AI instead? I don't see why it matters so much so long as the estrogen is under control
Also, my package has landed!! So excited. Although I may not get to start as soon as I thought.. New job opportunity which = piss test...


I'm not sure why some of these trends get started and get made into dogma.
 
@darkseid Most companies do a 5 or 10 panel drug test, a 10 panel drug screen will provide results for marijuana, cocaine, PCP, opiates, methamphetamine, methadone, amphetamines, barbiturates, benzodiazepines and tricylic antidepressants. A drug test to detect AAS is considerably more expensive to run than the standard 5/10 panel. I would not risk a good job over listening to me, just saying it is super rare outside of sports or maybe a high risk position (ex. security).
 
Hey thanks for the advice runner. I have decided to go ahead and start. If I fail the drug test I'll blame it on a PH I guess.
 
Alright I've got everything in order. Pins and PCT landed. First injection tonight, will inject teste twice a week Wednesday & Sundays.
 
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