Spinoff: How long did it take you..

[mjf]

To just give up?

I'm not totally giving up, just giving up on being as big as some of you. I'm actually slightly proud of my transformation, but given the amount of aas I've used I'm also disappointed. Diet and training have been a little sketchy off and on as well, so that's a big contributor.

I think it's time for me to realize I'm meant to look like a skinny underwear model at best and not like some of you monsters. My biggest complaint is actually my arm size if we're talking lack of growt. Since getting serious about this, and starting to take measurements my unflexed arm hasn't grown even a 16th of an inch.

I'll stop whining now. Maybe later today I'll take an extra dose of adex and try to stop being a little bitch.

 

[Eman]

We don't give up. We adapt and we overcome. Giving up is for the weak.

Fix what's wrong and improve! I can tell you right off, you're not eating enough. Eat big = get big.

 

[mjf]

I had always been the type to stay in reasonable shape until I met my current wife. Something went wrong and I drank every day and ate out almost every day for lunch and dinner, and quit doing anything physical. This pic was after getting back on trt and it was the first time I didn't run away when a camera was pulled out



That was about 208lbs of mexican food. I dieted down on my own following a paleo diet and got down to around 183lbs.



After this pic, I enlisted the help of an online nutritionist to set me up on a diet to try to lean bulk.

 

[mjf]

Along the way I trained horribly and was plagued with small, nagging injuries so progress would happen, then go away as I took time off to heal.





These two pics are the same day. A very slight pump on chest, but a preworkout shot for the most part. Pic with shirt on, I was trying to see my lats. Didn't work.

 

[mjf]

I had a few injuries and set backs after that then worked my way back to this.



I posted a more recent, unflexed, no pump picture recently, but don't have that one on my phone. Basically I'm happy with my progress overall. I'm currently sitting at 204lbs at 5'8", but it's quite a bit of fat and water weight. I took Frank's advice to heart a little too much when he said eat everything in sight to get big as long as you're getting your carbs and protein in. I was hoping the increase in weight would transfer over to a bulkier look and I could cut slightly before summer to get the abs back. But still, 2 months and 20 extra pounds into it and my arms haven't grown any.

 

[rugerjitsu]

To just give up?

I'm not totally giving up, just giving up on being as big as some of you. I'm actually slightly proud of my transformation, but given the amount of aas I've used I'm also disappointed. Diet and training have been a little sketchy off and on as well, so that's a big contributor.

I think it's time for me to realize I'm meant to look like a skinny underwear model at best and not like some of you monsters. My biggest complaint is actually my arm size if we're talking lack of growt. Since getting serious about this, and starting to take measurements my unflexed arm hasn't grown even a 16th of an inch.

I'll stop whining now. Maybe later today I'll take an extra dose of adex and try to stop being a little bitch.

I think many people don't necessarily "give up", but rather change their goals...especially, those that aren't in their 20's or 30's anymore!

I wanted to be "big" in high school...mainly because I was skinny and had little confidence in defending myself.

Shortly after high school I got into grappling...confidence shot through the roof, and being big wasn't necessary for confidence reasons.

I stayed active, and being strong was my main goal outside of improving my grappling skills.

Then, in my 30's, my thoughts on being big seemed to be more of a health hazard! It's not in my genetics to be big...

Now, just turning 40, it's all about quality of life and staying fit. As far as gear, TRT dosages of test and my new found love of Masteron keep me looking and feeling like a champ. That and whipping 20 year olds asses on the mat keep me going...being big? No thanks. But to each their own!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I don't. If I'm not reaching my goals I research reasons why and possible solutions. Then through trial and error I overcome them. I'm human and not perfect, but nothing ever interferes with my training and diet more than a couple days and even that is rare. If I'm injured I train around it or focus on other lifts. Not reaching my goals isn't even a consideration.

 

[HIGHRISK]

I feel you bro. I've tried cutting down and when it doesn't go my way I give up and go back to wanting to just be a big MFer. I know if I cut down some fat I would actually look bigger with out getting bigger. I have the discipline just not the knowledge and when I read about my dieting i had no idea what diet or how and what I should eat. I get pissed and just say fuck it. Go back to eating my protein and carbs.

 

[mjf]

I realize at 45, my goal shouldn't exactly be to be a giant, bulky guy but that's always been my dream. I just never had the focus or determination in my younger days to accomplish it. I would work out for 6 months or so and see a little muscle then stop.

 

[Sk8man101]

Honestly man I think you already got a pretty solid mass going on.
Just stop giving a fuck about who is bigger than you and go lift some heavy ass weights!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Be honest with yourself
1) Are you REALLY training like a champ?
Reason i ask is i can tell your not squatting or doing any disgustingly difficult lower body work. What the hell does that have to do with it? Those that say fuck legs in general, are lazy bastards and lack the fortitude to really push their bodies and souls to break thru to new levels.
Your not training hard enough, often enough or fast enough.
Your first statement reflects it all
When the going gets tough. Give up
2)Get on a real program. Not brobullshit. Need help ill give you a few suggestions. But you will be doing legs 2x a week minimum if im going to lend a hand
3)Are you keeping a workout notepad?
4)A diet notepad?
5) how much rest per night?

 

[mjf]

I admit I did hate legs in the beginning. I even skipped leg day almost every day for the first 6 months after getting serious. I rationalized saying I was running every day so it was ok not to lift.

I'm working on the legs more now. I even had them twice a week in my routine for a while.

I don't keep a workout pad. I track my diet un myfitnesspal, but normally only when I'm eating right. Right now I'm eating horribly and way too much because of trying to gain weight.

I get about 7 hours of sleep, but it's constantly interrupted, rolling around trying to get my lower back to quit hurting.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Alot of people find tremendous success with strength training when volume training failes
It is THE bonified way to get bigger if genetics arent the greatest

I have yet to see anyone get tremendously strong that also did not gain size in the process

 

[mjf]

I have recently changed my workout routine. I posted my routine and most of the feedback was it was an awful routine. For a few weeks I've been doing heavier weight with 3-4 sets of 5-6. I haven't been doing it long enough to really say if it is helping.



I'm currently on the cycle routine listed there. I'll admit I only hit the gym 4 days last week with all the overtime I was working, and those 4 days weren't in a row. I'm always open to a change in routine.

 

[Iron Vett]

I admit I did hate legs in the beginning. I even skipped leg day almost every day for the first 6 months after getting serious. I rationalized saying I was running every day so it was ok not to lift.

I'm working on the legs more now. I even had them twice a week in my routine for a while.

I don't keep a workout pad. I track my diet un myfitnesspal, but normally only when I'm eating right. Right now I'm eating horribly and way too much because of trying to gain weight.

I get about 7 hours of sleep, but it's constantly interrupted, rolling around trying to get my lower back to quit hurting.

@gr8whitetrukker is right. Legs. Legs. Legs.

Leg day is always the first thing, the first day. That way it's over and done with and its never skipped. The body builds muscle while repairing itself based on the amount of stress it is put under. This response is in enzymes,hormones, etc. that can't be sent straight to the muscle worked out. It must be circulated through the entire body. Therefore the entire body receives benefit from this response to stress. A small muscle, a small stress, a small healing and growing response. Legs are the largest muscles in the body. A killer leg workout means a big stress creating a big healing response that the entire body benefits from.

 

[Iron Vett]

I have recently changed my workout routine. I posted my routine and most of the feedback was it was an awful routine. For a few weeks I've been doing heavier weight with 3-4 sets of 5-6. I haven't been doing it long enough to really say if it is helping.

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I'm currently on the cycle routine listed there. I'll admit I only hit the gym 4 days last week with all the overtime I was working, and those 4 days weren't in a row. I'm always open to a change in routine.

I'm not that big anymore but I used to be. And i did it on a four day split routine. But I absolutely killed it on those four days EVERY week. I'm 5' 11" and I know I only weigh 215 now but it's not necessarily how much you go to the gym every week. It's more of how hard you go at the gym every week. Leave everything there on every workout and you will see results.

Edit: If you always have to drag yourself to the door of the gym to leave, you're doing it right.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I'm not that big anymore but I used to be. And i did it on a four day split routine. But I absolutely killed it on those four days EVERY week. I'm 5' 11" and I know I only weigh 215 now but it's not necessarily how much you go to the gym every week. It's more of how hard you go at the gym every week. Leave everything there on every workout and you will see results.

Edit: If you always have to drag yourself to the door of the gym to leave, you're doing it right.

The last part - a good leg day, I have to hold the railing as I walk downstairs to get out. A great leg day I have to hold the railing with both hands, and then almost fall a couple of times walking across the parking lot - the evil thing is sloping downhill away from the gym, and you know how that feels....

 

[Iron Vett]

The last part - a good leg day, I have to hold the railing as I walk downstairs to get out. A great leg day I have to hold the railing with both hands, and then almost fall a couple of times walking across the parking lot - the evil thing is sloping downhill away from the gym, and you know how that feels....

That feeling is so, so satisfying.

 

[Hotrods12]

Be honest with yourself
1) Are you REALLY training like a champ?
Reason i ask is i can tell your not squatting or doing any disgustingly difficult lower body work. What the hell does that have to do with it? Those that say fuck legs in general, are lazy bastards and lack the fortitude to really push their bodies and souls to break thru to new levels.
Your not training hard enough, often enough or fast enough.
Your first statement reflects it all
When the going gets tough. Give up
2)Get on a real program. Not brobullshit. Need help ill give you a few suggestions. But you will be doing legs 2x a week minimum if im going to lend a hand
3)Are you keeping a workout notepad?
4)A diet notepad?
5) how much rest per night?

Read this post over a few times and if the answer to any of these questions is No, then you know why your not getting the gains you want.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Be honest with yourself
1) Are you REALLY training like a champ?
Reason i ask is i can tell your not squatting or doing any disgustingly difficult lower body work. What the hell does that have to do with it? Those that say fuck legs in general, are lazy bastards and lack the fortitude to really push their bodies and souls to break thru to new levels.
Your not training hard enough, often enough or fast enough.
Your first statement reflects it all
When the going gets tough. Give up
2)Get on a real program. Not brobullshit. Need help ill give you a few suggestions. But you will be doing legs 2x a week minimum if im going to lend a hand
3)Are you keeping a workout notepad?
4)A diet notepad?
5) how much rest per night?

Damn, you make me feel so guilty.

I follow most bullets, but not as dialled up as you, but my delts are a mere shadow of yours, so there.

I don't keep daily notebooks over anything other than the meds. My workouts are either whatever the PT has lined up, or which muscle group and joint feels rested. Food is kinda clean, but not weighed and measured. Maybe I should get better in those areas.