T-Bagger
Elite
Hard to call it placebo effect. First I ever pinned was Cyp and loved the results. My gym dealer said E was better. Used it and found it wasn’t the same. Went back and forth on Cyp & E with different UGL’s and it’s always the same result.Yep, placebo affect. E and C will not make you gain more than one over the other. If it works for you Rock it bud!!