Starting anavar on a fertility protocol

[Smashformass]

Hi all,

I’ve been on a fertility protocol for 6 months now after 5 years of blast & cruise. My current protocol is:

150 mg testosterone per week

3x 1000 IU HCG per week


Fertility has recovered surprisingly fast — I’m currently at 19.5 million sperm/ml.

Now, after 6 months, I’m finding it hard to maintain muscle mass and I’m considering adding something mild to support muscle retention.

Since I’m already on TRT and my HPTA is shut down anyway, would it be very harmful to my fertility if I added 30 mg Anavar (Oxandrolone) per day for a few weeks?

Would the 3x1000 IU HCG per week be enough to maintain fertility while using Anavar?

I’m also very strict with antioxidant supplementation (vitamin E, C, CoQ10, etc.).

Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated!

 

[IndividualMan]

additional stress put on your body is not good, maybe just eat a bit more for the time being. no shame in getting a bit fluffier while on a fertility protocol.
No need to stress your body with Oral AAS, especially when it would about double your dose of androgens (150mg/wk, even less if you subtract the ester, to a bit below 360mg/wk, not a smart move in my opinion)

 

[CorgisOnTren]

Hi all,

I’ve been on a fertility protocol for 6 months now after 5 years of blast & cruise. My current protocol is:

150 mg testosterone per week

3x 1000 IU HCG per week


Fertility has recovered surprisingly fast — I’m currently at 19.5 million sperm/ml.

Now, after 6 months, I’m finding it hard to maintain muscle mass and I’m considering adding something mild to support muscle retention.

Since I’m already on TRT and my HPTA is shut down anyway, would it be very harmful to my fertility if I added 30 mg Anavar (Oxandrolone) per day for a few weeks?

Would the 3x1000 IU HCG per week be enough to maintain fertility while using Anavar?

I’m also very strict with antioxidant supplementation (vitamin E, C, CoQ10, etc.).

Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated!

I’d add gh ‍

 

[Smashformass]

I’d add gh ‍

Already using 4iu hgh per day.

 

[sadoz]

Isn't halo, proviron better options if the main focus is fertility?

 

[Smashformass]

Isn't halo, proviron better options if the main focus is fertility?

Why halo?

 

[IndividualMan]

Isn't halo, proviron better options if the main focus is fertility?

nah man, for fertility you should run S23, Anadrol, Sdrol, and mibolerone. those are about as beneficial for sperm production as halo.

 

[Smashformass]

nah man, for fertility you should run S23, Anadrol, Sdrol, and mibolerone. those are about as beneficial for sperm production as halo.

Is this a joke or something serious? Haha

 

[IndividualMan]

100% seriououuos brah.
on a real note, dont use orals while on a fertility stack. big no no

 

[oldmanwilliams]

I wouldn't do it but if you do, maybe try metformin with it. But metformin also causes birth defects when fathers take it. You should just really be going clean now. Think of the bigger picture.

The Protective Effect of Metformin against Oxandrolone-Induced Infertility in Male Rats - PubMed

Metformin administration provided protection against oxandrolone-induced infertility in male rats. Further clinical studies are needed to confirm the protective effect of metformin against oxandrolone-induced infertility among athletes.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Smashformass]

I wouldn't do it but if you do, maybe try metf

100% seriououuos brah.
on a real note, dont use orals while on a fertility stack. big no no

ormin with it. But metformin also causes birth defects when fathers take it. You should just really be going clean now. Think of the bigger picture.

The Protective Effect of Metformin against Oxandrolone-Induced Infertility in Male Rats - PubMed

Metformin administration provided protection against oxandrolone-induced infertility in male rats. Further clinical studies are needed to confirm the protective effect of metformin against oxandrolone-induced infertility among athletes.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I think upping the test from 150 to 250 or 300 would be safer right? My hpta is already shut down and the hcg is only mimicing the LH so more test wond shut it down more after 5 years. And the oxidative stress from test solo is not much

 

[IndividualMan]

yeah, but remember: you currently want your nuts to work. if fertility is your goal, dont up the dose. if having fun is your main goal, fuck it. up the dose

 

[Tr3nbal0n3]

To be real with you, Testosterone alone is making it harder for you to regain fertility, it is very suppressive. Although Anavar is mild, it’s DHT derived. you want the most stable androgen levels possible when aiming to re-gain fertility. Throwing in Anavar would be a terrible idea If your priority is fertility, skip Anavar until the pregnancy is official. You can speed up the fertility process tremendously and get the job done, that way you can go back on Anavar with no worries.

You should start using HMG or rFSH.. FSH is actually the main driver when it comes to sperm production, it’s a common misconception that HCG is best for recovering fertility, which isn’t the case. FSH is.. I’d throw something in the mix to stimulate FSH so that you can recover your sperm to a higher number quicker and get the job. I’d also recommend using injectable L Carnitine as well. It’s going to increase sperm motility and shape. Best of luck

 

[Smashformass]

To be real with you, Testosterone alone is making it harder for you to regain fertility, it is very suppressive. Although Anavar is mild, it’s DHT derived. you want the most stable androgen levels possible when aiming to re-gain fertility. Throwing in Anavar would be a terrible idea If your priority is fertility, skip Anavar until the pregnancy is official. You can speed up the fertility process tremendously and get the job done, that way you can go back on Anavar with no worries.

You should start using HMG or rFSH.. FSH is actually the main driver when it comes to sperm production, it’s a common misconception that HCG is best for recovering fertility, which isn’t the case. FSH is.. I’d throw something in the mix to stimulate FSH so that you can recover your sperm to a higher number quicker and get the job. I’d also recommend using injectable L Carnitine as well. It’s going to increase sperm motility and shape. Best of luck

Thanks,

I added 75iu hmg 3x pw 1 month ago, how much carnitine do you reccomend?

 

[Cyp180]

Why ?

30mg a day is 210mg a week.
If you can not resist, lower the test to 100 and do 20mg a day.
I would stick the prescribed plan

 

[Tr3nbal0n3]

Thanks,

I added 75iu hmg 3x pw 1 month ago, how much carnitine do you reccomend?

People usually do a loading phase with it, You don’t actually have to, levels will reach steady state over time regardless, I ran 1,000mg a day for two weeks and then tapered down to 500mg a day. Its kind of annoying to inject 2ccs every single day, especially since Carnitine can sting pretty bad. 500mg a day is where you want to be sitting. Get your hands on a 500mg/ml vial. Or just order the base powder on Amazon and homebrew it yourself, it’s pretty easy. There’s videos on YouTube showing how to do it.