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[Mordecai]

Well i have been waiting a little under a year compiling everything needed to do a good first cycle and making sure all my gear is legit.

My cycle will consist of:

-500mg or Sust-250mgx2 per week-10wks, Monday mornings and thursday nights to get it as even as possible.

-300mg of Decca 150mg per week mixed with Sust-10wks.

Clomid 3 wks after last Sust shot-300mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

Stats are i am 5'7, 170lbs with about 13%bf-20yo. This will be my first and i hope to maximize my gains.

My main concerns are if my pct is in order and also, should i keep my decca at 300mg per week or bump it up?...down? Thanks bros.

 

[ydrpysg]

Well i have been waiting a little under a year compiling everything needed to do a good first cycle and making sure all my gear is legit.

My cycle will consist of:

-500mg or Sust-250mgx2 per week-10wks, Monday mornings and thursday nights to get it as even as possible.

-300mg of Decca 150mg per week mixed with Sust-10wks.

Clomid 3 wks after last Sust shot-300mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

Stats are i am 5'7, 170lbs with about 13%bf-20yo. This will be my first and i hope to maximize my gains.

My main concerns are if my pct is in order and also, should i keep my decca at 300mg per week or bump it up?...down? Thanks bros.

300 per week is fine for the Deca. I would also get some sort of anti-e to use during the cycle. my preference is adex but nolva or femara would be fine as well.

 

[Mordecai]

300 per week is fine for the Deca. I would also get some sort of anti-e to use during the cycle. my preference is adex but nolva or femara would be fine as well.

I have nolva on hand, but do you really think it is necesary if i show no signs of gyno? Wont it hinder gains somewhat?

 

[redgsr]

My first cycle was simmilar to yours, deff. get the nolva and keep it on hand just incase. Use 300 deca per week and I took 10mg of nolva a day cause it helps me so I dont retain as much water.

Red

 

[Mordecai]

My first cycle was simmilar to yours, deff. get the nolva and keep it on hand just incase. Use 300 deca per week and I took 10mg of nolva a day cause it helps me so I dont retain as much water.

Red

Did you even have to use it during cycle?

 

[rjx]

Drop the deca for this cycle since its your first cycle.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23190

"When you ask "what should I take for my cycle?" you are going to get the same answer from all of us no matter how many "buts" you throw at us. Their are very simple reasons why test is recommended for a first cycle so i am not going to bore you with anything complicated.

THE MAIN REASON I recommend test as a first cycle is that it is, and should be the building block of all future cycles. So you better know how you react to it. You need to know if you are gyno prone, how much water you are going to retain, how much will it raise your blood pressure, you need to learn how to combat there problems, and how to take steps to eliminate them in the future.

Another reason you should not stack drugs the first time is that you are not going to know how you react to certain drugs, which one is producing the best gains, and which one is causing the sides. Here is an example, lets say for a first cycle you stack deca and test, you get gyno, how the hell do you know what is causing it. Some people will assume it is the test and run deca again, but this time they will be well prepared for gyno brought on from test, but guess what, it is the deca causing it. Now you have d cups and are making an appointment to have your tits cut out. Another example, Needsize says he doesn't make great gains off test, so he has limited his test doses while using drugs he knows react well for him. How the hell is he going to know this if his first cycle was pot luck of different drugs.

And goddammit test is not a dirty word, for some reason alot of guys in the gym are afraid of test, it is a strong androgen, but the sides are very easily controlled for all but a few with a few simple drugs.

Maybe not the most important from a bodybuilding standpoint, but remember, if you take any steroids, you are going to shut your natural test production down, this can lead to impotence, and deca and tren are not the only ones that can cause this, any drug can, when not accompanied by test. Deca and tren are just the biggest offenders."

 

[Gavin Laird]

wait a while for fucks sake

Im sure you'll get a whole load of advice about this cycle or that cycle so heres my 2 cents. You have 148lbs of lean body mass on your frame at 20 yrs old.

Thats 2.21 lbs for every inch in height.

Compare with some of the guys at my gym whove been training without any juice and for about a year to 15 months...they typically have between 2.3 and 2.6 lbs LBM per inch of height and none of them will be going on anything anytime soon cause they are simply not ready.

Put another 20 lbs LBM on your frame clean first. With that will come another 5-8 lbs of fat so you'll tip the scales at around 200lbs with 170 or so LBM (2.5 or so lbs LBM / inch in height.)

Might take 2 or 3 years to do this but fuck it, your first cycle will then take you to 215 - 225 offseason which gives you a chance to COMPETE at 205-ish and extremely lean. Right now you'll do your cycle and be lucky to diet down to 185. Waste.

Cheers anyway,

Gav.

 

[rjx]

Sweet advice

 

[ramboj70]

Sweet advice

bro this is your first cycle,I think you have a good cycle, stay with it the way you have it but i would increase from 10 weeks to 12 weeks, and keep nova on hand, sonce it is first cycle get some blood work done to see how your levels are, you will have some really good gaines, also becarful what you eat, shit your BF% is already up. you could even run some winny in at the end, the last 40 days at 50mg a day, will help keep most of gaines and get your body to harden up.

 

[Deacon]

I agree that you should run it 12 weeks and actually run the test 13 weeks - one past the deca to help set up pct and lessen the crash

 

[Mordecai]

I agree that you should run it 12 weeks and actually run the test 13 weeks - one past the deca to help set up pct and lessen the crash

Thanks for the advice guys. I would do it for 12 maybe....but only got 10 wks worth at this amount (500mg/300mg)

 

[superman15]

hey keep us posted on your results too.

 

[Mordecai]

i will.


Another quick Q.....i got my hands on some anabol....got a good deal, couldnt pass em up. (anabols)

Should i take these or not? If so how wk 1-4 15mg/ed sound just as a bump start?

Also some people have told me to run some hcg mid cycle, how does that sound?