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[pumpingiron22]

Steroid use soars among young men
Steroids have become the drug of choice for people who start injecting illicit substances, eclipsing methamphetamines and heroin in popularity among young men.

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Almost three-quarters of new users in NSW took performance- and image-enhancing drugs, predominantly steroids, according to the latest Australian Needle Syringe Program survey. Demand among young men wanting rapid muscle gain has tripled in the past decade, sparking alarm about the health risks of steroids, including increased violence by some users.
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Concerns were highlighted on Sunday when police reported finding 13 vials of steroids at the Kingswood home of Corey Beard, 21, after he allegedly attacked 19-year-old Alexander McEwen, putting him in a coma.
"Steroid use is creeping more and more into younger people," said the president of the Australian Medical Association, Steve Hambleton. "It comes with this wish to win at all costs and to attain the perfect body immediately. We worry about our girls with body image but it is just as much young men we need to worry about now."


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[Big_paul]

Steroid use soars among young men
Steroids have become the drug of choice for people who start injecting illicit substances, eclipsing methamphetamines and heroin in popularity among young men.

PM sick of 'cowards'
Prime Minister Tony Abbott pens an open letter condemning alcohol-fuelled violence. Nine News.
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Almost three-quarters of new users in NSW took performance- and image-enhancing drugs, predominantly steroids, according to the latest Australian Needle Syringe Program survey. Demand among young men wanting rapid muscle gain has tripled in the past decade, sparking alarm about the health risks of steroids, including increased violence by some users.
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Concerns were highlighted on Sunday when police reported finding 13 vials of steroids at the Kingswood home of Corey Beard, 21, after he allegedly attacked 19-year-old Alexander McEwen, putting him in a coma.
"Steroid use is creeping more and more into younger people," said the president of the Australian Medical Association, Steve Hambleton. "It comes with this wish to win at all costs and to attain the perfect body immediately. We worry about our girls with body image but it is just as much young men we need to worry about now."


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thats a move in the right direction.i was smoking coke in my late 20's gave it up for aas and caring about my health.

 

[Nathaniel]

Steroids have become the drug of choice for people who start injecting illicit substances, eclipsing methamphetamines and heroin in popularity among young men.

Shouldn't this be considered a good thing? :-bd

Demand among young men wanting rapid muscle gain has tripled in the past decade, sparking alarm about the health
risks of steroids, including increased violence by some users.

It's funny how our government believes that the best way to deal with such "health risks" is prohibition, rather than education.

Concerns were highlighted on Sunday when police reported finding 13 vials of steroids at the Kingswood home of Corey Beard, 21, after he allegedly attacked 19-year-old Alexander McEwen, putting him in a coma.

Apparently he also had water on tap. I'm pretty concerned about the role that water might have had on his violence. One of the most frustrating thing about prohibited substances, is that because of their illegality, their use usually only comes to light within a negative context, because all of those people people out there who use steroids but are upstanding members of society, don't come out into the open about it. Just because the media has painted steroids as a bogeyman, now whenever people see steroids related to violence they think: "the picture fits!" not realising that it's their messed up view of reality that's causing them to make that link. Perhaps his violence could've been due to his love of boxing?

Maybe it could've even been due to alcohol? (dun dun dun)

Sometimes I feel like a broken record, but it still blows my mind that people don't get that prohibition never has worked, it probably never will work, and it's certainly not working now.

If the government actually wants to walk their talk, they need to ban advertising featuring models who have been using steroids, because that's what's causing the altered standards of these men. But how the fuck are you going to do that? In all honesty, is a substance that allows men to more effectively pursue a lifestyle that is (usually) focused around health and fitness such a bad thing?

The hypocrisy because overwhelming when you consider that tobacco and alcohol are legal. Cancer-causing, brain-damaging, violence inducing, rational thinking inhibiting and literally toxic and poisonous substances are allowed, but if young guys want to improve their bodies? Oh hell no!

 

[tipdog]

This is an absurd perspective on what fuels fights. I've seen plenty of fights started at the RSL clubs from people drinking bunderburg rum. Hell, even security is alerted to watch people closely who have been drinking bunderburg rum. I bet that will never be made illegal, it generates too much tax money.

 

[element00]

If you were a cynic you'd say that the liquor industry has a vested interested in ensuring that government turned their attention away from media hyped alcohol related violence and found something else to blame. But only if you were a cynic

 

[Millard]

One of the most frustrating thing about prohibited substances, is that because of their illegality, their use usually only comes to light within a negative context, because all of those people people out there who use steroids but are upstanding members of society, don't come out into the open about it. Just because the media has painted steroids as a bogeyman, now whenever people see steroids related to violence they think: "the picture fits!" not realising that it's their messed up view of reality that's causing them to make that link. Perhaps his violence could've been due to his love of boxing?

Maybe it could've even been due to alcohol? (dun dun dun)

Sometimes I feel like a broken record, but it still blows my mind that people don't get that prohibition never has worked, it probably never will work, and it's certainly not working now.

If the government actually wants to walk their talk, they need to ban advertising featuring models who have been using steroids, because that's what's causing the altered standards of these men. But how the fuck are you going to do that? In all honesty, is a substance that allows men to more effectively pursue a lifestyle that is (usually) focused around health and fitness such a bad thing?

The hypocrisy because overwhelming when you consider that tobacco and alcohol are legal. Cancer-causing, brain-damaging, violence inducing, rational thinking inhibiting and literally toxic and poisonous substances are allowed, but if young guys want to improve their bodies? Oh hell no!

Excellent commentary :-bd

 

[Nathaniel]

Why aren't steroid manufacturers lobbying the government? Surely the government realises the sweet tax dollars they could milk if they'd just allowed regulated steroid use. I'm sure a lot more people would use it if it wasn't so damn hard to get here, and given the inflated prices that the market is currently paying, the government could skim a fair chunk of that in taxation.

 

[Millard]

Why aren't steroid manufacturers lobbying the government? Surely the government realises the sweet tax dollars they could milk if they'd just allowed regulated steroid use. I'm sure a lot more people would use it if it wasn't so damn hard to get here, and given the inflated prices that the market is currently paying, the government could skim a fair chunk of that in taxation.

Non-medical steroid users are largely without representation. "Anabolic steroids" have been and continue to be conspicuously absent from the agenda of most major drug law reform organizations. We can speculate as to why this is the case.

 

[element00]

Most governments aren't in the business of developing policy and legislation based on evidence. Damn, that just gets in the way of votes

 

[Millard]

Look what happened when the State of Colorado legalized the recreational sale of marijuana:

In Colorado, where recreational sales began on Jan. 1 with hourlong waits, a budget proposal from Gov. John W. Hickenlooper estimated that the state’s marijuana industry could reach $1 billion in sales in the next fiscal year, with recreational sales making up about $610 million of that business.

“It’s well on its way to being a billion-dollar industry,” said Michael Elliott, executive director of the Marijuana Industry Group, a Colorado trade association. “We went from 110,000 medical marijuana patients to four billion people in the world who are 21 and up.”

In the budget proposal that Mr. Hickenlooper released Wednesday, his office said the state could collect about $134 million in taxes from recreational and medical marijuana for the fiscal year beginning in July. He proposed to spend $99 million on programs including substance-abuse treatment, preventing marijuana use by children and teenagers, public health and law enforcement.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/u...p-tax-bonanza-from-legal-marijuana-sales.html

 

[BR1217]

Shouldn't this be considered a good thing? :-bd



It's funny how our government believes that the best way to deal with such "health risks" is prohibition, rather than education.



Apparently he also had water on tap. I'm pretty concerned about the role that water might have had on his violence. One of the most frustrating thing about prohibited substances, is that because of their illegality, their use usually only comes to light within a negative context, because all of those people people out there who use steroids but are upstanding members of society, don't come out into the open about it. Just because the media has painted steroids as a bogeyman, now whenever people see steroids related to violence they think: "the picture fits!" not realising that it's their messed up view of reality that's causing them to make that link. Perhaps his violence could've been due to his love of boxing?

Maybe it could've even been due to alcohol? (dun dun dun)

Sometimes I feel like a broken record, but it still blows my mind that people don't get that prohibition never has worked, it probably never will work, and it's certainly not working now.

If the government actually wants to walk their talk, they need to ban advertising featuring models who have been using steroids, because that's what's causing the altered standards of these men. But how the fuck are you going to do that? In all honesty, is a substance that allows men to more effectively pursue a lifestyle that is (usually) focused around health and fitness such a bad thing?

The hypocrisy because overwhelming when you consider that tobacco and alcohol are legal. Cancer-causing, brain-damaging, violence inducing, rational thinking inhibiting and literally toxic and poisonous substances are allowed, but if young guys want to improve their bodies? Oh hell no!

Unfortunately prohibition in any form has never been about protecting citizens from the Weed Demon (check out weed demon videos, hilarious) or the Steroid Demon, its been about money, period. Prohibition is just another tool used to by the government to fleece citizens.

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[Oregongearhead]

Its soaring with old men too . My TRT test-c is backlogged every month at Walgreens , they say they cant keep it in stock. Wal-marts is the same way.....

 

[Nathaniel]

Non-medical steroid users are largely without representation. "Anabolic steroids" have been and continue to be conspicuously absent from the agenda of most major drug law reform organizations. We can speculate as to why this is the case.

Can we speculate? Does anybody have any ideas as to why this is the case? Why Why are non-medical steroid users largely without representation, and why has AAS been absent from drug law reform groups? More importantly, is there anything we can do about it?

Personally, I don't know how much there is that can be done about it, given the degree to which the majority of the population have been brainwashed, it takes a very long time to alter that perception, the fact that Cannabis is still illegal here is a testament to that. The Cannabis legalisation movement has gained a fair bit of steam, I think that it is more likely to be legalised soon over AAS. For this reason, I kinda feel like a "one step at a time" approach is important. After Cannabis has been legalised, people will see that society didn't collapse under a cloud of purple haze, and may be more open to having their mind changed about other substances also. Plus, once Cannabis has been legalised, a lot of those involved in the push for legalisation will start looking for the next substance to fill that hole left in their lives by pot's legalisation. Also, those who would push for AAS legalisation but are presently putting their eggs into the MJ basket will be able to focus instead on AAS.

What do you guys think? I understand that this is pretty pointless stuff to be discussing at this point, but I'm just interested to hear your opinions on the situation.

 

[Millard]

Can we speculate? Does anybody have any ideas as to why this is the case? Why Why are non-medical steroid users largely without representation, and why has AAS been absent from drug law reform groups? More importantly, is there anything we can do about it?

My top two hypotheses:

(1) Most people don't have principled stance against prohibition. While they say they support drug law reform, they really are only against prohibition for certain drugs usually marijuana.

Most people are only against prohibition for drugs that they have used. The legalization of recreational marijuana in Washington and Colorado did NOT happen because people are against prohibition. It's because the overwhelming majority of the population has used pot and they know the reefer madness is bullshit. (Theoretically, they should be more likely to see the case for other drugs e.g. beefer madness = bullshit.)

2) People have never really left high school - it's still the pothead geeks versus the roidhead jocks. It's the geeks that are ruling the world and consequently primarily influencing drug law reform. Why would they help their old high school nemeses?

Secondarily, this reflects a "fear of muscle". Given all the negative stereotypes associated with bodybuilders, the fear of a muscular individual may be much greater than fear of an intoxicated individual.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Beefer. Madness thats a good one Millard!

 

[Millard]

Beefer. Madness thats a good one Millard!

It's not mine. I think Rick Collins first coined the phrase in an article for MD.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Hey Millard you have a pm from me.

 

[Nathaniel]

(1) Most people don't have principled stance against prohibition. While they say they support drug law reform, they really are only against prohibition for certain drugs usually marijuana.

I agree, this is why it's important to focus on the philosophical and logical reasons behind the problem. Get to the core of it, and it's about prohibition being flawed. This would be far more effective than just targeting individual drugs, one at a time, and would probably garner more support because it'd be drawing people from a larger base.

Most people are only against prohibition for drugs that they have used. The legalization of recreational marijuana in Washington and Colorado did NOT happen because people are against prohibition. It's because the overwhelming majority of the population has used pot and they know the reefer madness is bullshit. (Theoretically, they should be more likely to see the case for other drugs e.g. beefer madness = bullshit.)

I agree again, you're right on the money. This is another problem, because it means that the harder a drug is to get, the slower public opinion on it changes, because less and less of a population is able to get access to it, and have their own experiences with it and draw their own conclusions. Instead, they rely on the media to tell them. I think one of the biggest reasons why pot is at the top of the legalisation list is because, it's so easy to grow and distribute. It's a plant, it produces seeds, and depending on the quality you want, it's not hard to grow.

This means that lots of people get to try it, and see for themselves: "oh, all those horrible things that the government told me would happen to me if I did this didn't happen at all..." then they look a little deeper and realise that the motivations for these laws isn't based on morality or reason. If only producing and distributing steroids was that easy.

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Secondarily, this reflects a "fear of muscle". Given all the negative stereotypes associated with bodybuilders, the fear of a muscular individual may be much greater than fear of an intoxicated individual.

Fear of muscle? I can understand this on an individual level, but as a whole, it would seem that society loves muscle, and is in fact pretty obsessed with it. Just look at the movie stars, models, atheletes, performers, porn stars etc. We're pretty much constantly told that: "more muscle=better". So, I don't think it's a fear of muscle, I think it's a fear of competition. I think it's that the majority of people don't have what it takes to reach peak levels of fitness, and they don't like the idea of other people having what they might see as an unfair advantage over them, especially in an area that society keeps telling us is important (physical appearance). Because they can't get steroids, they don't feel that anybody else should be able to have them either, because that would be allowing their competition an advantage over them.

It's like, the majority of people are weak, and rather than think: "I should make myself strong!" they think: "I want everybody else to be as weak as me." Sadly, in a democracy, majority rules.