Steroids and antidepressants

[Thegreek]

I was wondering if any of you guys are running trt or full cycles while taking any type of ssri snri tca maoi. Pretty much any kind of antidepressant or mood elevator. I’ve used the gym for so long to help get through some of the personal shit I’ve gone through. For a while now though I just don’t get the same relief it used to provide. I’ve been in this funk now and can’t seem to shake it. Blood work is good. Nothing crazy hormonally going with test or estrogen. I run trt around 700 or so. When I blast I’m maybe double that using one or two other compounds. Mentally no difference on trt or a cycle. This isn’t something new for me. It’s been like this my whole life so I’m pretty confident it’s not steroids. I’m 42 and I’m kinda just tired of feeling this way all the time. I’m not bed ridden with depression. It’s not like that. It’s just this funk that I can’t seem to shake. I’m thinking about trying some sort of chemical but I was curious if there would be an interaction with the test or other compounds. I’d really appreciate any first hand experience. I know it’s a little personal but there really isn’t any where I can go to talk to people like us. Thanks for any info you guys can offer.

 

[kinistone]

Go to your GP and have them refer you to someone. In some instances your GP may even prescribe something. Just start with your GP.

 

[Thegreek]

Go to your GP and have them refer you to someone. In some instances your GP may even prescribe something. Just start with your GP.

Thank you but I know the process. My question was anyone taking some sort of antidepressant along with steroids. Considering both play a big role in hormones and mood I was wondering if anyone had experience taking them together. To answer your post more specifically though. I wouldn’t go to a GP for mental health issues or drugs. I’d go right to a psychiatrist. No disrespect but that’s like going to a mom and pop auto shop when you blew your transmission. I’d feel more comfortable bringing it to a transmission specialist.

 

[HorseManBaby]

I've been on trt for several years and started taking Zoloft a bit over a year ago. Since getting on Zoloft I've felt the best I have for as long as I can remember. I asked my endo about it before and they said there shouldn't be any interactions.

I blasted 500mg test for 4 months this year and still felt great, maybe even slightly better than at cruise.

If you're feeling like shit, I say give antidepressants a try. You'll know pretty quick if they're not for you, and if you can tough out any sides you might get then you could potentially feel a lot better in a few months. It doesn't happen quick for most people.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Describe the funk? Is it caused by circumstance? Or do you believe the circumstances doesn't warrant such a level of funk? The reason for this specific question is to try to gauge if you actually have a chemical imbalance or not. Happiness is very important and if you need antidepressants to experience that, than you should take that route. Also keep in mind that antidepressants make the list of top prescription types that cause weight gain and they are closely associated with erectile dysfunction. So you may be happy, fat, and limp.

 

[Thegreek]

I've been on trt for several years and started taking Zoloft a bit over a year ago. Since getting on Zoloft I've felt the best I have for as long as I can remember. I asked my endo about it before and they said there shouldn't be any interactions.

I blasted 500mg test for 4 months this year and still felt great, maybe even slightly better than at cruise.

If you're feeling like shit, I say give antidepressants a try. You'll know pretty quick if they're not for you, and if you can tough out any sides you might get then you could potentially feel a lot better in a few months. It doesn't happen quick for most people.

@WeightLossBurn

Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback. I’m familiar with the potential sides and I realize the first one might not be the right one as well. As well as getting through whatever adjustment period. I’m glad that you feel you made the right choice. To be honest this is something I should have done a long time ago but i guess the ego in me always got the better of me and I just didn’t want to admit that maybe this was something I should do. Always had that don’t be a pussy mentality but I guess now that I’m older I’m seeing things differently. I still think men shouldn’t be pussies lol but who the fuck wants to be miserable all the time. Yes there are circumstances that are contributing to this but I feel like if I was in a better frame of mind then those circumstances wouldn’t be how I make them to be. If that makes sense. As far as weight gain goes I’m not worried. I have plenty of cialis lol and to be honest if I get the delayed orgasm side effect I wouldn’t complain lol.

 

[Jestopherson]

I use an anti anxieties. Only issue is the one I use can have a conflicting interaction with tamoxifen. I can't remember it exactly. But aside from that no issues. Just stay aware of how things affect you and don't start any cycles until you settle on a specific medication

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

My question was anyone taking some sort of antidepressant along with steroids

Within three months of starting trt I got off my SSRI and haven’t looked back. That was over four years ago now. I had been off and on various SSRI/SNRIs for 15 years before starting trt.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Pussies? For having the intellectual capability to realize when it's time to see somebody? I think based on your last post you are hinting at that at the moment you may have a chemical imbalance with the frame of mind comment. I respect that because you are being honest with yourself and that will lead you to get the right care.

A few things to note:

Don't shit on the idea of a general practitioner. It was a nurse practitioner that diagnosed my issue correctly and it took the mental health professionals a long time to get to that same conclusion.

The adjustment period is a shit show. Make sure if you start on antidepressants, you get anti anxiety meds in the beginning to help you past the hump. After a little while the ssri will fill the need of the anti anxiety meds and you won't need them anymore.

It may start as delayed ejaculation, but after sometime it may become worse than that. Even Cialis may not help, but not having sex on your mind can be liberating.

Some people say that they are able to keep gains when they are on AAS/PEDs. This information may also be relevant to SSRIs. They help you worry less about things and enjoy life more. When you come off of them negative thoughts don't infiltrate your head as hard. I don't know if it's a physical continuation of what they helped you with in the past. Or if it's simply you understanding better that these thoughts shouldn't bother you, as they didn't when you were on medication. But the reasoning doesn't matter. Just stating that they will help you and you won't be on them permanently.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Within three months of starting trt I got off my SSRI and haven’t looked back. That was over four years ago now. I had been off and on various SSRI/SNRIs for 15 years before starting trt.

@Iron_Yuppie to clarify, is that your way of saying that the testosterone had positive effects on your mental health? Because I do hear that is a thing as well.

 

[Thegreek]

Pussies? For having the intellectual capability to realize when it's time to see somebody? I think based on your last post you are hinting at that at the moment you may have a chemical imbalance with the frame of mind comment. I respect that because you are being honest with yourself and that will lead you to get the right care.

A few things to note:

Don't shit on the idea of a general practitioner. It was a nurse practitioner that diagnosed my issue correctly and it took the mental health professionals a long time to get to that same conclusion.

The adjustment period is a shit show. Make sure if you start on antidepressants, you get anti anxiety meds in the beginning to help you past the hump. After a little while the ssri will fill the need of the anti anxiety meds and you won't need them anymore.

It may start as delayed ejaculation, but after sometime it may become worse than that. Even Cialis may not help, but not having sex on your mind can be liberating.

Some people say that they are able to keep gains when they are on AAS/PEDs. This information may also be relevant to SSRIs. They help you worry less about things and enjoy life more. When you come off of them negative thoughts don't infiltrate your head as hard. I don't know if it's a physical continuation of what they helped you with in the past. Or if it's simply you understanding better that these thoughts shouldn't bother you, as they didn't when you were on medication. But the reasoning doesn't matter. Just stating that they will help you and you won't be on them permanently.

I’ve never taken anything before. That’s what I meant by the pussy comment. I always had the mentality of just tough it out. Whether it was physical or mental. I didn’t need something to help me push past whatever was in my way. I think I’ve just gotten to the point where it’s not about being tough or “a man”. It’s wanting to to just have a better quality of life. There are certain responsibilities that I have that I can’t get away from. So moving or leaving my job isn’t really an option. So I’m just trying to make the best of what I have. Which isn’t really that bad. It’s just this mindset that I have and I’m hoping that some sort of medicine could help me change that. To help come to terms with certain things and just an overall better sense of well being.

 

[Thegreek]

@Iron_Yuppie to clarify, is that your way of saying that the testosterone had positive effects on your mental health? Because I do hear that is a thing as well.

I can’t exactly speak for him but I’m pretty sure that’s what he means because there is definitely some truth to that. I can however speak for myself and I definitely feel better overall being on trt. I just think in my case there is room for improvement and if I’m willing to chemically change my physical self. I think I should be just as willing to chemically change my mental self. I was around 250-300 test before I ever started any kind of testosterone and there was a definite improvement in my sense of self after starting cycles and moving into trt. Like I said though. I think I’ve hit a point where I may be better than I was but I’m still not happy overall in my life. So I think I’d like to take steps to improve that.

 

[Mcflyfast]

Nothing wrong with taking a SSRI if needed.

I would suggest first getting in contact with a clinical psychologist and having them understand a little bit whats going on. Next, have them get in contact with a Psychiatrist if needed to put you on a form of therapy if your anxiety or some form of depression is too much to handle due to a chemical imbalance.

Erase that mindset or stigma that others say taking a SSRI means you are weak or whatever. I seen them change people's lives for the better as they work through talk therapy.

Also, yes it's true that some SSRI could diminish libido but not all. Actually, some guys complain about having no libido when in fact the imbalance of serotonin/dopamine caused by the depression is causing the loss of libido and when they start to get on a SSRI and feel better, some would blame the medication when it was already an issue to begin with.

The best course of action is working closely with a psychologist/Psychiatrist.

Once you are feeling better and get to the route to your situation you can process what is causing your "funk" and move on.

BTW, I agree with others, trt can definitely help you wean of SSRIs but don't use SSRIs by themselves with out seeing a psychologist and doing talk therapy. See them as a tool, use them to your advantage to figure out what is the underlying issue to get to the root and your "Funk" situation will go away.

Many stay on SSRIs for years because they don't rather use them to mask a situation then do the work with a psychologist to face the situation head on.

I can't tell you how many athletes take or have taken an SSRIs some point of their life (Logan Franklin, Ian Valliere, Fouad Abiad, Nick Trigilli....)

Stay safe and good luck brother.

 

[MANinTHEWALL]

What a mess of crybabies, can't handle life. Anyone remember what General Patton did to the crybaby?

 

[WeightLossBurn]

I'm starting to realize that @MANinTHEWALL is a troll.

 

[MANinTHEWALL]

Click this on >>>>Guess testosterone and muscles doesn't make a real man. Click that on, check out how Patton dealt with wimps.

 

[Jack_b]

I'm taking venlafaxine at 200mg per day, if I don'tI get a massive headache towards the end of the day.

However......

If I take modafanil at 200mg per day in the morning I "forget" meaning my body is not aware.

Meds are fucked up, I'm all up for experiments but WTF is that all about

 

[nealcaffrey16]

Western medicine failed me for years (MDD). Try Cerebrolysin. You can order it domestic from Cosmic Nootropic, pharma direct from Everpharma. Saved my life, use it every day still since 2013. I can expand more if there's interest, but will take me a day or so.

 

[nealcaffrey16]

I should clarify, I absolutely condone going through a psychiatrist and therapist first. I did (many) as well. my case was a hard one, but cerebro was my solution.

 

[Iamnatty]

Western medicine failed me for years (MDD). Try Cerebrolysin. You can order it domestic from Cosmic Nootropic, pharma direct from Everpharma. Saved my life, use it every day still since 2013. I can expand more if there's interest, but will take me a day or so.

Well come on then