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WeightLossBurn said:
Everyone responds to supplements differently. So take this information with a grain of salt. I've tried samE orally in the past. Didn't do much for me. I always thought St Johns Wort worked great, it has a side effect of sensitive/itchy eyes. Tyrosine and 5-htp is pretty dope(amine), see what I did there?
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I’m open to all suggestions. Even going as so far to do an independent study of anally administrating supps lol. See what I did there.
 
TrenTrenTren living up so beautifully to the username....

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(i have no objection to most of what he wrote, btw. different stages of life proved me wrong when I was once in his shoes as well.)

I would avoid SSRIs like the plague. Try Memantine if your psych is progressive enough to do it. otherwise an SNRI might work. or Cerebro. Sam-e is like 0.5/10 effectiveness in my experience. I'd take Lithium Orotate (OTC stuff) before I bothered with SAM-e again.

the fact that you're willingly facing things is such a positive sign though. you have an advantage already in that you're a) able to see you need help and b) already out seeking help. as much as I laugh at and went to battle a bit with adam, he and Tren are right in what they say.

bottom line, if you are recognizing that change is needed, then you know that best. listen to your gut. a lot of what comes with age is truly learning to do that. well, age/maturity/experience anyway. get to a doc, and DON'T settle for a boilerplate response. if they aren't fuckin' listening to you, get a new doc. don't settle for shit.
 
nealcaffrey16 said:
TrenTrenTren living up so beautifully to the username....

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(i have no objection to most of what he wrote, btw. different stages of life proved me wrong when I was once in his shoes as well.)

I would avoid SSRIs like the plague. Try Memantine if your psych is progressive enough to do it. otherwise an SNRI might work. or Cerebro. Sam-e is like 0.5/10 effectiveness in my experience. I'd take Lithium Orotate (OTC stuff) before I bothered with SAM-e again.

the fact that you're willingly facing things is such a positive sign though. you have an advantage already in that you're a) able to see you need help and b) already out seeking help. as much as I laugh at and went to battle a bit with adam, he and Tren are right in what they say.

bottom line, if you are recognizing that change is needed, then you know that best. listen to your gut. a lot of what comes with age is truly learning to do that. well, age/maturity/experience anyway. get to a doc, and DON'T settle for a boilerplate response. if they aren't fuckin' listening to you, get a new doc. don't settle for shit.
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Yeah, this is a great response and proof that everyone's chemistry is different. Neal and I are in agreement about SamE. I forgot about Lithium Orotate, but that too was great. It just has a calm, level headed effect. I hated SNRIs, which is ironic because most people recommend it. The one thing I do remember about SNRIs is they are hard to get off of. As you are ready to get off of them by lowering your dose, you will feel brain zaps when you turn your head. Literally a slight electrocution feeling. Read about that, pretty interesting.
 
yeah to be clear I hate pretty much all of standard-issue psych stuff, but I am trying to not paint my experience as everyone else's. Lithium Orotate is found naturally in Scandinavian water supplies and shockingly (!!!!!) they have the generally happiest population. just grab some of that and try it. works pretty instantly too.
 
Thegreek said:
I was wondering if any of you guys are running trt or full cycles while taking any type of ssri snri tca maoi. Pretty much any kind of antidepressant or mood elevator. I’ve used the gym for so long to help get through some of the personal shit I’ve gone through. For a while now though I just don’t get the same relief it used to provide. I’ve been in this funk now and can’t seem to shake it. Blood work is good. Nothing crazy hormonally going with test or estrogen. I run trt around 700 or so. When I blast I’m maybe double that using one or two other compounds. Mentally no difference on trt or a cycle. This isn’t something new for me. It’s been like this my whole life so I’m pretty confident it’s not steroids. I’m 42 and I’m kinda just tired of feeling this way all the time. I’m not bed ridden with depression. It’s not like that. It’s just this funk that I can’t seem to shake. I’m thinking about trying some sort of chemical but I was curious if there would be an interaction with the test or other compounds. I’d really appreciate any first hand experience. I know it’s a little personal but there really isn’t any where I can go to talk to people like us. Thanks for any info you guys can offer.
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I would highly reccomend you try Wellbutrin. It is not an ssri, so no sexual sides, and has almost no recorded side effects overall. It has helped me tremendously, although it has been essential to also continue with personal growth, therapy, exercise, and other self care/maintenance. Best of luck to you.
 
Thegreek said:
I was wondering if any of you guys are running trt or full cycles while taking any type of ssri snri tca maoi. Pretty much any kind of antidepressant or mood elevator. I’ve used the gym for so long to help get through some of the personal shit I’ve gone through. For a while now though I just don’t get the same relief it used to provide. I’ve been in this funk now and can’t seem to shake it. Blood work is good. Nothing crazy hormonally going with test or estrogen. I run trt around 700 or so. When I blast I’m maybe double that using one or two other compounds. Mentally no difference on trt or a cycle. This isn’t something new for me. It’s been like this my whole life so I’m pretty confident it’s not steroids. I’m 42 and I’m kinda just tired of feeling this way all the time. I’m not bed ridden with depression. It’s not like that. It’s just this funk that I can’t seem to shake. I’m thinking about trying some sort of chemical but I was curious if there would be an interaction with the test or other compounds. I’d really appreciate any first hand experience. I know it’s a little personal but there really isn’t any where I can go to talk to people like us. Thanks for any info you guys can offer.
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So, the issue with AAS and depression isn't so much when you're on cycle, the issue is when you come off you're going from like 700mg/week of androgens to zero, and that'll cause depression as well as exacerbate a pre-existing issue with depression. People have killed themselves after doing so. Many people, in fact.
 
hometeam said:
So, the issue with AAS and depression isn't so much when you're on cycle, the issue is when you come off you're going from like 700mg/week of androgens to zero, and that'll cause depression as well as exacerbate a pre-existing issue with depression. People have killed themselves after doing so. Many people, in fact.
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Thank you but that’s not it. I’m on trt and I cycle throughout the year a few times. Nothing crazy with doses or compounds. More often than not it doesn’t matter in regards to how I feel.
 
Glad to see grown men can discuss depression here on the board. 20 years ago no one would mention depression or admit to taking anti-depressants.

I'm all for medication. After trying several it was EFFEXOR that pulled me out of that dark pit. I thought about trying to wean myself off but cant do it. I feel great, health is good so why fuck up a good thing. Plus a side effect is prolonged ejaculation! Maybe not for everyone but it worked for me.
 
cigardave007 said:
Glad to see grown men can discuss depression here on the board. 20 years ago no one would mention depression or admit to taking anti-depressants.

I'm all for medication. After trying several it was EFFEXOR that pulled me out of that dark pit. I thought about trying to wean myself off but cant do it. I feel great, health is good so why fuck up a good thing. Plus a side effect is prolonged ejaculation! Maybe not for everyone but it worked for me.
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Cialis gives me the worst prolonged ejaculations. It's like I'm so hard that I lose sensitivity in my shaft! When I take too much, I'm pounding away like a jackhammer and I can't feel anything!
 
nealcaffrey16 said:
is that not the Tren bro? ^ quite certain that's a listed effect.

edit - joking, I am sure you're not on Tren 24/7 lol.
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Really...tren has never affected me in the dick department like it does some guys. Guess I'm lucky there. 60mg of cialis makes me stay hard but not ejaculate for an hour. By then, she's either rolling her eyes, or sleeping. But I got to get that nut bro...
 
Also im prescribed Alprozo (Xanax). I use when tren sides start affecting my relationship. Benzo withdrawal is definitely not some to fuck with though. Tren Rage + WD = fucking disastrous.
 
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