Steroids are dangerous and if you plan to stop AAS, do not Blast & Cruise BrO.

[Henchus maximus98736]

Little heads up to all Noobs.

 

[narta]

AAS are not dangerous. Irresponsible usage is dangerous as with all medication.

Just a heads up to all the "experts"

 

[Henchus maximus98736]

exactly.

Hence the blast and cruise bit.

Talking from experience narta bro. To come off a merry go round of that is ridiculous.

 

[DECLAN]

You know what's more dangerous, driving, check out the death rate, way worse than blasting and cruising.

Just kidding, I just don't understand these kinds of general advices.

 

[Smashshit]

 

[Demondosage]

I have a different theory, it goes something like this ;

Don’t use AAS if you ever plan on stopping AAS, don’t even use them one time! You’ll be behind the 8 ball when you discontinue the cycle and probably worse than if you had just stayed natural. If you are not open to the idea of testosterone replacement therapy and feeling like a God amongst men in your 30’s, 40’s and beyond, then don’t even use AAS even one time! Thankfully I discovered TRT and was open to it since I used numerous cycles and I know my life is better than your average dude with a gut, diminished levels and no performance in the bedroom

 

[Henchus maximus98736]

Couldn’t have said it better.

 

[kosp]

I have a different theory, it goes something like this ;

Don’t use AAS if you ever plan on stopping AAS, don’t even use them one time! You’ll be behind the 8 ball when you discontinue the cycle and probably worse than if you had just stayed natural. If you are not open to the idea of testosterone replacement therapy and feeling like a God amongst men in your 30’s, 40’s and beyond, then don’t even use AAS even one time! Thankfully I discovered TRT and was open to it since I used numerous cycles and I know my life is better than your average dude with a gut, diminished levels and no performance in the bedroom

Yeah? is it all that good? I don´t think so, all that glitters is not gold.

Later comes the E2 maladjustment, infertility, testicular atrophy, the need to buy other drugs to keep hormones balanced, nasty drugs like Anastrozole.

The need to do bloodwork a lot more regularly than normal people. the money, the pins... it is a big burden for a lifetime.

And when you got very old? what´s up?

This forum is full of threads of dead dicks on TRT, TRT Cholesterol, TRT E2 issues, etc.

 

[Rido]

Yeah? is it all that good? I don´t think so, all that glitters is not gold.

Later comes the E2 maladjustment, infertility, testicular atrophy, the need to buy other drugs to keep hormones balanced, nasty drugs like Anastrozole.

The need to do bloodwork a lot more regularly than normal people. the money, the pins... it is a big burden for a lifetime.

And when you got very old? what´s up?

This forum is full of threads of dead dicks on TRT, TRT Cholesterol, TRT E2 issues, etc.

If you are on TRT and you don't have issues/changes why would I do bloodwork more frequently?

There are plenty of dead dicks from people who are post blast. The blood work is associated with cycles for the most part.


There will always be more complain posts than people that are running smoothly.

Pins are cheap and eventually we will go down the doctor route.

When we hit 45-50 we will naturally hit andropause regardless.


My natural test was 460 and I said fuck this. Went to a doctor to start TRT

 

[kosp]

If you are on TRT and you don't have issues/changes why would I do bloodwork more frequently?

There are plenty of dead dicks from people who are post blast. The blood work is associated with cycles for the most part.


There will always be more complain posts than people that are running smoothly.

Pins are cheap and eventually we will go down the doctor route.

When we hit 45-50 we will naturally hit andropause regardless.


My natural test was 460 and I said fuck this. Went to a doctor to start TRT

If you had 460, by all means, go TRT and enjoy life better, I meant for normal natty TT levels. It is an huge decision.

 

[Tinknocker]

If you are on TRT and you don't have issues/changes why would I do bloodwork more frequently?

There are plenty of dead dicks from people who are post blast. The blood work is associated with cycles for the most part.


There will always be more complain posts than people that are running smoothly.

Pins are cheap and eventually we will go down the doctor route.

When we hit 45-50 we will naturally hit andropause regardless.


My natural test was 460 and I said fuck this. Went to a doctor to start TRT

Any idea what minimum test score is at trt clinics to be prescribed test? On quest blood work the “normal range” is 250-1100. It’s age dependent I’m sure as a 460 for someone in their 20’s would be fuckin horrible.

 

[Rido]

Any idea what minimum test score is at trt clinics to be prescribed test? On quest blood work the “normal range” is 250-1100. It’s age dependent I’m sure as a 460 for someone in their 20’s would be fuckin horrible.

Sub 500 typically.
There is also the "optimization" talk. That you want to be optimal.

 

[Rido]

If you had 460, by all means, go TRT and enjoy life better, I meant for normal natty TT levels. It is an huge decision.

Yes. My point is the financial burden is not as bad as you think it is. Legit TRT in general can be less than 250 a year.
If you have to pay cash for bloods maybe 400? Otherwise insurance will handle it

 

[kosp]

Yes. My point is the financial burden is not as bad as you think it is. Legit TRT in general can be less than 250 a year.
If you have to pay cash for bloods maybe 400? Otherwise insurance will handle it

And is it hard to find the "perfect dosage" that will keep your E2 in sweet spot and only thing you have to do is pin your test and not taking anything else? Or you have to be readjusting all over the years?

 

[kosp]

I read once that

Test+hgh+hcg is the ultimate stack you can take forever and have much better quality of life.

 

[Rido]

And is it hard to find the "perfect dosage" that will keep your E2 in sweet spot and only thing you have to do is pin your test and not taking anything else? Or you have to be readjusting all over the years?

Nah. It's horse shit. People complain too much. Your body wasn't at a constant flow of test prior to TRT, why is it necessary now?

 

[Demondosage]

Yeah? is it all that good? I don´t think so, all that glitters is not gold.

Later comes the E2 maladjustment, infertility, testicular atrophy, the need to buy other drugs to keep hormones balanced, nasty drugs like Anastrozole.

The need to do bloodwork a lot more regularly than normal people. the money, the pins... it is a big burden for a lifetime.

And when you got very old? what´s up?

This forum is full of threads of dead dicks on TRT, TRT Cholesterol, TRT E2 issues, etc.

Are you on TRT? Are you speaking from experience or just speculation? Take the average middle aged male with shit test levels and I’m pretty sure his quality of life sucks more than someone on TRT who is getting labs done regularly. Not everyone on TRT needs AI’s, I usually take none and my estradiol is in range with 200mg/wk testosterone. Let’s not even talk about sex drive, depression, idiots getting stuck on anti anxiety meds and antidepressants because they’re not addressing the real problem. Bodyfat that seems impossible to lose no matter how hard you work out and no matter what kind of deficit. Money for labs? Hahaha, it’s called insurance and it covers labs and I pay a whopping $9 a month for my test script. Yea, the inconvenience of labs once every 6 months and those expensive syringes for $20 a box. Oh yea, it’s so rough let me tell ya

 

[Rido]

Are you on TRT? Are you speaking from experience or just speculation? Take the average middle aged male with shit test levels and I’m pretty sure his quality of life sucks more than someone on TRT who is getting labs done regularly. Not everyone on TRT needs AI’s, I usually take none and my estradiol is in range with 200mg/wk testosterone. Let’s not even talk about sex drive, depression, idiots getting stuck on anti anxiety meds and antidepressants because they’re not addressing the real problem. Bodyfat that seems impossible to lose no matter how hard you work out and no matter what kind of deficit. Money for labs? Hahaha, it’s called insurance and it covers labs and I pay a whopping $9 a month for my test script. Yea, the inconvenience of labs once every 6 months and those expensive syringes for $20 a box. Oh yea, it’s so rough let me tell ya

Btw. Insurance should cover the syringes. Ask your doctor to prescribe them. They can send it out to a pharmacy

 

[Demondosage]

Btw. Insurance should cover the syringes. Ask your doctor to prescribe them. They can send it out to a pharmacy

Awesome