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Grizzly
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As has been stated, the president has little control over the economy.
Plus, the recession started under Clinton. As did the tanking of the markets. So dont give me this shit that its Bush's fault. Not saying that its really Clinton's fault either, as the president doesnt have a great deal of effect on the overall economy. Now, Mr Greenspan (who I think is a financial god) on the other hand...
I really stirred it up didnt I?
For those of you against welfare, God help you if you ever fall on hard times. Because he will be the only one that will. I believe in welfare, I also believe it should be as hard to get as a building permit.
I am tired of watching American dollars go overseas. I believe in some form of worldwide presence/peacemaking/killing terrorists/etc, but I think there are enough people in the US struggling to make ends meet/survive that should take priority.
Leave the steroid users alone Bush! Bigger biceps is not a crime! How Bush can piss and moan about drug use is beyond me when he spent half his days in college coked up, smoked up, and drunk? Fuck him!
And you fucking republicans, stop bitching about Clinton. Jesus, so he cheated on his wife, so did damn near the rest of America - and the guys that did all probably fucked someone better looking then what ass he could pull!
For those of you that say I shouldnt vote, fuck off! It is a free country, or at least it was until Bush was elected. Biggest fucking scam that was getting him into office....
That's my 2 cents and if you dont like it and cant handle it, tough fucking luck!
For those of you against welfare, God help you if you ever fall on hard times. Because he will be the only one that will. I believe in welfare, I also believe it should be as hard to get as a building permit.
I am tired of watching American dollars go overseas. I believe in some form of worldwide presence/peacemaking/killing terrorists/etc, but I think there are enough people in the US struggling to make ends meet/survive that should take priority.
Leave the steroid users alone Bush! Bigger biceps is not a crime! How Bush can piss and moan about drug use is beyond me when he spent half his days in college coked up, smoked up, and drunk? Fuck him!
And you fucking republicans, stop bitching about Clinton. Jesus, so he cheated on his wife, so did damn near the rest of America - and the guys that did all probably fucked someone better looking then what ass he could pull!
For those of you that say I shouldnt vote, fuck off! It is a free country, or at least it was until Bush was elected. Biggest fucking scam that was getting him into office....
That's my 2 cents and if you dont like it and cant handle it, tough fucking luck!
sc
now mr bush and your god mr greenspan are are cutting military benifits and v.a benifits, and last week announsed they were gonna have to cut social secerity benifits,, well my mom and dad get ss and they have a hard time making it as it is. we need a pres that will say fuck china.. and to chris the cartoon gordan im 41, older and wiser so shut up son.
now mr bush and your god mr greenspan are are cutting military benifits and v.a benifits, and last week announsed they were gonna have to cut social secerity benifits,, well my mom and dad get ss and they have a hard time making it as it is. we need a pres that will say fuck china.. and to chris the cartoon gordan im 41, older and wiser so shut up son.
fuck you then old ass
Shaboz, let me clarify my last statement. I dont think that welfare (or SS) should be eliminated, but I do think it should be much more difficult to get. IMO, if you dont do job training, a part time job, or other work, then you get no welfare. Plain and simple. I would model it after the Wisconsin workfare system.
Redneck, Greenspan's statement of cutting/reducing SS was the best news I got that day. I've already debated this topic with many people on this board, so I dont really feel like going into all the details. Ill just say that people should plan for their own retirement and not rely on the govt to give them one. That was NEVER the intention of SS.
Redneck, Greenspan's statement of cutting/reducing SS was the best news I got that day. I've already debated this topic with many people on this board, so I dont really feel like going into all the details. Ill just say that people should plan for their own retirement and not rely on the govt to give them one. That was NEVER the intention of SS.
For those of you that say I shouldnt vote, fuck off! It is a free country, or at least it was until Bush was elected. Biggest fucking scam that was getting him into office....
Get over it, it was 4 years ago and he won fair and square. Your boy lost no matter how the votes were counted.
Get over it, it was 4 years ago and he won fair and square. Your boy lost no matter how the votes were counted.
crewboss
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Ill just say that people should plan for their own retirement and not rely on the govt to give them one. That was NEVER the intention of SS.
couldn't have said it better bob. those looking forward to SS can be placed in a few categories:
1. you worked hard, but did not make enough money in your lifetime to save enough for retirement. it's possible and sure, it can happen, if you make less less income than the US poverty line, current approximate - $17K annual.
2. you are a war veteran, or you have battled a chronic disease for your entire adult life, rendering you unable to work. no - "back ache" does not qualify as a chronic disease.
3. drug addicts should be given 10 years from their first infraction to completely turn around, or they will NEVER qualify for SS, or any other federal benefit. It is their responsibility to take advantage of every resource within that 10 year term. Can't get sober in a decade? Start saving now because the gov't will not contribute a dime.
4. you made pleanty of money during your lifetime but savings was never a priority. there needs to be a trigger here. the fed can mandate a personal savings rate and audit using the IRS (which would be complete bullshit), or how about the gov't. JUST SAYS NO.
If the gov't went zero tolerance with only a few policies that currently get walked on, we'd all be better off, and the incentive of being a normal, responsible, working american citizen would be bolstered..
couldn't have said it better bob. those looking forward to SS can be placed in a few categories:
1. you worked hard, but did not make enough money in your lifetime to save enough for retirement. it's possible and sure, it can happen, if you make less less income than the US poverty line, current approximate - $17K annual.
2. you are a war veteran, or you have battled a chronic disease for your entire adult life, rendering you unable to work. no - "back ache" does not qualify as a chronic disease.
3. drug addicts should be given 10 years from their first infraction to completely turn around, or they will NEVER qualify for SS, or any other federal benefit. It is their responsibility to take advantage of every resource within that 10 year term. Can't get sober in a decade? Start saving now because the gov't will not contribute a dime.
4. you made pleanty of money during your lifetime but savings was never a priority. there needs to be a trigger here. the fed can mandate a personal savings rate and audit using the IRS (which would be complete bullshit), or how about the gov't. JUST SAYS NO.
If the gov't went zero tolerance with only a few policies that currently get walked on, we'd all be better off, and the incentive of being a normal, responsible, working american citizen would be bolstered..
thick
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Where the hell are the spell check police when we need them???? Women and minorities vote overwhelmingly democrat for a reason(That reason isn't good for the US). I will stick with Bush even though that fucker is really pissing me off about a lot of issues. Still beats the alternative.
sc
we need Harry Browne and the libertarian party in the white house.
have a look,,,,,http://www.lp.org/ a third party would really make some changes..
we need Harry Browne and the libertarian party in the white house.
have a look,,,,,http://www.lp.org/ a third party would really make some changes..
I would probably vote libertarian if 1) they presented a viable candidate, and 2) he had at least a remote chance of winning or at least getting a good percentage of votes. Right now, Im not going to waste my vote on someone who will almost guaranteed get less than 4% of the popular vote and no electoral votes.
Jewel and I were talking about education and some other issues the other day. She, being a teacher, highly values education and really sees how reliant the ed. system is on the overall economy. IMO, if the entire war on drugs was eliminated and that money spent on education, that would almost solve both problems. Education would have enough money for supplies, smaller class size and so on, and rec drug use would probably decline, as high educated people have a lower rate of usage. Plus, highly educated people (Ill say bachelors and above) have a much lower rate of violent criminal activity. Right now, I think the Fed. Dept of Educ should be eliminated and that responsibility left up to the individual states and communities.
Sensational
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Bob Smith said:
Yes! Good post bob!
On a related issue, the white house asked to have a meeting with representatives of the major sports(NFL NHL MLB etc) about steroid usage. WTF is that about? Bush and company need to stop wasting time on this issue.
I agree, Sens. The govt shouldnt be involved in the policing of sports organizations. And if the sports cant control their own athletes and policies, then they need to reevaluate their strategy.Sensational said:
esco
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and in clintons 8 yrs the size of our military was equal to that of wwII ... my father was buried in arlington nation cemetary with full honors and because of clinton's freakin cutbacks, me and my family were forced to wait 10 days! for my father to be buried after his death! also the only reason our deficit spiked is because when clinton was in office he didn't due a damn thing let alone spend what was necessary, he tried and played it safe which much us vulnerable to get f*cked with like 9-11. and the economy was already on the rise before clinton even took office and he knew this and road the shirt tails of this from the bush srs admin to make it into the white house.
occam
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Bob Smith said:
Man I wish I had more time to respond to this Bob........in short I'll just say I knew there must be a reason I liked you and.....there is a good reason to vote third party....in short.... federal campaign funds matching for subsequent elections.
Damn I gotta go.......late as hell.
I checked out that Libertarian site and agree with the vast majority of their stances on taxes, social security, guns, welfare, drugs, education. But not immigration.
FTW
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esco said:
I could be wrong on this but wasnt Bush sr. head of the CIA that trained Bin Laden in tatics and suplied weapons to help keep the Russians from invading Afghanistan?
