Steroids that have a positive effect on mental health!?

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

Start low I'd say 200mg per week if you're just going for side relief, this will probably help e2 to an extent as well which could be the source of your mental sides, have you had your e2 checked recently?

I start getting depressed when my e2 gets too high, I just picked up a bunch of dht derivatives myself as I ran tren recently for the last time and this time I mean it lol

Yes I had these bloods taken on 20th may so 3 and a half weeks ago. The prolactin is so low because I had been taking caber before hand, realised this was not needed after these bloods and haven't taken any since. I was also running 0.5 adex 2x/wk when these were taken because I had a little gyno flare up and as you can see e2 was still a little high, I've since swapped over to 12.5mg aromasin 2x/wk and this feels a lot better in terms of gyno flare up.

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

No, microdosing shrooms will add to "activation". Not what he needs. However, doing full on trips, that might get him out of the mindset he is in. But that takes some experience. If nobody wants to take meds and is more opened to alternatives, then I'd suggest ketamine.

And OP; why add masteron? That is one of the most anxiogenic compounds, you'll be more aggressive and anxious. Either your description in the OP wasn't as serious as you made it look out to be, or you are just plain stupid, sorry, don't want to be blunt, but srsly another aas? Mast? "Ruining my life", you said that ... Ok, I've said my peace. Good luck.

I agree on the ketamine thing, anytime I've taken it In the past it has certainly had antidepressant properties afterwards, I feel total clarity after coming round from ketamine, like your brains been reset.

Honestly it's because I've seen so many people saying they've been going through the same as me on nandrolone totally depressed and anxious and stuff and then they have added a little mast (or other dht) and have felt a night and day difference.

At this point I'm more willing to try a little mast that will be out my system very quickly and I've used before than go down the antidepressant ssri and all that stuff route, I've seen what these meds do to people I really don't want to be addicted to prescription pills like so many others, I'd rather try a bag of ket again first lol

I respect everything your saying and appreciate it jin

 

[Maximus014]

I agree on the ketamine thing, anytime I've taken it In the past it has certainly had antidepressant properties afterwards, I feel total clarity after coming round from ketamine, like your brains been reset.

Honestly it's because I've seen so many people saying they've been going through the same as me on nandrolone totally depressed and anxious and stuff and then they have added a little mast (or other dht) and have felt a night and day difference.

At this point I'm more willing to try a little mast that will be out my system very quickly and I've used before than go down the antidepressant ssri and all that stuff route, I've seen what these meds do to people I really don't want to be addicted to prescription pills like so many others, I'd rather try a bag of ket again first lol

I respect everything your saying and appreciate it jin

Your estrogen is pretty high, I would try adding in something to pull that within range, high estrogen sides can wreak havoc 9n mental health, hence why woman are crazy j/k, but it does cause mental sides, I'd have a feeling that when people say mast makes them feel.better it's from lowering the estrogen affects they've been going through, but this is just speculation,

The mast will probably more than help, but throwing more.compounds at it probably is t the best route, I'd say dropping g that estrogen will make a huge difference, but you're.going to do what you want by the sou do of it so start low on the mast

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

Your estrogen is pretty high, I would try adding in something to pull that within range, high estrogen sides can wreak havoc 9n mental health, hence why woman are crazy j/k, but it does cause mental sides, I'd have a feeling that when people say mast makes them feel.better it's from lowering the estrogen affects they've been going through, but this is just speculation,

The mast will probably more than help, but throwing more.compounds at it probably is t the best route, I'd say dropping g that estrogen will make a huge difference, but you're.going to do what you want by the sou do of it so start low on the mast

I'm using 12.5mg Aromasin 2x/wk now tho and things do feel better in terms of estro sides, i had a little gyno flare up when these bloods were taken and the aromasin is doing well holding that back..

 

[lukiss96]

Thing is with estrogen it's totally individual, some guy can feel good on high estrogen and given high testosterone it should not cause serious problems. Either way, high > too low.

@TheBulkerOnTheRoof
Now I see it's not sensitive and it's total estrogen if I'm not mistaken, you need sensitive e2 (estradiol) LC/MS not ECLIA method.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Thing is with estrogen it's totally individual, some guy can feel good on high estrogen and given high testosterone it should not cause serious problems. Either way, high > too low.

@TheBulkerOnTheRoof
Now I see it's not sensitive and it's total estrogen if I'm not mistaken, you need sensitive e2 (estradiol) LC/MS not ECLIA method.

Yep. I feel better when my E2 is in the higher range.

 

[Maximus014]

Yep. I feel better when my E2 is in the higher range.

I gotta keep mine in range slightly higher isn't too bad, worst thing is crashing g it trying to get it down though

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

I get gyno easy on test even @200mg/wk and always struggle to keep oestradiol in check with arimidex, switched to aromasin 10 days ago and things feel a lot better plus I don't have that shitty feeling arimidex always gave me.

If the mast makes me feel better I'll run it at low dose until the nandrolone leaves my system, then drop test down to trt level, have bloods taken, take it from there.

 

[Maximus014]

I get gyno easy on test even @200mg/wk and always struggle to keep oestradiol in check with arimidex, switched to aromasin 10 days ago and things feel a lot better plus I don't have that shitty feeling arimidex always gave me.

If the mast makes me feel better I'll run it at low dose until the nandrolone leaves my system, then drop test down to trt level, have bloods taken, take it from there.

Good call nandrolone may not agree with you 19 nor can be brutal, and is the reason I won't touch tren anymore, makes me a total basket case,

Hopefully coming off the deca solves some of the issues you're having, just remember it may take some time for you to start feeling better


My run for my upcoming diet will be 200 test with 200 mast ramping up to 600 and keeping test at 200 will bump it to 400 if needed, and anavar at the end, have never run var before so I'm excited about it

These days I try to keep my dosages on the moderate side, starting low and ramping up as needed if needed

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

Good call nandrolone may not agree with you 19 nor can be brutal, and is the reason I won't touch tren anymore, makes me a total basket case,

Hopefully coming off the deca solves some of the issues you're having, just remember it may take some time for you to start feeling better


My run for my upcoming diet will be 200 test with 200 mast ramping up to 600 and keeping test at 200 will bump it to 400 if needed, and anavar at the end, have never run var before so I'm excited about it

These days I try to keep my dosages on the moderate side, starting low and ramping up as needed if needed

It's a fucking shame tho, been seeing great results the past couple weeks and with another 4-5 weeks to go this had the potential to be a really good run!

Do you cruise on test @200mg/wk and just add compounds in and out? Or is this a blast and you cruise a lot lower?

 

[Maximus014]

It's a fucking shame tho, been seeing great results the past couple weeks and with another 4-5 weeks to go this had the potential to be a really good run!

Do you cruise on test @200mg/wk and just add compounds in and out? Or is this a blast and you cruise a lot lower?

I cruise on test and just go in and out and get regular blood work once I take stuff out, my doctor got pissed last time my test came up rediculously high

Usually same as cycling I take the time I was on and just run 200 test for an equal ammount of time, I've been thinking of running some hcg here and there but it seems like an extra cost I dont really need as I don't plan on having anymore kids

 

[phenominal34]

I get gyno easy on test even @200mg/wk and always struggle to keep oestradiol in check with arimidex, switched to aromasin 10 days ago and things feel a lot better plus I don't have that shitty feeling arimidex always gave me.

If the mast makes me feel better I'll run it at low dose until the nandrolone leaves my system, then drop test down to trt level, have bloods taken, take it from there.

how tall are you and what do you weigh ?

 

[Jabbathehutt]

I also do 2x1 on test to nandrolone and never had issues. I like the idea of low dose primo with nandrolone.

 

[canadian mutant]

All of them for me, fuckin love a nice blast

 

[TrenTrenTren]

It's a fucking shame tho, been seeing great results the past couple weeks and with another 4-5 weeks to go this had the potential to be a really good run!

Do you cruise on test @200mg/wk and just add compounds in and out? Or is this a blast and you cruise a lot lower?

Here's something you might want to consider. Consider you are fucking with your hormones, and with that, there are going to be some emotions you have to work through.

Man up. Don't show your shit. Don't shit everything out in front of family or girls, because they won't understand it. Man up. Hold everything inside, like a real man does. The first time girls see a weakness, they ride it until you are ruined. Fuck women. Women are shit. Women are beneath men. Men are conquerors. Women are leeches. All they do is suck the life essence out of men.

Stay strong. If you have to shit everything out, do it in front of MEN you trust.

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

how tall are you and what do you weigh ?

5"9
90kg
10-12% bf

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

Here's something you might want to consider. Consider you are fucking with your hormones, and with that, there are going to be some emotions you have to work through.

Man up. Don't show your shit. Don't shit everything out in front of family or girls, because they won't understand it. Man up. Hold everything inside, like a real man does. The first time girls see a weakness, they ride it until you are ruined. Fuck women. Women are shit. Women are beneath men. Men are conquerors. Women are leeches. All they do is suck the life essence out of men.

Stay strong. If you have to shit everything out, do it in front of MEN you trust.

Fuck it your right I'm adding tren

 

[Maximus014]

Fuck it your right I'm adding tren

Tren is a beast, if you think mental sides are bad with test and deca you've seen nothing yet

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Fuck it your right I'm adding tren

Haha don't do that

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

OK update.

Feeling a lot better, it's still there but more manageable.

Took my first pin again lastnight in over a week since the first Post.

175 test
150 nandrolone
200 masterone

I have halved the nandrolone and added in 200mg mast

So far I feel good, libidos good (it always was)
Mood has improved.
Also haven't had to use any ai so far!

I'm pretty sure my problems arose from using too much deca in ratio to test, double almost..

I will see how I get on over the next weeks on this new protocol and have bloods taken in around 4 weeks.

Happy So far! Appreciate the responses over the past week guys, legend's on this forum!