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[dealer]

I've seen those Kigs mistrusted severely on many small and major forums.

I saw a post that said your testing them to be sure.. but why sell something that may be bad in the first place ? Say they are bad what about the 50 - 100 or even 1 person who bought them and they were bunk ?

I've run multiple businesses successful and failures. Ethics is something difficult to have, and I by no means will claim to of lived a perfect life. I once placed a large order from China and received junk (non-aas-related). I could of sold the junk for profit or to recoup cost, but I instead chose to dump it to preserve my reputation and brand. I think thats one of the points Dr Jim is making (in his defense as some choose to be annoyed by him but he reached out to me real early and I will never forget that).

Not trying to start any beef or keep this thread going, but think about someone buying 1 - 3k and they've saved for months or a year only to not get what they paid for.

This post may be for naught, maybe I missed something. I tried to stay on top of this long ass thread but I don't think this concern has been put up like I just put it.

Respectfully,

Me

I'm "preventing" no one from buy a product from SF, including those Kigs but I'm certainly not diffident about voicing the mistrust I have for their less than dutifully selected Meso rep.

 

[steroidsfax]

I've seen those Kigs mistrusted severely on many small and major forums.

I saw a post that said your testing them to be sure.. but why sell something that may be bad in the first place ? Say they are bad what about the 50 - 100 or even 1 person who bought them and they were bunk ?

I've run multiple businesses successful and failures. Ethics is something difficult to have, and I by no means will claim to of lived a perfect life. I once placed a large order from China and received junk (non-aas-related). I could of sold the junk for profit or to recoup cost, but I instead chose to dump it to preserve my reputation and brand. I think thats one of the points Dr Jim is making (in his defense as some choose to be annoyed by him but he reached out to me real early and I will never forget that).

Not trying to start any beef or keep this thread going, but think about someone buying 1 - 3k and they've saved for months or a year only to not get what they paid for.

This post may be for naught, maybe I missed something. I tried to stay on top of this long ass thread but I don't think this concern has been put up like I just put it.

Respectfully,

Me

No dealer who buys kigs does so assuming they are fake. HGH is plentiful I know what we pay for our kigs and it is far from bottom of the barrel pricing. Therefore no dealer is going to just "pull" them immediately due to poor reviews. Unless of course the reviews are of THEIR gh.

The owner of SF is steadfast in his belief that the Kigs he has are not fake kigs, are not underdosed kigs, but good kigs. When I first took this position I informed him of my beliefs concerning the kigs, and told him I would not help him sell Kigtropin without first seeing a test of 5 kits.

In the mean time I have been asked about the quality of our Gh several times. Both in PM and on the open forum, and my answer has not waivered.

Most of the reviews I see on HGH is that it is severely underdosed or entirely fake. Given the cost of a single kit, and the amount necessary to see real changes, (even with legit hgh) I would be very leary sending so much hard-earned money to someone for a product which could be fake.

(GASP)---"but dosn't the SF site sell HGH??"

Yeah we do.

And I recently raised these concerns to my boss, and at my urging we are having our kits tested. Several kits will be blindly tested, no selectivity will take place. When those updates come back one of a few things will happen.

1) The kits will be underdosed/fake and they will be yanked from our store, until a legitimate, consistent supplier can be found.

2) The kits will be dosed perfectly and I will report such here on Meso and abroad. The H.N.I.C. is confident this will be the result.

3) The kits come back underdosed and my boss shocks me, and acts completely out of character by refusing to pull them. Which will mean, I will terminate association with him, and do everything in my power to protect the brotherhood from him.

In conclusion:

 

[dealer]

Fair enough. Just never stop testing. When you least expect it, work quality / product quality may go down.

 

[steroidsfax]

Fair enough. Just never stop testing. When you least expect it, work quality / product quality may go down.

QC is a necessity in this business.

Plenty of negative things can/have been said about SF.

Honesty and communication, is not among the negatives IMO. This is not a scam site. Everyone has gotten honest treatment, everyone has gotten their gear. Everyone that I know of, has been made happy in the end. I haven't seen anyone say anything to the contrary.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh that's right THESE KIGS are different! [)]
Why of course they are DOC, SF is selling them. [}]
YOU honestly believe each vial contains TEN IU of rHGH AS ADVERTISED?
I KNOW BETTER!
I hear they are selling land on Mars for those willing to purchase it, interested SF ?
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT about ethics and the intentions of my commentary, Dealer!
jim

 

[steroidsfax]

Oh that's right THESE KIGS are different! [)]
Why of course they are DOC, SF is selling them. [}]
YOU honestly believe each vial contains TEN IU of rHGH AS ADVERTISED?
I KNOW BETTER!
I hear they are selling land on Mars for those willing to purchase it, interested SF ?
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT about ethics and the intentions of my commentary, Dealer!
jim

If anyone purchased one of our kigs and is/was dissatisfied, I would love to hear from you. As I will personally see to it that you receive a full refund.

I don't know how much more of a fair and balanced posting I could have made than the one I made above, to which Jimmy replied with his snarling cynicism which as become typical in response to my postings.

Many good sources, have been known to come across fakes, the good ones, offer refunds and pull them. We have yet to have ONE bad review.

How many did you buy J?

 

[Dr JIM]

FYI
Determining the manufacturer is the most expeditious means of elucidating whether a purchased rHGH product is BUNK. Thus, if no manufacturer is listed the stuff is BUNK at least 95% of the time and I'm being generous!

For those vendors whom justify the sale of an intentionally "underdosed' product, "for less", yet which is advertised at standard concentration, lack the ethics I referred to earlier. Why, because these "kits" are invaribly sold as TEN IU vials or a TEN pack. Combined that's 100IU OR based on the international conversion for rGH it's THIRTY THREE milligrams and NOT TEN, FIFTEEN OR TWENTY milligrams. (Absolute garbage)

How retailers justify this type of behavior is thru THEIR POCKET BOOK and consequently are not trustworthy, IMO

Do you think they could/would dilute their AAS products also? Why I'd bet Vegas on it!

Finally with predictably each and every time I have contested the viability of a "generic GH product" the re-saler comes up null and void in response to my points of contention. I KNOW THIS IS situation to be NO DIFFERENT. Thus just because SF carries the Sciroxx product line does NOT mean all of their sales items are GTG, IMO

best
jim

 

[steroidsfax]

Agreed. We don't knowingly carry underdosed products. Not one person has reported purchasing an underdosed product from us.

If this situation arises we will deal with it as we would deal/have dealt with any other customer complaint, which has and will continue to lead to customer satisfaction.

An irrevocable fact proven by every single customer review posted on Meso, a completely open and honest forum, for a completely open and honest source.

We have served everyone from 1st day noobs, to 10+ year veterans. No one has ended up disatisfied.

This is statistic we hang out hat on.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh really they are not "under dosed and were tested"!

Mind telling me exactly what process was utilized to make the IU/mg concentration determination?

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh and rest assured I wasn't being cynical but quite sincere!

 

[rastike11]

http://www.steroidy-net.info

 

[MANWHORE]

Who is this for?

http://www.steroidy-net.info

 

[MythotiK]

Who is this for?

Morons...

 

[Dr JIM]

Lol, mk!

 

[Dr JIM]

MW, I suspect that post was intended for those in search of options OTHER than SF.

However I seriously doubt it will be an improvement, and is more likely WORSE than SF, since their FIRST POST ostensibly is an advertisement rather than an introduction!

 

[scott weiland]

Dr Jim hates SF. Just flat out hates em.

 

[Jixer2013]

how safe is SF really? paypal leaves a paper trail for real. just like a CC. I'm just saying

 

[MythotiK]

You do not have to use PayPal or a cc with SF....!!

 

[steroidsfax]

hey , im the owner of SFX (this is not the rep there)*
I m gonna bring some clarification about this ..
-First of all PP payment is only for (Approved customers) We do not force anyone to use it ...
-I would like to know how Money Gram and/or Western Union are more safe than paypal ?(YOU AGREE THAT ALL SOURCE USE THESE METHODS)
-As i know Collector info' are showed to our site and accessible to everyone like (others sources are ),And if (a gov entity) would investigate on him(collector) they will find every info's on people who sent him money ...
-Of course i'm aware that in the States you dont need a ID to send the funds through (WU / MG) But we highly do not recommand to send funds under fake identity ( like much sources Do again)

-WHY ? because much are making mistake by misspelling the name of collector (and its happen very often) Mg/Wu refuse to release funds if its not correctly spelled ... And secondly because when one of our collector has reached the limit of funds reception per year, we are in obligation to request from customer to make change of the collector name to another one ..
And for both situation If the wire has been sent under fake identity the funds will be lost as the person who made the wire will be unable to make change !
I must precise that 98% of people ordering Using Mg/Wu use always their real Identity !!

-So in my opinions Paypal and WU/MG are same for safety in regards of the anonymity of the client if we consider you use your real informations , except that we ask prior using paypal to have a order history with us + reference from a board .

-As long that no one get the detail of the transaction(Products and quantity ordered attached to the delivery address) People have nothing to scare ...

-I do not hide that (gov entity) are able to find the sums sent by MG and Western Union And/Or paypal , but its not a tangent ''proof'' to charge a customer as long they dont know ---what exactly has been purchased---....

-I must precise that All info about (products ordered and quantity attached to the delivery address , are recorded in our OFFSHORE mailbox (out of laws of the countries concerned) who is fully encrypted (we pay for this service) and each new month we delete all orders records from the previous month!
We dont have a database in our site(there is no registration requierement) and all order placed through the shopping cart is directly forwarded to our mailBox ..

------SO NO INFORMATIONS ABOUT OUR CUSTOMERS STAY ONLINE ON OUR SITE -----

-Some people Using paypal for illegal activites worse than (medic without prescription) ex : ponzi investment bizness , hard drugs,weapons & ammunitions who are considered worse than juiced bizness by these times..
Keep in mind that LE only aiming the supplier and not the little buyer ...

To bring more on PP case :
-Please keep in mind , we sell to worlwide customer ... And outside United states you can buy anonymous mastercard without SSN and without ID to every super market and Store ..
With this fully anonymous mastercard you can purchase throught paypal or anywhere online/offline without being worried of compromising your personal informations ....

-So why we would close our paypal account while these concerned customers love to pay us through paypal ? and what customers could risk more by using PP than using money gram or Western Union ?
As long all details of transaction(Products ordered and quantity) are fully encrypted and stay out of US laws in our mail box ??

-Today there is no way to make a transaction UNDER RADAR, and as far as i know Only Liberty Reserve is the most secure way to pay someone or bitcoin !!
Maybe to hard for regular people to use it ..

I know it would be never enough for the people here who try to bash our site ..(i must precise ''people who never used our service")
I wonder who's this DAMN GOD PERFECT source you guys are using ?

 

[No Known Address]

I agree that WU and MG aren't completely anonymous or safe .

I'm wondering why cash in the mail ( Overnight Priority with a tracking # and delivery info ) isn't used by anyone anymore ? I consider it safest of all ; give the post office $20.00 for the envelope and postage, etc. and that's it - no giving your address, phone, etc. I had two dealings with a source last spring that used CIM and it was great.

When you send the next order you don't see them pulling any past info up on the computer like with WU. I hate when I send a WU and they pull up all my last transactions ... At least with cash in the mail , your personal info isn't needed or stored anywhere.

Of course a dishonest source could just keep the money and not send you anything but that can happen with Pay Pal, WU or MG as well and there isn't anything you can do about it. You can't make a claim that your illegal drug source didn't send you the illegal drugs you ordered ....

That is how I got fucked by Uncle Z.