steroidsfax
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No one is trying to "fuck" with anyone.
Are you saying the men listed in the article you posted are Sciroxx employees?
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No one is trying to "fuck" with anyone.
Are you saying the men listed in the article you posted are Sciroxx employees?
No disrespect Biggerben, but the Fed. system is very backlogged. Not calling anyone out, but typically once a connection is made the Feds will build their legal case using "setups" to setup & make their case stronger. This will continue until they feel confident enough to shut it down. From that time on it could be 2-3 years before it goes to trial, & who knows how long before verdict is reached. Bottom line, IMO this case has been in the pipeline a long time. This case in particular was charged in 2011 which means they started building before that. Reason it made news again is of the plea bargains. What does that mean for forum members? People are creatures of habit. Changing habit patterns many times helps the most caniest of wild animals survive. Just my 2 cents, & wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. Again, no disrespect.
Honestly?
I could be wrong, but I think what he was getting it is Sciroxx has a lot of heat on it here and internationally, and the website this particular gentleman is advertising has already had its security questioned heavily.
Putting this whole scenario together paints a very troubling picture.
SF, that's a ridiculous question. Employees? Knock it off. They are customers/distributors. Don't insult whatever intelligence I may have. This is a criminal organization. Does that sound bad? I'm a career criminal.
The other member that is talking about the feds and how they're 'backlogged"? I'm more than familiar with the fed system. I did a 5 yr mandatory minimum. Those cops and everyone in that case has told EVERYTHING they know. Given the feds computers records, etc. They want to go to as low a security level prison as they can. Preferably a FPC(camp) Lots of rats there. They are cops. Green light on sight. They have a bulls eye on them. They are terrified. they're in with the regular people now. How many in that indictment have been to prison. Try none. They are terrified.
The other member that is talking about the feds and how they're 'backlogged"? I'm more than familiar with the fed system. I did a 5 yr mandatory minimum. Those cops and everyone in that case has told EVERYTHING they know. Given the feds computers records, etc. They want to go to as low a security level prison as they can. Preferably a FPC(camp) Lots of rats there. They are cops. Green light on sight. They have a bulls eye on them. They are terrified. they're in with the regular people now. How many in that indictment have been to prison. Try none. They are terrified.
Biggerben, not true. As the Feds work, sometimes they prosecute what they can, & move forward. Appears you and I both have federal experience. However, individuals rat at different levels of pressure. Depends how much time is allocated to the case for the squeeze. For discussion purposes only, how do you not know a certain website was not set by the Feds to reel in easy prey?
Biggerben, not true. As the Feds work, sometimes they prosecute what they can, & move forward. Appears you and I both have federal experience. However, individuals rat at different levels of pressure. Depends how much time is allocated to the case for the squeeze. For discussion purposes only, how do you not know a certain website was not set by the Feds to reel in easy prey?
I'm not sure how to answer the first part of your post. This is because you're speculating. I suppose you could say I am too. Wouldn't you and the members here want to err on the side of safety? People on line think it's safe cuz they're not meeting me or any other dealer face to face.
The feds have set up websites in the past. Why would they do this if they could be active on an established board and get people that way? Why are you trying to make members relax and just order away?
I suspect the most a-pro-pros colloquialism is "is the bigger they are the harder they fall"!. Moreover it's an unequivocal reason why payment via credit cards or PayPal are very bad ideas, since both leave unnecessary and preventable paper trail!s!
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Quite the contrary. I'm not trying to make members feel safe. I planted the seed of doubt that the Feds, or informant set up the site to capture leads. The 2011 case is closed. Anything new would be a new case, unless of course some individual conducted a transaction with one the listed individuals. After all, there is a fool born every minute.
Actually, not only is this bust old, it has been in the news several times beginning almost two years ago. I read the court documents and have written about it at the time and since then. Gidelson purchased Sciroxx directly from Karl according to the documents.
You're correct. Sciroxx is on the radar. As are all the big international sources. A source doesn't become that big and successful by avoiding attention.
All the guys with domestic remailing operations are particularly at risk of ending up on LE radar. History has shown that most steroid dealers busted in the U.S. are willing to snitch.
I think before the British Dragon owners were arrested in Thailand and extradited to the U.S., most international sources thought they were untouchable. But since then, it's become obvious that the feds won't let international borders stop them from going after sources.
As a result, I think the steroid underground has evolved to some degree. International ugls realize they need to take extra precautions. Steroids are being further criminalize and pushed underground. But many sources welcome this. The greater the risk, the greater the reward.
They realize that the bigger war on drugs is a failure. Now, that the war on steroids is going overseas, they will simply adapt like other organizations in the war on drugs.
In case you missed it, here's my recent article on this topic:
Sciroxx - Long-Arm of Steroid Law Enforcement Takes Interest
Western Union and Moneygram leave a paper trail too. And both companies are more than willing to share information with LE. Extensive WU and MG records are frequently cited in court documents for steroid cases where defendants are also charged with money laundering.
Actually, paypal is rarely ever mentioned. But this is not because it is safer. It is because majority of sources deal with WU/MG; few with paypal.
The feds say that the Sciroxx-brand steroids that they distributed were purchased from Karl.
Exactly. The weakest link for international sources/UGLs are their distributors/remailers. Most guys who regularly import large quantities of steroids into the U.S. will eventually get busted. The overwhelming majority of steroid distributors have ratted their suppliers.
Any good UGL will assume this from the beginning. And they will take steps to protect themselves against their distributors when things turn sour. The distributors/remailers inevitably rat them out.
The UGLs that become buddy-buddy with their distributors and share too much personal information with them are just asking for trouble. This is a business. A criminal enterprise at that. Not a BFF playdate.
Based on your own testimonials, while obviously not perfect (none of us are) your one of the good guys Ben, and no one can convince me otherwise, INCLUDING YOU MATE!
JIM
JIM
Good point about payment with either WU or MG Millard, but the difference is those two entities do not require or even request an ID for the transfer (forwarding) of currency yet do require one for it's acceptance. The latter is only an issue for AAS company agents rather than the consumer. Ergo if someone utilizes various WU/MG locations for payment transfer the "paper trail" ends in short order, IMO
norbit09
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What would you know about that ? I used to live in RI and know the lead guy there.
And let me tell you something at all cost Karl will keep going because he is a greedy bastard.
And let me tell you something at all cost Karl will keep going because he is a greedy bastard.
Yes and no. The feds sometimes bust senders for:
How do the feds do this?
One way is email.
Unfortunately the "paper trail" doesn't end with the sending of funds via WU/MG using a fictitious name. The sender then uses their email account to send the MTCN to the source. If the feds can connect the buyer to the email account, the "anonymity" of the WU/MG transaction is blown.
The bottom line is that sending funds anonymously is not enough. Additional precautions are necessary as well.
norbit09
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Well we all know sciroxx likes safe mail (dumb)
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