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I have to be honest: I seriously think making a man-to-man, open-handed slap a legal non-offense and un fire-able action would make the world a much better place. This would put some serious, much needed rails on modern mouths that run unimpeded and amuck due to our camera-armed, sue-happy culture. There's no accountability anymore, which causes immeasurable mental and emotional strife for those of us who act like men, yet have to constantly put up with douchebags, jerks, idiots and assholes for fear of losing everything.

And NO, I'm not on Tren.
 
So, @Ghoul, am I right in thinking that maybe there was a mix up by some, here, of federal (the info your brought, thank you) vs state sentencing?

This is exactly what happened. Dirthand didn’t seem to know there is a significant difference in how state and federal sentencing is done. The prosecution and judges cannot get around sentencing guidelines in federal cases like they can in state ones. Dirthand was absolutely right in regards to state sentencing, but this is a federal case we are discussing and they are very different in how they’re done.
 
This is exactly what happened. Dirthand didn’t seem to know there is a significant difference in how state and federal sentencing is done. The prosecution and judges cannot get around sentencing guidelines in federal cases like they can in state ones. Dirthand was absolutely right in regards to state sentencing, but this is a federal case we are discussing and they are very different in how they’re done.

Excellent, thank you.
So, in the end Ghoul had provided the correct info.
Cheers
 
This is exactly what happened. Dirthand didn’t seem to know there is a significant difference in how state and federal sentencing is done. The prosecution and judges cannot get around sentencing guidelines in federal cases like they can in state ones. Dirthand was absolutely right in regards to state sentencing, but this is a federal case we are discussing and they are very different in how they’re done.
It's was actually not about this.. for me anyway. I just made a statement that I often wonder how Mr. Ghoul can be so sure of how the the criminal justice system works for people with prior criminal history if he himself has never personally had any experience.... For me it was never about steroids or sentencing guidelines..when you go in front of a judge or at the mercy of a procecutor it's different for those who have have felony records or on parole.. I absolutely agree with his assessment that someone getting caught with gear who has no priors would at most get probation and a fine.. but do t speak for the minority of people you are not..Either way i care less to argue about it.
peace
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It's was actually not about this.. for me anyway. I just made a statement that I often wonder how Mr. Ghoul can be so sure of how the the criminal justice system works for people with prior criminal history if he himself has never personally had any experience.... For me it was never about steroids or sentencing guidelines..when you go in front of a judge or at the mercy of a procecutor it's different for those who have have felony records or on parole.. I absolutely agree with his assessment that someone getting caught with gear who has no priors would at most get probation and a fine.. but do t speak for the minority of people you are not..Either way i care less to argue about it.
peace
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Oh I wasn’t arguing with you. I’m sorry if I mistook what happened. I know people with similar experiences you describe. Some of the people I grew up with and consider family were literally haunted by the criminal justice system over bullshit that didn’t matter, and it would follow them around endlessly and grossly. A buddy of mine got popped at age 16 smoking weed in his parents back yard when cops came to serve his mom a red light camera ticket. Felony for the weed and pipe. 4.5gpa student, was going to I make it big somewhere, and after not a single school would take him. The first felonies made him get picked out of crowds or pulled over for nothing so that cops could fishing expedition to find fucking anything to screw him over with. One time he no shit got a noise violation for his music being too loud. Ended up in and out of jail. Homeless. Ruined his life. That shit is real and fucked. State criminal judges are given insane powers some places to fuck people over.
 
Oh I wasn’t arguing with you. I’m sorry if I mistook what happened
You did not bother me at all with what you said at all!! I just meant that I do not want to argue with anyone Mr. Ghoul included.. I'm not trying to be right or "bring the facts" just my personal experience and others I know.. Then I just thought I would remind mr.ghoul when he was trying to be an internet bully tward me it would probly be a different story in person.. who know he could gaddam monster and hand my ass to me.... either way what he'd have to go through to get the job done would not be something he'd care to go through twice..there would be a mutual respect formed..
Peace
 
It's was actually not about this.. for me anyway. I just made a statement that I often wonder how Mr. Ghoul can be so sure of how the the criminal justice system works for people with prior criminal history if he himself has never personally had any experience.... For me it was never about steroids or sentencing guidelines..when you go in front of a judge or at the mercy of a procecutor it's different for those who have have felony records or on parole.. I absolutely agree with his assessment that someone getting caught with gear who has no priors would at most get probation and a fine.. but do t speak for the minority of people you are not..Either way i care less to argue about it.
peace
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Dirthand,

In the federal system the sentencing guidelines take into account prior criminal history with a points system, so it increases the punishment but within a predictable range.
 
Dirthand,

In the federal system the sentencing guidelines take into account prior criminal history with a points system, so it increases the punishment but within a predictable range.
For sure.. thanks brother. In my experience Low level possession charges will not get picked up and procecuted by the feds anyway.. then wouldn't waste their time with such.. It would be a local or a state level procecution. Thanks for the insight. Nowadays state laws are ever changing with sentencing guidelines, enhancements, I can't speak to other states but mine is set up for revolving door. Just last year they change a list of crimes of where a person was eligible for parole after serving 25 and 50 percent of their sentence to 80 and 100 percent and did not change the sentencing guidelines..
Peace
 
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For sure.. thanks brother. In my experience Low level possession charges will not get picked up and procecuted by the feds anyway.. then wouldn't waste their time with such.. It would be a local or a state level procecution. Thanks for the insight. Nowadays state laws are ever changing with sentencing guidelines, enhancements, I can't speak to other states but mine is set up for revolving door. Just last year they change a list of crimes of where a person was eligible for parole after serving 25 and 50 percent of their sentence to 80 and 100 percent and did not change the sentencing guidelines..
Peace
State level is a crapshoot, and every state is different.

Oregon? It's probably not even a crime.

Some Deep South states? Oh, boy, you might as well be Pablo Escobar.

What you describe about your state and parole is a movement that is going on in several states.
 
This place desperately needs more members like you mate. Always polite, respectful, humble, knowledgeable & helpful to others whenever you can be, even when you’re struggling with life’s challenges - Respect.
Agree and I would say the place needs more like you as well.
You have to be one of the most straight shooters I've seen on the forums.

Respect bro. I always like seeing you post.
 
Get Out Leave GIF by FTX_Official
 
was arrested after police found more than 300 vials of multiple black market weight loss drugs
330 vials of Tirzepatide, Retatrutide and Semaglutide among others were seized from the home.
279 vials of these drugs were seized from the clinic.
In total 698 vials of the black market meds were seized from the three different locations.
can someone ask them to makeup their mind on the amount of vials?

We do know at this point the clinics spent between $60-80,000 since January of this year, alone with her.
She was selling, roughly, a months supply at a time. We have recovered some evidence where she had sold several months supply at a time.
lets assume every patient of her was given sema, tirz or reta every week. that would be 2.4mg of sema, 15mg tirz and 12mg of retatutide. per month that would be 4 vials.

she has spent at least $80,000 from january till december. likely got a year worth of all those glps in bulk.

so, 100 kits of 5mg sema will cost $6,500, 100 kits 15mg tirz will cost $8,500, 15mg of reta will cost $24,000, in total $39,000.

100 kits would translate to 1000 vials, that would translate to 250 patients and each patient having access to 4 vials per month, each kit lasting 6 weeks.

we have been told she spent between $60-80,000, lets assume $80,000.

if she got 100 kits of everything, it would have cost her $39,000 and if 200 kits of everything it would have cost her $78,000.

if she spent $78,000 that would mean, she has 2000 vials of sema, tirz and reta. in total 6000 vials, if every patient was given 4 vials then she would have at least 1,500 patients.

so if those 1,500 patients instead choose to go the route of paying for semaglutide directly to clinic, 500 of her patients would have paid $650,000 and other 500 of her patients would have paid $550,000. in total $1,200,000. im excluding reta because idk the cost of it and even if i did know the price of it.

so she was not caught because she was selling those glps but instead because she "stole" $1,200,000 of money from novo and el lilli.

We have no idea what is in them. At this point, we don’t even know if they are what they say the are on the bottle
first you create fear by letting others know how you are uncertain about what is the vials and then plant doubts of fear. nicely done!

So if you’ve got some in your refrigerator or in you drawer and you plan on taking them, don’t. Go see a regular physician and get a check up
yes do this and make sure you to listen to our dumbass doctors who will tell you to take 1 ampule of sustanon every 2 weeks or how women should never be on hrt because it will give them breast cancer.

gtfo

We do know at this point the clinics spent between $60-80,000 since January of this year, alone with her. We have yet to uncover what the individuals who were buying directly from her have spent,
making it sound like they on their way to find someone even more threatening to national security than pablo escobar.


@Ghoul i should have never listened to you. look at what modafinil did to me.
 
can someone ask them to makeup their mind on the amount of vials?



lets assume every patient of her was given sema, tirz or reta every week. that would be 2.4mg of sema, 15mg tirz and 12mg of retatutide. per month that would be 4 vials.

she has spent at least $80,000 from january till december. likely got a year worth of all those glps in bulk.

so, 100 kits of 5mg sema will cost $6,500, 100 kits 15mg tirz will cost $8,500, 15mg of reta will cost $24,000, in total $39,000.

100 kits would translate to 1000 vials, that would translate to 250 patients and each patient having access to 4 vials per month, each kit lasting 6 weeks.

we have been told she spent between $60-80,000, lets assume $80,000.

if she got 100 kits of everything, it would have cost her $39,000 and if 200 kits of everything it would have cost her $78,000.

if she spent $78,000 that would mean, she has 2000 vials of sema, tirz and reta. in total 6000 vials, if every patient was given 4 vials then she would have at least 1,500 patients.

so if those 1,500 patients instead choose to go the route of paying for semaglutide directly to clinic, 500 of her patients would have paid $650,000 and other 500 of her patients would have paid $550,000. in total $1,200,000. im excluding reta because idk the cost of it and even if i did know the price of it.

so she was not caught because she was selling those glps but instead because she "stole" $1,200,000 of money from novo and el lilli.


first you create fear by letting others know how you are uncertain about what is the vials and then plant doubts of fear. nicely done!


yes do this and make sure you to listen to our dumbass doctors who will tell you to take 1 ampule of sustanon every 2 weeks or how women should never be on hrt because it will give them breast cancer.

gtfo


making it sound like they on their way to find someone even more threatening to national security than pablo escobar.


@Ghoul i should have never listened to you. look at what modafinil did to me.

This is why in some countries Modafinil possession is treated like a capital crime by the authorities (Japan, Russia) with life in prison as a potential penalty,

They're afraid you'll take over...
 
can someone ask them to makeup their mind on the amount of vials?



lets assume every patient of her was given sema, tirz or reta every week. that would be 2.4mg of sema, 15mg tirz and 12mg of retatutide. per month that would be 4 vials.

she has spent at least $80,000 from january till december. likely got a year worth of all those glps in bulk.

so, 100 kits of 5mg sema will cost $6,500, 100 kits 15mg tirz will cost $8,500, 15mg of reta will cost $24,000, in total $39,000.

100 kits would translate to 1000 vials, that would translate to 250 patients and each patient having access to 4 vials per month, each kit lasting 6 weeks.

we have been told she spent between $60-80,000, lets assume $80,000.

if she got 100 kits of everything, it would have cost her $39,000 and if 200 kits of everything it would have cost her $78,000.

if she spent $78,000 that would mean, she has 2000 vials of sema, tirz and reta. in total 6000 vials, if every patient was given 4 vials then she would have at least 1,500 patients.

so if those 1,500 patients instead choose to go the route of paying for semaglutide directly to clinic, 500 of her patients would have paid $650,000 and other 500 of her patients would have paid $550,000. in total $1,200,000. im excluding reta because idk the cost of it and even if i did know the price of it.

so she was not caught because she was selling those glps but instead because she "stole" $1,200,000 of money from novo and el lilli.


first you create fear by letting others know how you are uncertain about what is the vials and then plant doubts of fear. nicely done!


yes do this and make sure you to listen to our dumbass doctors who will tell you to take 1 ampule of sustanon every 2 weeks or how women should never be on hrt because it will give them breast cancer.

gtfo


making it sound like they on their way to find someone even more threatening to national security than pablo escobar.


@Ghoul i should have never listened to you. look at what modafinil did to me.
Don’t be fooled that Karen woman is the El Chapo of Soccer Moms. On God!
 

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