Strongest sleep introducing options

[craigdt]

Yes Phenibut works but like you said; tolerance, dependence and withdrawal are huge risks. Even 4 nights a week I think is too much.

Phenibut, Gabapentin, Baclofen and Pregabalin all work on similar receptors so could help with sleep but Phenibut is probably the only one that also gives a bit of a high and Euphoria which makes it more likely to abuse.

Have you used phenibut?

If so....

Are its effects pretty noticeable?

I keep trying it and I literally cannot tell I've taken it. I've taken up to 2,500mg and just cant feel it at all.

I was expecting something like gaba or pergabelin or even kratom or kava where its like "yeah, I can tell I feel a little different"

I got it from (supposedly) a trusted vendor. Take it both on an empty stomach and after eating. Give it tons of time to kick in.
Just nothing....

 

[tucoloco]

Have you used phenibut?

If so....

Are its effects pretty noticeable?

I keep trying it and I literally cannot tell I've taken it. I've taken up to 2,500mg and just cant feel it at all.

I was expecting something like gaba or pergabelin or even kratom or kava where its like "yeah, I can tell I feel a little different"

I got it from (supposedly) a trusted vendor. Take it both on an empty stomach and after eating. Give it tons of time to kick in.
Just nothing....

They're pretty subtle. I only take it before bed and if I take 2g and wake up in the middle of the night I feel pretty dizzy. By the morning I don't feel anything but I am always in a happy mood, more energetic and sociable. It's definitely not a high or psychoactive though. More like having a single alcoholic drink.

 

[Cyp180]

A good Pregnenolone level ?

 

[IndividualMan]

Have you used phenibut?

If so....

Are its effects pretty noticeable?

I keep trying it and I literally cannot tell I've taken it. I've taken up to 2,500mg and just cant feel it at all.

I was expecting something like gaba or pergabelin or even kratom or kava where its like "yeah, I can tell I feel a little different"

I got it from (supposedly) a trusted vendor. Take it both on an empty stomach and after eating. Give it tons of time to kick in.
Just nothing....

pregab/ gabapentin hit like a truck. Kava is a nice muscle relaxant with very little other activity, and kratom (not 7-oh, I am talking about the actual plant extract w/o any alterations) is also pretty good. (afaik the only opioid you cant OD on)

Phenibut is wayy less noticeable, but with fewer sides. More usable in the long term, without the severe addiction risk. (its still addictive, just not as much as other things)

 

[andyc34]

Interesting. I’ve been using trazodone for sleep onset these past fee days and have propranolol coming in soon, I wanted to find a solution to stay asleep longer. Sorry about your amped up issues. Same boat here :/

mirtazipine 15mg is wayyyyy better than trazadone for sleep imo

 

[salladen]

Take all of these together or some of them 30-60min before sleep.

10mg Melatonin
5g Glycine
1g Taurine
200mg Magnesium Bisglycinate
600mg KSM66 (Ashwagandha)
200mg L-Theanin
200mcg DSIP

 

[syuri]

mirtazipine 15mg is wayyyyy better than trazadone for sleep imo

Been using Mirtaza for the past few weeks, way ahead of you haha

 

[nullandvoid]

Food. Nothing knocks me out faster and puts me into a deep, lasting sleep like fats and carbs. So once a week. Sleep score of 96 last night. I finally got an A, Mom.