Subq cypionate schedule and dose

undersc0re

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I am using test cypionate, 250 mg/ml. I would like to move from i.m. to subq, and was just wondering what is working best for everyone in terms of the amount of oil that subq can handle without issue per one injection in one spot. I was thinking about doing about 45-50 mg every 2 days or approx 20 units/.2 ml in various areas from arms and legs, to belly and backside. Just wondering if this is a good protocol for administering it and having it work as good as i.m. My current is i.m. every 4 days
 
I am using test cypionate, 250 mg/ml. I would like to move from i.m. to subq, and was just wondering what is working best for everyone in terms of the amount of oil that subq can handle without issue per one injection in one spot. I was thinking about doing about 45-50 mg every 2 days or approx 20 units/.2 ml in various areas from arms and legs, to belly and backside. Just wondering if this is a good protocol for administering it and having it work as good as i.m. My current is i.m. every 4 days

If you're gong to do this, account for syringe loss, which can be substantial. 10% or more.
 
Oil is made for IM not subq. However, I did run this experiment myself to see what would happen. I went up to 0.5 ml with the only issue being a lump that lasted about 4 days. Their was a lot of talk about less conversion to estrogen and my blood work found that talk to be false.
 
If you're gong to do this, account for syringe loss, which can be substantial. 10% or more.
I was going to use .3ml insulin syringes, using the same syringe that goes into the stopper. I am using very clean practices wiping everything with alcohol b4 and after, I was accounting drawing to the 20 units and expecting 45mg instead of 50. It doesn’t look like it loses a lot between whats left at the end and maybe the tiniest bit of air that was left.
I tried the luer lok drawing with a 25 and then inj with 30, it does feel nice and smooth with the new 30 compared to the 29 gauge insulins but so much more waste and expense. I do all my injections at home always being very very clean.
 
I was going to use .3ml insulin syringes, using the same syringe that goes into the stopper. I am using very clean practices wiping everything with alcohol b4 and after, I was accounting drawing to the 20 units and expecting 45mg instead of 50. It doesn’t look like it loses a lot between whats left at the end and maybe the tiniest bit of air that was left.
I tried the luer lok drawing with a 25 and then inj with 30, it does feel nice and smooth with the new 30 compared to the 29 gauge insulins but so much more waste and expense. I do all my injections at home always being very very clean.

Ok. .3ml insulin syringes are all very low or zero loss so no issue there.
 
Oil is made for IM not subq. However, I did run this experiment myself to see what would happen. I went up to 0.5 ml with the only issue being a lump that lasted about 4 days. Their was a lot of talk about less conversion to estrogen and my blood work found that talk to be false.
Ya I had only one conversation with a fellow who switched, and his blood work showed improvement on the hematocrit levels and nothing else really changed substantially. He went from once weekly i.m. to daily subq though, and who knows what else could have influenced it i guess.
 
Ya I had only one conversation with a fellow who switched, and his blood work showed improvement on the hematocrit levels and nothing else really changed substantially. He went from once weekly i.m. to daily subq though, and who knows what else could have influenced it i guess.

In my experience it's often that unaccounted for reduction in dose from syringe loss.
 
I do have one more question to throw out here, I feel comfortable not getting any stopper material or coring into me when I draw with a larger needle and inject with smaller. When you use the same needle is this ever a thing or an issue? I feel when you push the air into the vial it would expel any coring and the odds of it getting sucked back up would almost be zero? Maybe I am being overly paranoid
 
I do have one more question to throw out here, I feel comfortable not getting any stopper material or coring into me when I draw with a larger needle and inject with smaller. When you use the same needle is this ever a thing or an issue? I feel when you push the air into the vial it would expel any coring and the odds of it getting sucked back up would almost be zero? Maybe I am being overly paranoid

More injections = more cumulative risk.

Sub-visible particles (below 1 micron) are just as dangerous, long term.

I have a chart somewhere of where different sized particles tend to get lodged, ie, liver, lungs, etc. I should post it.
 
More injections = more cumulative risk.

Sub-visible particles (below 1 micron) are just as dangerous, long term.

I have a chart somewhere of where different sized particles tend to get lodged, ie, liver, lungs, etc. I should post it.
Thats quite scary , some guys are pinning 10 different things every day
 
If you want to switch due to scar tissue issues, I found back filling a 29g 0.5 inch insulin syringe extremely effective. You literally can not feel it going into your delt.
This is what I do, I switched from subq due to annoying lumps and ISR when adding other stuff to my test. The shallow IM in delts work great, I also use the z track technique to prevent leakage, if I put more than 0.5 ml in delts with shallow IM there is a good chance of leakage so z track will prevent it but very awkward to do one handed
 
Thats quite scary , some guys are pinning 10 different things every day

The metric for safety is often "I've been doing this for x years and there have been no problems" .

No one, not the most serious diabetic or hardened heroin addict injects as often, or as much volume as we do. And let's be real, much of what we inject isn't exactly checked to ensure compliance with FDA particulate standards.

Best thing you can do is refilter into a vial certified to be particulate free. It may not be perfect, but as particulates and the micro-embolisms they cause are a cumulative problem, every bit you can do to reduce the amount of them being introduced into your body, the better off you are.
 
This is what I was trying to figure out with the .2 ml. Is lumps an issue, I just started this and today I put it into my belly fat with a .5 inch insulin syringe and it seems good to go so far, but I have not tried it in the more leaner areas like under arm or leg. Doing a lot more with bac water seems a non issue I was just concerned about the oil sitting there for more than a couple days as a lump, I have read different opinions and experiences, but everyones is different I guess! I really don’t want to pin every day. 180 days a year sounds much better than 365 days a year I guess I can try for a few months and get tested, can be much worse that my original way. People generally seem happier with subq.
I never pinned a thing until I turned 50.
 
This is what I was trying to figure out with the .2 ml. Is lumps an issue, I just started this and today I put it into my belly fat with a .5 inch insulin syringe and it seems good to go so far, but I have not tried it in the more leaner areas like under arm or leg. Doing a lot more with bac water seems a non issue I was just concerned about the oil sitting there for more than a couple days as a lump, I have read different opinions and experiences, but everyones is different I guess! I really don’t want to pin every day. 180 days a year sounds much better than 365 days a year I guess I can try for a few months and get tested, can be much worse that my original way. People generally seem happier with subq.
belly fat for oils might cause some unattractive bruising, will show up in a day or two if it’s gonna happen to you
 
"Give me a break bubbleboy, I've been doing this for years and I don't feel any micro particles lodged in my lymph nodes, so it's fine!"

"particles with size of ≤1 µm have been shown to deposit predominantly in the liver whereas particles with size of 3–6 µm deposit in the spleen and hepatic lymph nodes (Barba, 2000). Particles with size of ≥10 µm pass the pulmonary vascular bed slowly and are expected to be retained in lung unless they can get through the lung to other organs via collateral blood circulation (Barba, 2000). When particles size is ≥50 µm, they are expected to be entrapped in the lung (Barba, 2000). Size dependent biodistribution is related to the blood flow direction and the size of blood vessels."

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Of course, if you're healthy and have sufficient "Glass dissolving enzyme" levels and enough "Rubber removing cells", all this garbage will be safely, almost magically whisked out of your body....
 
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Thats wild. I assume that last thing said was a joke lol. Thanks for sharing those things here, appreciate it. I just noticed a small round bump where I injected in the belly this morning, I guess .2ml is quite noticeable, I’ll see how it does over a couple days without intervening with massage etc.
 
Oil is made for IM not subq. However, I did run this experiment myself to see what would happen. I went up to 0.5 ml with the only issue being a lump that lasted about 4 days. Their was a lot of talk about less conversion to estrogen and my blood work found that talk to be false.
My first time to try tren I picked ace so I could stop quickly if I had problems. But I sub-q'd it bc, well, I'm not very bright. It was only 0.2cc but that shit left a lump for a week and itched and burned the whole time. Only IM after that
 
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