Subq cypionate schedule and dose

I switched to SubQ recently. Injecting Test 80mg(.2ml) + EQ 30mg(.1ml) + Deca 62.5mg(.25ml) every 2 days. Rotating various areas of my glutes without issues.
Noticed my bp went down.
Do you get little bumps and do they go away after a few days? Lower blood pressure as in how much exactly? Do you go very deep on the subq?
 
.2 ml of the test cyp subq in the belly and after 48 hrs there is a same size small ball sitting there, it’s a little sore, no bruising.
i guess my next option will be what you guys have been successfully doing for years, delts. I would imagine if its at or mostly i.m. there are no bumps?
 
I'm currently doing 0,6ml of test and mast subc MWF with zero issues.

Once every couple shots might form some marble which goes away after 1-2 days, probably due to oil volume. I've never done to belly though and i won't since most guys having issues they're pinning their belly area. I'm doing only glutes and hips.

Is this considered a "bad" reaction? IMO no. Doing IM in the delts with 29G half inch is more annoying. I just prefer doing subc while not on heavy cycle.
 
I had no luck with anything SC minus HCG or BPC 157. Over the course of my 10 years on TRT (8 self rx and 2 under urologist) I tried many a time and many a source SC. Whether it was E or C I got a small lump no matter the placement or how smooth the injection went.

2 years ago I was breaking down my 200mg dose into 3 pins. Shot the last dose SC in my stomach. Immediately it hardened up even after 5 mins massage and a heated compress. The next morning it was sweating snd looking discolored. Warm to the touch but not hot. Hit up urgent care as a precaution and they diagnosed staph almost immediately. My swabbing/injection was flawless and the pin was switched after drawing. My body just didn't appreciate the oil under the skin. That was my final.SC oil injection as I had to run 10 days of a sulfa AB in the middle of the summer. 3 weeks with no booze wasn't pleasant during BBQ season but a lesson was learned. Its IM or nothing for me.
 
I had no luck with anything SC minus HCG or BPC 157. Over the course of my 10 years on TRT (8 self rx and 2 under urologist) I tried many a time and many a source SC. Whether it was E or C I got a small lump no matter the placement or how smooth the injection went.

2 years ago I was breaking down my 200mg dose into 3 pins. Shot the last dose SC in my stomach. Immediately it hardened up even after 5 mins massage and a heated compress. The next morning it was sweating snd looking discolored. Warm to the touch but not hot. Hit up urgent care as a precaution and they diagnosed staph almost immediately. My swabbing/injection was flawless and the pin was switched after drawing. My body just didn't appreciate the oil under the skin. That was my final.SC oil injection as I had to run 10 days of a sulfa AB in the middle of the summer. 3 weeks with no booze wasn't pleasant during BBQ season but a lesson was learned. Its IM or nothing for me.
My lump seems to be safe for now, no reactions going on yet, hopefully it absorbs, maybe I should have tried my first subq test shot somewhere else lol. For your bad reaction how many ml or units were put into the belly? You have me worried now!
 
My swabbing/injection was flawless and the pin was switched after drawing. My body just didn't appreciate the oil under the skin. That was my final.SC oil injection as I had to run 10 days of a sulfa AB in the middle of the summer. 3 weeks with no booze wasn't pleasant during BBQ season but a lesson was learned. Its IM or nothing for me.

Exactly, it's so simple to understand but some fail and blame it on wrong/bad gear. It just happens to me (and to all those who are doing subc) that i can tolerate whatever i've used so far. Test, primo, mast in Castor, MCT, Sesame, GSO..i've never had issues.

I was doing 0,4ml every day (pinning the same spot e2d) of test+primo for almost 5 months, zero problems.

In my opinion, whoever does not tolerate it just switch to IM and never look back.
 
My lump seems to be safe for now, no reactions going on yet, hopefully it absorbs, maybe I should have tried my first subq test shot somewhere else lol. For your bad reaction how many ml or units were put into the belly? You have me worried now!
I’ve had lumps from primo subq that stuck around for weeks, should be fine just don’t scratch it.
 
My lump seems to be safe for now, no reactions going on yet, hopefully it absorbs, maybe I should have tried my first subq test shot somewhere else lol. For your bad reaction how many ml or units were put into the belly? You have me worried now!
The one that did me in was 0.3 or 0.4 near to the bellybutton with a 27G pin. Spent nearly a decade giving animals injections before a career change and 10 years giving myself injection. I consider my technique pretty good and my skin prep on point. Body just didn't dig the oil! Don't let my tale of woe deter you. I would only advise to not try and inject again into.any area that's given a negative reaction or knotted up for days on end!
 
Oil is made for IM not subq. However, I did run this experiment myself to see what would happen. I went up to 0.5 ml with the only issue being a lump that lasted about 4 days. Their was a lot of talk about less conversion to estrogen and my blood work found that talk to be false.
yeah subq oil is a NO GO for me, Absolutely hated it,
 
More injections = more cumulative risk.

Sub-visible particles (below 1 micron) are just as dangerous, long term.

I have a chart somewhere of where different sized particles tend to get lodged, ie, liver, lungs, etc. I should post it.
Agree. Only IM infection I ever had was…. Insulin syringe. To this day have no idea why, but certainly demonstrates Insulin syringes aren’t immune to risk
 
For me, the best injection sites from most to least favorite are delts, quads, and sub-Q (belly). Delts have been completely painless with no issues. Quads have been fine, except for the time I hit a nerve and my leg went numb... that mix of pain and weirdness was god awful! Sub-q has given me the most trouble, with swelling, lumps, and hematomas. It seems like online clinics, like Fountain, prefer sub-q, probably because it’s easier to guide beginners through over a Zoom call! A 0.5-inch, 27G needle in the bellyis way less intimidating than a 1- to 1.5-inch, 22-25G in the quad!
 
The little subq bump in my stomach seems like its getting bigger! Tempted to stick a needle in there and suck it out. I immediately switched to delts, 29g 1/2” and it seems to be going into the muscle, done once on each side so far so good.
 
Regardless of whether subq or IM, practice the dart injection technique.

From a few inches away, move your hand with the syringe into the injection site. Doesn't have to be super-fast, but quick enough to get it done in one movement.

Don't do this: slowly press the needle against your skin until it gets through, then slowly push it in to the desired depth. I think that contributes more to injection discomfort etc than other factors.
 
Don't do this: slowly press the needle against your skin until it gets through, then slowly push it in to the desired depth. I think that contributes more to injection discomfort etc than other factors.

I've seen many guys doing the dart technique, i'm just curious about one thing.

I've never done it, so far i'm pushing the needle slow and in just 4 months of IM injections (the rest are subc) i've hit a nerve in my delt twice and once in my pecs. Pushing the needle slowly allowed me to pull it back when the muscle started twitching and reposition the needle. With dart technique how would that go?

I've read somewhere that nerves are resilient and needle will slide without actually damaging it, i'm not so sure though. Any thoughts?
 
I am using test cypionate, 250 mg/ml. I would like to move from i.m. to subq, and was just wondering what is working best for everyone in terms of the amount of oil that subq can handle without issue per one injection in one spot. I was thinking about doing about 45-50 mg every 2 days or approx 20 units/.2 ml in various areas from arms and legs, to belly and backside. Just wondering if this is a good protocol for administering it and having it work as good as i.m. My current is i.m. every 4 days
See if (and maybe how) your energy, drive, aggression, vitality etc changes going from IM to Sub Q and report back in like a month lol, maybe even a few weeks. I recently went from consistent years of sub q (which I still do often) to semi regular / regular IM injections and I am working on a theory / hypothesis. Thanks!
 
I've seen many guys doing the dart technique, i'm just curious about one thing.

I've never done it, so far i'm pushing the needle slow and in just 4 months of IM injections (the rest are subc) i've hit a nerve in my delt twice and once in my pecs. Pushing the needle slowly allowed me to pull it back when the muscle started twitching and reposition the needle. With dart technique how would that go?

I've read somewhere that nerves are resilient and needle will slide without actually damaging it, i'm not so sure though. Any thoughts?

I just jab it in and go. Just like how nurses do it.

Don't think I ever hit a nerve, or maybe like you said, if you're going fast, nerves just slide out of the way.
 
If you're gong to do this, account for syringe loss, which can be substantial. 10% or more.

Does 10% seem sufficient? I used this number before until I came across a video where they just mentioned a number increase of .05 ml (.20->.25) 25%. Did more digging and found it varies on the syringe and needle.

I'm just trying to make sure not to over/under estimate. Unless I'm overthinking this.
 
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