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[seth64]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Thanks Sonny

Trying to understand your post:

You are saying without TRT, you were able to successfully increase your T by 200 points by using Nolvadex ? or you were doing TRT simultaneously while taking Nolvadex ?

 

[Sonny]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Nolvadex was my TRT. Without it, my Test levels were in the 200's.

Sonny

 

[jinxie1]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Hi all.

I just recently saw Dr. Mariano. I have hypothyroid, adrenal fatigue and hypogonadism. My T is around 365, and I am low free T (tho Dr. M does not attach importance to free T). My LH and FSH are relatively low, suggestive of hypopituitarism. I also have a varicoele.

Dr. M decided to start with the thyroid and adrenals. He placed me on Armour. Because I already take Flonase and Advair, he did not prescribe any form of cortisone; he said I was getting enough. He said he wanted to see if this could bring the T back to respectable levels. He also opined that I may not be hypopituitary (as my numbers are in the normal range, but for the low T), and that low thyroid could be the culprit.

I've been on 2 grains of Armour for 1 week. I don't know whether the T has moved up, but I can say one thing, boy am I getting wood -- the supercharged kind, that I only though I could get by taking Cialis. I suspect I could hold up a gallon of paint on this sucker! I'm also waking in the middle of the night and the morning with wood, for the first time in as long as I can remember. And I am much more sexually responsive, and sex (the whole act, rather than just the touchdown) is a real joy again! Sorry for the details, but I thought they would help explain matters better.

So, there's some anecdotal evidence for you, for what it's worth. The only negative is that I am getting headaches, but I assume I am just adjusting to the Armour, as this happened with T4 too.

Incidentally, I would imagine part of this attributable to warmer basal temperature, which has caused my nuts to hang nice and low again, which may be serving to increase T. Just a thought.

Best,
J

 

[seth64]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Thanks for the update; I hope you could avoid TRT.

 

[pmgamer18]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

This is great news I am Hypopituitary and treat my low Cortisol, Thyroid, Aldosterone, Testosterone and low Iron. Just getting on Iron pills now my orgasm is so strong it dam near knocks me out now. I pray your not Hypopituitary every time I think I have a handle on this we find out something Elle's is wrong the last one was Iron my Ferritin come back below normal on my labs.

Hi all.

I just recently saw Dr. Mariano. I have hypothyroid, adrenal fatigue and hypogonadism. My T is around 365, and I am low free T (tho Dr. M does not attach importance to free T). My LH and FSH are relatively low, suggestive of hypopituitarism. I also have a varicoele.

Dr. M decided to start with the thyroid and adrenals. He placed me on Armour. Because I already take Flonase and Advair, he did not prescribe any form of cortisone; he said I was getting enough. He said he wanted to see if this could bring the T back to respectable levels. He also opined that I may not be hypopituitary (as my numbers are in the normal range, but for the low T), and that low thyroid could be the culprit.

I've been on 2 grains of Armour for 1 week. I don't know whether the T has moved up, but I can say one thing, boy am I getting wood -- the supercharged kind, that I only though I could get by taking Cialis. I suspect I could hold up a gallon of paint on this sucker! I'm also waking in the middle of the night and the morning with wood, for the first time in as long as I can remember. And I am much more sexually responsive, and sex (the whole act, rather than just the touchdown) is a real joy again! Sorry for the details, but I thought they would help explain matters better.

So, there's some anecdotal evidence for you, for what it's worth. The only negative is that I am getting headaches, but I assume I am just adjusting to the Armour, as this happened with T4 too.

Incidentally, I would imagine part of this attributable to warmer basal temperature, which has caused my nuts to hang nice and low again, which may be serving to increase T. Just a thought.

Best,
J

 

[jinxie1]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Thanks Phil.

I am taking a number of other horomones and meds too, so I think I have most of it covered in any event. I am not low iron or ferritin. My only real concern is whether I am getting enough adrenal support. I just bought some adrenal support glandulars & herbs, including adrenal cortex glandular, liccorice root, and Fo-ti, which I will take in the morning, when my cortisol is low. Hopefully this protects my adrenals against any increased stress from the Armour. If not, I know Dr. M will place me on some form of hydrocortisone; I have complete trust in him and his methods.

Thanks for all your helpful feedback.

J

 

[pmgamer18]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Well I pray it works for you it did not work for me made me worse I don't like them you have no Idea whats in them I feel there is a lot of Adrenaline in what I was taking the first bottle was ok did nothing second one made me have Painc Attacks. Bear in mind your adrenals don't work if your Hypopit. because they are not getting the message to work so they are not stressed just don't get the message from your Pituitary to work Good way to tell is a ACTH Stim. test. Here is a link about it and read this site.
Real Thyroid Help Forums :: View topic - My explanation of the ACTH stimulation test
If you do this test you need to be off anything with cortisol in it for 2 weeks.

Thanks Phil.

I am taking a number of other horomones and meds too, so I think I have most of it covered in any event. I am not low iron or ferritin. My only real concern is whether I am getting enough adrenal support. I just bought some adrenal support glandulars & herbs, including adrenal cortex glandular, liccorice root, and Fo-ti, which I will take in the morning, when my cortisol is low. Hopefully this protects my adrenals against any increased stress from the Armour. If not, I know Dr. M will place me on some form of hydrocortisone; I have complete trust in him and his methods.

Thanks for all your helpful feedback.

J

 

[Matt Muscle]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Nolvadex was my TRT. Without it, my Test levels were in the 200's.

Sonny

Sonny, how did you feel on the nolvadex, and side effects at all? Did it interfere with your sexual function?

 

[dcguy4u]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Hi all.

I just recently saw Dr. Mariano. I have hypothyroid, adrenal fatigue and hypogonadism. My T is around 365, and I am low free T (tho Dr. M does not attach importance to free T). My LH and FSH are relatively low, suggestive of hypopituitarism. I also have a varicoele.

Dr. M decided to start with the thyroid and adrenals. He placed me on Armour. Because I already take Flonase and Advair, he did not prescribe any form of cortisone; he said I was getting enough. He said he wanted to see if this could bring the T back to respectable levels. He also opined that I may not be hypopituitary (as my numbers are in the normal range, but for the low T), and that low thyroid could be the culprit.

I've been on 2 grains of Armour for 1 week. I don't know whether the T has moved up, but I can say one thing, boy am I getting wood -- the supercharged kind, that I only though I could get by taking Cialis. I suspect I could hold up a gallon of paint on this sucker! I'm also waking in the middle of the night and the morning with wood, for the first time in as long as I can remember. And I am much more sexually responsive, and sex (the whole act, rather than just the touchdown) is a real joy again! Sorry for the details, but I thought they would help explain matters better.

So, there's some anecdotal evidence for you, for what it's worth. The only negative is that I am getting headaches, but I assume I am just adjusting to the Armour, as this happened with T4 too.

Incidentally, I would imagine part of this attributable to warmer basal temperature, which has caused my nuts to hang nice and low again, which may be serving to increase T. Just a thought.

Best,
J

Do you have the lab values ? On what basis did Dr M diagnose with you with hypothyroidism ?

Do you also feel a difference in energy levels since being on amour ?

 

[jinxie1]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

Phil, it is virtually useless for me to take cortisol tests given that I've been on Flonase and Advair long term. And I cant come off them for 2 weeks. According to Dr. M, I am extremely symptomatic of hypothyroid, including myxedema -- my skin is 40% thicker than it should be, and my face is bloated, particularly around the eyes. So that is the focus. As I mentioned, Dr. M believes my adrenals are well supported by the Advair and Flonase. As for the adrenal cortex, liccorice root, and Fo-Ti, I am taking a very small dose and am not noticing any meaningful adrenaline surge.

I appreciate how you feel given your circumstances.

Best,
J

 

[jinxie1]

Re: Success of Dr. Mariano's Protocol on Hypothyroidism and Adrenal fatigue to incres

DCGuy, here are my labs, which do not include my last round, ordered by Dr. M to supplement the ones below, before he treated me. I do feel like I have more energy from the Amour -- but it's not anxious energy.

Below are the results of my recent labs.

Adrenal Stress Test (Salivary):

Early Morning Cortisol 5 (depressed)
Mid-day Cortisol 6 (low normal)
Afternoon Cortisol 6 (low normal)
Midnight Corisol 8 (highly elevated)

DHEA 6 (normal)

Fasting insulin 4 (low normal)
Post-prandial <3 (extremely depressed)

17-OH Progesterone <15 (depressed)

Total Salivary SIgA 15 (extremely depressed)

Plasma

ACTH: 47 (high end of range) -- suggesting that the pituitary is working,
Cortisol, A.M. 19.3 (high end of range)

Urinalysis/Catecholamines:

Volume 3.5 l (excessive)
Creatnine Urine 2.82 (elevated, suggesting kidney impairment)
Norepinephrine 115 (elevated)
Epinephrine 11 (normal)
--Total 126 (elevated)
Dopamine 327 (normal

Thyroid:

Free T3: 276 (should be between 320 and 330)
Free T4: 1.2
TSH: 1.73
TSI: 102
TPO: <10
Thyroidglobulin ABS: <20

Other Blood Work:

Testo, free and total: 355 & 373 (low end of range, not age specific)
% Free Testo: 1.22% & 1.29% (below normal)
Testo free: 45.9 & 45.3 (low end of range, not age specific)
LH: 4.1 & 5.2 (mid range)
FSH: 1.7 (bottom of range)
Prolactin: 4.9 & 6.1 (mid range)
Estradiol: 20 (low end of range)
DHEA-S: 146 (low end of range, not age specific)
IGF-1: 247 (high end of range)

Mean Plasma Glucose: 104
Hemoglobin A1c: 5.1 (normal)
Fasting Glucose 114 (impaired; has been elevated last 3 tests, betweeN 105 and 114)
Fructosamine -- measures glucose for preceding 2-3 weeks -- 299 (elevated)