suspension/tren cycle

[juicestop]

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him using some of the more potent fast acting injectables so I opted to use the Oilbased Test Suspension and Trenbolone Acetate from Dpharm. I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot every other day. The whole thing is not completely set up yet and i would love feedback on how to do everything from start to finish but so far it looks something like this. . .

Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension EOD(every other day)
Week 2: 200mg Test Suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 3: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 4: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 5: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 6: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 7: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
So far this is what i have. I know clomid alone will not be enough so I want him on HCG as well, but i am unfamiliar with how the best way to use it other than after the last shots. If anyone can tell me when to start it and how much to take based on my cycle info please advise

 

[maxx]

wasnt aware that they made an oil base suspension??if so please correct me

maxx

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him using some of the more potent fast acting injectables so I opted to use the Oilbased Test Suspension and Trenbolone Acetate from Dpharm. I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot every other day. The whole thing is not completely set up yet and i would love feedback on how to do everything from start to finish but so far it looks something like this. . .

Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension EOD(every other day)
Week 2: 200mg Test Suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 3: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 4: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 5: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 6: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 7: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
So far this is what i have. I know clomid alone will not be enough so I want him on HCG as well, but i am unfamiliar with how the best way to use it other than after the last shots. If anyone can tell me when to start it and how much to take based on my cycle info please advise

 

[deadguy]

I'm also curious about an oil based supsension.

My experience with suspension and also the opinions of others here require it to be taken everyday for optimal results. Tren acetate can be spread over two days effectively, but suspension needs to be done everyday. 100 susp. ED/tren 150ED throughout would be an awesome cycle with fabulous results. Just tell him to get used to sticking himself everyday.

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him using some of the more potent fast acting injectables so I opted to use the Oilbased Test Suspension and Trenbolone Acetate from Dpharm. I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot every other day. The whole thing is not completely set up yet and i would love feedback on how to do everything from start to finish but so far it looks something like this. . .

Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension EOD(every other day)
Week 2: 200mg Test Suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 3: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 4: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 5: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 6: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 7: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
So far this is what i have. I know clomid alone will not be enough so I want him on HCG as well, but i am unfamiliar with how the best way to use it other than after the last shots. If anyone can tell me when to start it and how much to take based on my cycle info please advise

 

[maxx]

also remember that suspension is the real deal(pure test).100mg of susp. dont equal 100mg test cyp.ect...because of the ester.

maxx

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him using some of the more potent fast acting injectables so I opted to use the Oilbased Test Suspension and Trenbolone Acetate from Dpharm. I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot every other day. The whole thing is not completely set up yet and i would love feedback on how to do everything from start to finish but so far it looks something like this. . .

Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension EOD(every other day)
Week 2: 200mg Test Suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 3: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 4: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 5: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 6: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 7: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
So far this is what i have. I know clomid alone will not be enough so I want him on HCG as well, but i am unfamiliar with how the best way to use it other than after the last shots. If anyone can tell me when to start it and how much to take based on my cycle info please advise

 

[sest250]

Hey juicestop,man iam on a similar cycle rightnow looks like this BTW this is all homebrew and my susp. is oilbase made with MrTs
susp-100mg ED
tren-100mg ED
prop-100mg ED
Nan phen-100mg ed
it does suck getting stuck Ed but the results are trumendous this is by far the best cycle ive ever done

 

[maxx]

Hey juicestop,man iam on a similar cycle rightnow looks like this BTW this is all homebrew and my susp. is oilbase made with MrTs
susp-100mg ED
tren-100mg ED
prop-100mg ED
Nan phen-100mg ed
it does suck getting stuck Ed but the results are trumendous this is by far the best cycle ive ever done

why are you using prop and susp?

maxx

 

[juicestop]

sorry it took me so long to get back on the board, yes Dpharm does make a test suspension in oil.It's a 20ml bottle and the concentration is 100mg/ml. In anabolics 2004 i read it can be taken anywhere between every day and every third day and still be effective kind of like winstrol since neither have an ester, but i figured every other day would be perfect. As for the frequent injections this guy was already doing 250 mg of test enanthate EOD so the poking wasnt a problem. He wasn't taking nolvadex and still rolled 1000 mg of test a week with no side effects, so i figure 800 mg a week of suspension is about the equivlent though more potent. No one has responded about the HCG fitting in yet, thats the only thing i havnt figured out how to add in properly so anyone please help, thank you

 

[THL]

1st of all, skip the pyrimid shit. No need to taper up and down.

2nd, just as other guys have said, suspension needs to be shot ed, and
tren is more effective ed than eod.

Has your buddy cycled before? If not, this might not be the best choice for
him. Cyp/enanth/sust would be much easier and he would still get great results.

Give me some more info on your buddy and I'll help you out a little more.

THL

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him using some of the more potent fast acting injectables so I opted to use the Oilbased Test Suspension and Trenbolone Acetate from Dpharm. I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot every other day. The whole thing is not completely set up yet and i would love feedback on how to do everything from start to finish but so far it looks something like this. . .

Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension EOD(every other day)
Week 2: 200mg Test Suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 3: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 4: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 5: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 6: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 7: 200mg Test suspension/75mg Tren EOD
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
So far this is what i have. I know clomid alone will not be enough so I want him on HCG as well, but i am unfamiliar with how the best way to use it other than after the last shots. If anyone can tell me when to start it and how much to take based on my cycle info please advise

 

[joe shmoe]

when using hCG, you'll want it to clear about the same time that the AAS clears...while using the hCG for 10 days. so i would start shooting hCG about 8 days before the last shot. so his last shot of hCG would be 2 days after his last tren/susp shot. then start clomid. hCG should be run about 750-1000 iu's ED.

have a nice day

 

[Thaoilman]

gotta shoot that combo Ed, ugg..Shots start to suck after awhile...I don't think you could beat that combo though...Susp and tren blow ya up!

 

[Deacon]

I'd use prop and tren anyway - susp is not a good drug for long time cycling IMO

 

[sest250]

why are you using prop and susp?

maxx

I just cant let it set around LOL

 

[juicestop]

1st of all, skip the pyrimid shit. No need to taper up and down.

2nd, just as other guys have said, suspension needs to be shot ed, and
tren is more effective ed than eod.

Has your buddy cycled before? If not, this might not be the best choice for
him. Cyp/enanth/sust would be much easier and he would still get great results.

Give me some more info on your buddy and I'll help you out a little more.

THL

Well my buddy started before i even met him and i'd say hes been on 18 months straight. Needless to say he's done a lot of shit now. Currently he's taking 100mg of Dpharm winni EOD, 600mg of Deca a week, and 40mg of D-bol a day. In a couple weeks he will discontinue use of all these and start HCG/Clomid therapy as he will need it for sure. Im making him take a 2 month clean out at the minimum.
So far i've resdesigned his cycle to look like this after what you all have told me
Week 1: 100mg Test Suspension ED
Week 2: 100mg Test Suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 3: 100mg Test suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 4: 100mg Test suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 5: 100mg Test suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 6: 100mg Test suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 7: 100mg Test suspension/32.5mg Tren ED
Week 8: 100mg Test suspension EOD
Week 9: 50mg Test suspension EOD plus 1000iu HCG ED
Week 10: 50mg Clomid taken every day 1000iu HCG ED
Week 11: 50mg Clomid taken every day
**Nolvadex taken twice daily from week 2-9
Now most of you will laugh at the 32.5mg of tren, this is half cc of the Tren 75. This is still 225mg a week which is an optimal dose in my opinion. I know some of you will tell me to use double that but for safety reasons this is what I have chosen. If theres no problem here we will bump it up next cycle. Once again any for opinions for my "updated" cycle are greatly appreciated

 

[deadguy]

Well my buddy started before i even met him and i'd say hes been on 18 months straight. Needless to say he's done a lot of shit now. Currently he's taking 100mg of Dpharm winni EOD, 600mg of Deca a week, and 40mg of D-bol a day.
Now most of you will laugh at the 32.5mg of tren, this is half cc of the Tren 75. This is still 225mg a week which is an optimal dose in my opinion. I know some of you will tell me to use double that but for safety reasons this is what I have chosen. If theres no problem here we will bump it up next cycle. Once again any for opinions for my "updated" cycle are greatly appreciated

Bro, this is from experience. 75mg tren EOD is not going to do much. Optimal dose is 75-100 ED. Also, as THL said, NO PYRAMID!! Pointless when using Susupension and tren ( I think it's pointless anyway). Joe Schmoe was right on about the HCG. I have done this cycle, except i was taking 120mg suspension ED and 120mg tren ED. I KNOW it works this way. Run it for 10 weeks, do the suspension at 100mg/ED and the tren 75mg ED. No tapering! Your natural levels will be shut down regardless of how you taper it down. HCG will take care of you.

One other question...since you laid out his cycle, and are MAKING him take 2 months off, are you going to be sticking the needles in his ass for him too??

 

[N4cer]

A buddy wanted me do design a cycle for him...
I figure that since there both oil he can mix them in 1 shot

The comment on them both being oil tells me that he probably should be asking someone else about how to design a cycle.
Your post indicates that you *THINK* you can't mix water-based and oil-based, when in all actuality, there's no reason you can't.
I'm concerned for your buddy. Maybe you should point him toward the boards for some better advice.

 

[rdifo]

Now most of you will laugh at the 32.5mg of tren, this is half cc of the Tren 75. This is still 225mg a week which is an optimal dose in my opinion. I know some of you will tell me to use double that but for safety reasons this is what I have chosen.

If your buddy is gonna be taking 100mg of suspension ED I wouldn't really worry about the risks of adding an extra 32.5mg of tren. Tell him to go with a full 75mg
of tren ED...he'll be very happy with the results.

 

[juicestop]

If your buddy is gonna be taking 100mg of suspension ED I wouldn't really worry about the risks of adding an extra 32.5mg of tren. Tell him to go with a full 75mg
of tren ED...he'll be very happy with the results.

will do, 75mg of Tren a day it is, and if i tohught he was smart enough to use a computer i would have him use the boards. But he is smart enough to stick the needles in his own ass, thank god!!!!!

 

[dodah]

getting ready to start similier cycle. my cycle is like this
75mg tren ed
100mg suspension ed (water based)
800mg eq per week

do i need the prop in there? or would that be over kill?

i know its a heafty one..

 

[Deacon]

just one more point - suspension is meant for lifters just prior to a meet for that last big burst of strength with no change in body weight - it clears quickly so some even used it prior to tested meets

it does not lend itself to long cycling - go with a slower oil based ester - prop at the least


Okay I shut up now

 

[dodah]

didn't know that about susp. i have the option of taking prop/tren mix instead of the tren/susp. what to do, what to do..gotta gain 30 lbs in 5 months..which onr should i do guys you have never steared me wrong