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Well, dantrolene is the treatment for malignant hyperthermia (the cause of death from DNP OD); but there exists no dedicated reversal agent for the compound.
To my understanding; dantrolene is more of a symptomatic treatment rather than the cure; and only time without hyperthermia is curative while the chemical clears.
There was some very recent research I read last year that just painted an ominous picture of DNP overdose regardless of medical intervention. the title of one of them was "Dantrolene is not the answer..." or something like that.
I would assume that not all ODs result in death; but I think some degree of disability is certain with overdose.
Medicine is not my field of expertise; but I read and studied it enough to give the compound the highest level of respect and attention to detail.

On the other hand: I believe, if used in moderation in respect to dosage and time, DNP is one of the better products for fat loss; in that, it has no adverse effects on the heart. Sibutramine, phentermine, and the other stimulant medications seem to all have some increased risk of cardiovascular problems.
And don't get me started on clenbuterol: I know people love it but the only time I was ever really concerned for my life from a drug was after my first and only dose of clenbuterol. A man's heartbeat should not shake the bed while trying to sleep-----this I know for sure.:eek:


"We present a case of a healthy 25-year-old girl who took two tablets of DNP, purchased from an overseas online retailer. She was managed with aggressive, invasive cooling measures and 2.5 mg kg–1 dantrolene. Despite this, her temperature continued to rise exponentially to 41.5°C. Cardiac arrest occurred and resuscitation was unsuccessful. To our knowledge, this is the first reported case of the ineffective use of dantrolene in acute DNP poisoning. We review the pathophysiology of DNP toxicity and argue that the use of dantrolene therapy is biochemically implausible, based on poor evidence and likely to be futile. We have contacted the UK National Poisons Information Service (NPIS/TOXBASE) to propose changes to the management of acute DNP toxicity."



"2,4 Dinitrophenol Associated Hyperthermia Treated Successfully with Dantrolene

Louise Kao, James Mowry Indiana University, Indianapolis, IN, USA

Background: 2,4 Dinitrophenol (DNP) has well known toxicity. Dantrolene has been been successfully used in a single case report. We report another case of dantrolene use for DNP associated hyperthermia. Case report: 22 year old previously healthy male was found confused and diaphoretic. Upon arrival to the Emergency Department, he related that 4 hours prior he had taken a double dose of his bodybuilding supplements. Bottles provided included hydroxyzine, creatine, taurine, levothyroxine, and DNP. On presentation, his initial vital signs were normal other than mild tachycardia at 113 bpm. He was confused, diaphoretic and tremulous. The remainder of exam was unremarkable. Initial laboratory evaluation: Sodium 139 mmol.L, Potassium 4.1 mmol/L, Chloride 109 mmol/L, CO2 18 mmol/L, BUN 34 mmol/L, Creatinine 2.11 mmol/L, Glucose 499 mg/dL, TSH and T4 both in normal range, and Creatine phosphokinase 456 units/L. Toxicology testing including ethanol, acetaminophen, aspirin, and urine drug screen containing amphetamine, methamphetamine, barb, benzo, cannabinoid, cocaine, opiate, PCP were negative. 8 hours after hospital arrival, he was increasingly disoriented with severe respiratory distress. His vital signs were: T 38.6oC; HR 113 bpm; BP 114/45; RR 63 breaths/min; oxygen saturation 97% on 4 Liters of oxygen. He required intubation for respiratory failure. He was given dantrolene 180 mg intravenously. Temperature reached a maximum of 40.0oC. He received two additional doses of dantrolene over the next 10 hours for a total of 7 mg/kg. Hyperthermia resolved. He was extubated on hospital day #4 and discharged on hospital day #6 in good condition. Discussion: DNP has had a rise in popularity due to internet availability. DNP causes uncoupling of oxidative phosphorylation and clinical effects include hyperthermia, tachycardia, diaphoresis, and in fatal cases cardiovascular collapse. Dantrolene has been successfully used in a single published case report to our knowledge. Dantrolene may ameliorate the hypermetabolic state in DNP toxicity by lessening excitation-contraction coupling in muscle cells and thus attenuate hyperthermia. Conclusion: We present a case of DNP associated hyperthermia, successfully treated with dantrolene in addition to good supportive measures. This case adds to the sparse existing published evidence for the use of dantrolene in DNP toxicity."










It seems there are mixed results. Regardless, I would not expect dantrolene to save your life from a DNP overdose. Dantrolene is meant to treat malignant hyperthermia caused by volatile gaseous anesthesia in people who are genetically susceptible. Trying to treat anything else with it is a gamble.
"Dantrolene has been successfully used in a single published case report to our knowledge."
 
Well, dantrolene is the treatment for malignant hyperthermia (the cause of death from DNP OD); but there exists no dedicated reversal agent for the compound.
To my understanding; dantrolene is more of a symptomatic treatment rather than the cure; and only time without hyperthermia is curative while the chemical clears.
There was some very recent research I read last year that just painted an ominous picture of DNP overdose regardless of medical intervention. the title of one of them was "Dantrolene is not the answer..." or something like that.
I would assume that not all ODs result in death; but I think some degree of disability is certain with overdose.
Medicine is not my field of expertise; but I read and studied it enough to give the compound the highest level of respect and attention to detail.

On the other hand: I believe, if used in moderation in respect to dosage and time, DNP is one of the better products for fat loss; in that, it has no adverse effects on the heart. Sibutramine, phentermine, and the other stimulant medications seem to all have some increased risk of cardiovascular problems.
And don't get me started on clenbuterol: I know people love it but the only time I was ever really concerned for my life from a drug was after my first and only dose of clenbuterol. A man's heartbeat should not shake the bed while trying to sleep-----this I know for sure.:eek:
To those who deliberately OD on the stuff, taking 2000+ mg, I would imagine Dantrolene would do little to nothing to help. To the “mild” OD I would think there would be good chances of recovery. Regardless, I applaud you for the steps you take to ensure this is dosed accurately.
 
I could ask you the same question it seems you like attacking women? Mommy issues maybe. I’ll make you the poster boy for mysogony.
what's your previous meso handle? I ask only because I'm curious to know if you're a drugged up Canadian or a passive aggressive Rocky mountain Zen wannabe? I'm guessing passive aggressive wannabe based on your threat to expose OS.

"Gladly put your shit out there"

That's one hell of a statement. You reference the term coward yet you delete your post. Telling.

Please, expand on OS going after females? Reference to Kim? Why would OS annoying a member online necessitate the release of his personal info? Or did you not mean his personal info when you reference "putting all his shit up here"?

OS can certainly handle himself, so please hold your comments about me coming to his rescue. I just wanted to take a moment and let you know that you're a giant vagina. Namaste, you fraud.

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They all are 12ml. I made lots of labels before I found the vials I use. Those labels will be all gone after this batch. I think Deca and TPP will be the last ones to have those old labels (slowest moving products).

Nice! Bonus oil lol. Thanks for the quick reply
 
Just wanted to add something from my experience. I ordered and received, thank you Symbiotics. However...

The list had deca at 300. I received 250mg vials. Not the end of the world but a I ordered what I thought was 18k mg and was sent 15k mg. Again not the end of the world but had I known, I would have ordered an extra vial to meet my cycle needs. I’m essentially short 3k mg. My request is to please keep the list accurate. Not bitching but worth mentioning.
 
Just wanted to add something from my experience. I ordered and received, thank you Symbiotics. However...

The list had deca at 300. I received 250mg vials. Not the end of the world but a I ordered what I thought was 18k mg and was sent 15k mg. Again not the end of the world but had I known, I would have ordered an extra vial to meet my cycle needs. I’m essentially short 3k mg. My request is to please keep the list accurate. Not bitching but worth mentioning.
Idk what list you have but the updated pastebin I have is 250mgs. Did you read through the thread and get the updated pastebin? I think ive only seen it at 250 and think i recall someone asking for 300, could be wrong. If you show him the error and its a true error on his part im sure he will be happy to compensate. I’d email him.
 
The list was updated shortly after my order. It was a hyperlink to the pastebin. Essentially he’d have to take my word for it. Not too worried because overall I got squared away. I’ll just order more lol.
 
Just wanted to add something from my experience. I ordered and received, thank you Symbiotics. However...

The list had deca at 300. I received 250mg vials. Not the end of the world but a I ordered what I thought was 18k mg and was sent 15k mg. Again not the end of the world but had I known, I would have ordered an extra vial to meet my cycle needs. I’m essentially short 3k mg. My request is to please keep the list accurate. Not bitching but worth mentioning.
That's a legit complaint.
My order was a little fat, and it was appreciated.
 
I could ask you the same question it seems you like attacking women? Mommy issues maybe. I’ll make you the poster boy for mysogony.

Wow you’re random aren’t you? Go suck the titties of that fat white cow you call a mother. :)

Respond again and I’ll have someone look your shit up too and post everything about you online for everyone to see, how bout dahhhh?

Cancer prone free gear mongering shill :)

LMFAO I knew those cucks couldn’t handle a few memes owning trump without breaking charecter and typing rage parogrpahs/rants.

Sensitive ass pussies

“THEY STARTED IT”. Lol typical pussy ass snowflake alt right dweebs that claim to be emotionless bad asses.

Spend all your time crying about liberals on the internet while pretending you used to be one when in reality you’ve always been a biased alt right shrimp dick chump who’s voice is confined to being expressed through inaccurate memes on the internet because you have no courage :D

Death to the alt right death to maga fuck trump

Something got you feeling like super man?

I’m not about talking trash on the internet.

If anything you’re the one acting tough coming in here jumping in other peoples business. If you want some time to shine just let me know girl I’ll give you every opportunity to call me a tough guy to my fucking face.

All this trash about being a keyboard warrior not smart enough to realize he’s coming in here being disrespectful his damn self. Lol Punk ass we can talk in person this doesn’t have to be any internet shit so keep running your fucking dick trap @Omegistosalex you’re going to get the attention you’re looking for PUSSY ass little kid

90 year old man? LOL Hey if you wanna talk about balls and standing up we can talk in person. I’m not a soft little conservative cuck down for talking shit through text we can meet up and you can talk about someone not having balls to my face if you want. :D

Keep in mind I know everything about you already while you continue to yap
You really contribute here dont you? Lol. You are just a scorned member that got his fucking teeth kicked in on a fucking internet forum. I bet you suck at plumbing.
 
You really contribute here dont you? Lol. You are just a scorned member that got his fucking teeth kicked in on a fucking internet forum. I bet you suck at plumbing.

How does one get their teeth kicked in on an internet forum... you do realize that is physcially impossible no matter what. right?

You need some AI man... You're e2 is skyrocketted through the rough typing like a bitch for as long as I've been in this thread.
 
Just wanted to put in here regarding his DHB that this far there’s been really no pip. 2mls each thigh. Flowed very well through a 1/2” 29g needle. All I have to report on it for now. Will do a stupid high dose of Dbol pre gym to see if I get the usual sides I get on that stuff in a couple hours

2ml each thigh on separate days? Whats a stupid high dose of Dbol? Curious.
I'll be running DHB in a couple months from sym. Good to know pip is minimal. Though worried about how I'll react to the 50% of EO oil in it. I'll be trying a small amount soon. EQ didn't do much for me last blast.
 
How does one get their teeth kicked in on an internet forum... you do realize that is physcially impossible no matter what. right?

You need some AI man... You're e2 is skyrocketted through the rough typing like a bitch for as long as I've been in this thread.
5'11 and 180 pound bitch ass talking shit again. Lol. On ignore you go. Fucking toothpick. LMFAO
 
2ml each thigh on separate days? Whats a stupid high dose of Dbol? Curious.
I'll be running DHB in a couple months from sym. Good to know pip is minimal. Though worried about how I'll react to the 50% of EO oil in it. I'll be trying a small amount soon. EQ didn't do much for me last blast.

So I’ve run the Thai anabol (5mg pinks) at 100mg per day (4 weeks), but to feel BP sides I’ll take 200mg day 1. Right now major BP related headache on par with past experiences. With anadrol and Dbol that’s my standard “test” as I always will have bp related sides at particular dosages. As I said, stupid as hell dose but I know myself and get bloodwork every 30 days.

Yes two different days, well about 16 hours apart, as I didn’t want to risk crippling myself (I’ve had dhb have crippling pip where the muscle didn’t want to work properly). No issues thus far but I don’t have issues with EO either. Going to run 500mg per week for 8 weeks, along side 250 test c. 62.5/125 4 injection per week.


EDIT: I did forget to add that I’m also taking 25mg of mk677 primarily for the better sleep and the hunger.
 
would ya'll junk up another thread instead fucking this one to hell?? fucking shit...this is a god damn internet thread, you're not fighting, nobody wins. but, if you insist on being keyboard warriors, do it somewhere else. fuck.
It's nauseating. I like to follow this thread for updates on quality, TA, pricing etc... shit specific to the sources product and service and most people are a value add.

Now it's to the point where I just click on Syms post history and fuck all this shit. TGI shit show reprise.
 
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