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Masterofron said:
That was someone I know, it didn’t happen to me as I mentioned repeatedly. I Don’t even use HGH... Big thanks to the moron who twisted that story around in an effort to protect their precious discord sources
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YOU placed the order for your “friend”. Then blamed the source for being hot. Was a bit hard to believe consider this is your 3rd knock. Two within the last year

oh, and it’s not a discord source. He’s sources here
 
Masterofron said:
Nobody knocked on my door for anything, nothing was sent to me...
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Again though, you placed the order. Used your email and coin. Then came demanding the source be banned. The source I may add has been at this for many years and yours is the only incident of its nature.

Anywho, just thought I’d clear that up.
 
B Ware said:
Again though, you placed the order. Used your email and coin. Then came demanding the source be banned. The source I may add has been at this for many years and yours is the only incident of its nature.

Anywho, just thought I’d clear that up.
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Right, he doesn’t use bitcoin so he had me do it for him. I don’t know how that translates into me being involved in the actual incident, and not once did I demand he be banned. If you’d like too see the story in full context just message me.

Your wrong about that being the only incident of its nature with that source, I thought I also made that clear but apparently not. Anyways..
 
Masterofron said:
Right, he doesn’t use bitcoin so he had me do it for him. I don’t know how that translates into me being involved in the actual incident, and not once did I demand he be banned. If you’d like too see the story in full context just message me.

Your wrong about that being the only incident of its nature with that source, I thought I also made that clear but apparently not. Anyways..
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Gotcha, your post said you’d only had the two knocks. Which is two more than anyone here I believe. But you’d left out how you placed a order for a “buddy” (is that better) and your buddy got a knock. So really that’s 3 knocks from orders you’ve placed, correct?

There may be other incidents but none that have been brought publicly I believe.
 
B Ware said:
Gotcha, your post said you’d only had the two knocks. Which is two more than anyone here I believe. But you’d left out how you placed a order for a “buddy” (is that better) and your buddy got a knock. So really that’s 3 knocks from orders you’ve placed, correct?

There may be other incidents but none that have been brought publicly I believe.
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That’s correct thank you for being civil about it. I think situations like this should always be public, that’s why I bother to mention it in the first place especially with the most recent one. If I felt in any way that that was related to me the last thing I would do is post somewhere publicly about it, I’m not retarded. The first made sense to me, vis vires went down and a bunch of people got either phone calls or visits, which seem to be happening more frequently lately. The second with symbiotics I never understood why, but it always was astonished how quickly everyone was to blame me for it instead of the drug dealer as you guys call them (which they are). With the exception of @BigBaldBeardGuy it seems everyone brushed that incident off.

it is Saturday am going on a date, I’ll check meso in a bit ✌
 
Masterofron said:
I’ll add that I’ve never had issues besides these two scenarios, both over very small personal amounts of gear, though I’ve heard of a handful of people having the same thing happen as if recently..

lastly, I recall you specifically mentioning that you didn’t believe any of it until the same thing happened to someone you knew, why didn’t you mention that in your first post today?
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I'd have to go re read my posts and try and remember what I was thinking.
I said I didn't believe any of what YOU said until the same thing happened to someone I knew? If I get a couple of minutes I'll go back and find our posts.
There was an incident that played out here on meso almost as things were happening on the street. Member @Wunderpus had a good friend receive a domestic order from a member that started a ugl and it was either a controlled delivery or his friend got a visit from a Postal Inspector....I believe it was the former?
This was a few years back. Wunder called or text me asking what I thought needed to happen. He was wanting to protect other members who had orders coming and if the source was now compromised what was the next move.
We decided to post what was happening immediately to give other members all possible info so they could make an informed decision. The source/member was a longtime member and the writing style of whoever was posting that day was much different than the style we had come to know. I was convinced the handle was under the control of LE. Good times.
I may have been referring to that? I think there was something more recent that had happened that I have forgotten about?
LE is changing the way they deal with UGL's...and its not for the better.
They are sending "Target Letters" to individuals. This used to be reserved for White Collar Criminals. The feds are interviewing guys and then letting things alone for a while.
Happened to a source I had been friendly with since before he started sourcing. He was paid a visit from the feds. He was interviewed without an attorney present.
He was allowed to sleep in his bed that night. With each passing day he felt more confident that he had made it safely out of the line of fire.
Two months after he was interviewed he was indicted. RoidVisor.com posted the story across the Community.
As was the case before, I'm not trying to fuck with you, Masterofron. You just happened to be the guy who got the visit. You also didn't have to tell us about it. I commend you for coming forward with the info.
 
biggerben69 said:
The member said he was asked questions regarding the source and what, exactly, he knew about the source.
Said the fed made it clear he was not after the end user but the source shipping.

That's going off my questionable memory. One thing worth noting....the member who was visited had been visited by a Postal Inspector in the past. I found that troubling. The member stood up to questioning and without any other backround on the member as far as his Station in this Life, etc..the story was accepted as plausible with more than meets the eye going on in the backround.
It always bothered me....the more than 1 visit(was it 3 visits total?) and it being just dumb luck.
I've been shipping and receiving domestic pkg's of the kind sym ships since the 90's. The one time I had a postal Inspector involved was when a Federal Indictment was unsealed with my name on it. I was set up by a customer I had shipped to several times before he was busted by the feds and offered me up as part of his deal to cooperate. The feds made 2 Controlled Buys before my home was raided by the men in ski masks toting machine guns. They kicked in my door and held myself, my girl, and her 18 month old infant at gun point.
Had to serve a 60 month prison term before I was able to breath fresh air again without cuffs and a belly chain on and without a loaded firearm trained on me, ready to cut me down should I attempt to flee.

Saw a guy who, after arriving at FCI Sheridan to serve a 16yr sentence, attempt to escape and pay for it with his life.
Somehow he was able to hide in the kitchen or laundry(it was many years ago) and got outside where deliveries were made. He waited for the vehicle driving around the perimeter to pass and then scaled the first fence. Not sure how he got up and down the first fence as quickly as he did. Adrenaline, probably. Not sure how badly sliced up he was from constantine wire at that point but he made it to the top of the 2nd fence and got caught up on constantine wire. He was shot dead before getting any further.

I digress. I don't remember the exact spelling of the unlucky members handle? Moreforon or something? As i said, I believe there is more going on with that member who attracts so much attention from the feds. Maybe he's involved in another business that uses the USPS to send or receive some sort of questionable if not outright illegal product? I don't know?
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How'd they manage to find you from the controlled buys? Were you using your real return address? Or the customer knew of your identity?
 
biggerben69 said:
I'd have to go re read my posts and try and remember what I was thinking.
I said I didn't believe any of what YOU said until the same thing happened to someone I knew? If I get a couple of minutes I'll go back and find our posts.
There was an incident that played out here on meso almost as things were happening on the street. Member @Wunderpus had a good friend receive a domestic order from a member that started a ugl and it was either a controlled delivery or his friend got a visit from a Postal Inspector....I believe it was the former?
This was a few years back. Wunder called or text me asking what I thought needed to happen. He was wanting to protect other members who had orders coming and if the source was now compromised what was the next move.
We decided to post what was happening immediately to give other members all possible info so they could make an informed decision. The source/member was a longtime member and the writing style of whoever was posting that day was much different than the style we had come to know. I was convinced the handle was under the control of LE. Good times.
I may have been referring to that? I think there was something more recent that had happened that I have forgotten about?
LE is changing the way they deal with UGL's...and its not for the better.
They are sending "Target Letters" to individuals. This used to be reserved for White Collar Criminals. The feds are interviewing guys and then letting things alone for a while.
Happened to a source I had been friendly with since before he started sourcing. He was paid a visit from the feds. He was interviewed without an attorney present.
He was allowed to sleep in his bed that night. With each passing day he felt more confident that he had made it safely out of the line of fire.
Two months after he was interviewed he was indicted. RoidVisor.com posted the story across the Community.
As was the case before, I'm not trying to fuck with you, Masterofron. You just happened to be the guy who got the visit. You also didn't have to tell us about it. I commend you for coming forward with the info.
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No worries man. It’s somewhere in this thread but I do specifically recall you standing up for my story based off of a similar experience which had recently (recent as in around the time this all happened, not recent in present time) to someone you know personally.

I’ve got no problems with you and I usually always find value in your posts on meso, even if they are a bit longer than what my attention span allows for.

I know my opinion might not be popular here but I do think that this whole floater issue is a giant sign for you @SymBiotics . Perhaps your god or higher power is trying to give you a warning of some kind so you can stop before anything more serious happens.

A month or two ago when the returned package situation happened I immediately thought that was LE. Even with the massive amount of morons that frequent meso I can’t imagine anyone would willingly write return to sender on a small domestic piece of mail. I’ve read a few situations where people have denied darknetmarket packages before during an LE visit and in some cases “returned by recipient” or whatever was what tracking showed afterwards.. not everyone wants to come forward publicly with that type of stuff and I completely understand why, but regardless it happens and it happens all the time. I personally believe that it’s happened more than once with this source..

In the last 10 pages or so 2 members have mentioned they’ve gotten a card and a phone call before from LE/postal inspectors, unrelated to this source but still the point stands, it happens and it’s not as rare as it seems.
 
oceanus99 said:
How'd they manage to find you from the controlled buys? Were you using your real return address? Or the customer knew of your identity?
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I had known the customer for some time. We knew each other before I had started sourcing. This was 2007.
The feds took control of the board. After playing catch-up for several years as far as putting together a line of defense to combat illegal substance sales like they have on the streets, they made a move that was far beyond my level of sophistication. They "Mirrored" the board. I''d log on and nothing appeared different?
In reality the feds were capturing and reading every post that was made and every private msg that was sent and replied to.
It was an open board. Anyone could register and become a member. There was a private part of the forum that was accessible only to VIP members. Regular members had no idea there was this private part of the board. It was where board sponsors(sources) had their threads with their price/product lists.
There was also a VIP Classified section where guys could buy sell or trade extra vials. Then a VIP Discussion forum where subjects that weren't appropriate to be discussed on the open board could be talked about. Its similar to the way many of the boards that are in existence today are run.
VIP, Gold, Vet or whatever lingo a board uses to rank its members implies a level of trust that not all enjoy. In our Community, it isn't a label or level that can be purchased. With the label comes a measure of respect as well as trust. Once the VIP label is given on one board, other forums a member visits usually follow suit.
It isn't a club that's easy to gain entry to. Its a relatively small group of members and the same core group seem to be on most of the higher traffic boards with a handful of names that will be exclusive to each board(meaning certain vips stay put and don't visit other boards while the core group I mentioned seem to everywhere).
VIP members are careful not to reference the private forum and it is forbidden to discuss the private forum openly.
Anyway, the board that was Mirrored was called anonymousbodybuilding.co* Its no longer with us.
 
biggerben69 said:
I had known the customer for some time. We knew each other before I had started sourcing. This was 2007.
The feds took control of the board. After playing catch-up for several years as far as putting together a line of defense to combat illegal substance sales like they have on the streets, they made a move that was far beyond my level of sophistication. They "Mirrored" the board. I''d log on and nothing appeared different?
In reality the feds were capturing and reading every post that was made and every private msg that was sent and replied to.
It was an open board. Anyone could register and become a member. There was a private part of the forum that was accessible only to VIP members. Regular members had no idea there was this private part of the board. It was where board sponsors(sources) had their threads with their price/product lists.
There was also a VIP Classified section where guys could buy sell or trade extra vials. Then a VIP Discussion forum where subjects that weren't appropriate to be discussed on the open board could be talked about. Its similar to the way many of the boards that are in existence today are run.
VIP, Gold, Vet or whatever lingo a board uses to rank its members implies a level of trust that not all enjoy. In our Community, it isn't a label or level that can be purchased. With the label comes a measure of respect as well as trust. Once the VIP label is given on one board, other forums a member visits usually follow suit.
It isn't a club that's easy to gain entry to. Its a relatively small group of members and the same core group seem to be on most of the higher traffic boards with a handful of names that will be exclusive to each board(meaning certain vips stay put and don't visit other boards while the core group I mentioned seem to everywhere).
VIP members are careful not to reference the private forum and it is forbidden to discuss the private forum openly.
Anyway, the board that was Mirrored was called anonymousbodybuilding.co* Its no longer with us.
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So would @Millard Baker know if Meso Was ever mirrored?
 
Villain said:
So would @Millard Baker know if Meso Was ever mirrored?
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TNotch347 said:
That’s a great question.
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The feds wouldn’t have to mirror this board it’s all out in the open. It’s also google indexed so threads show up on a google search.

I’m not a computer guy but the type of platform this whole board is built on (vBase I think it’s called???) is super easy to “hack” into and read. Simply PMs are not so “private”.

That’s why we always always always call this “anonymous”. Be smart when you PM. Don’t ever give out private info. There’s wickr and secure email for that.

It’s also why we always advise you NOT to fall in love with sources and UGLs, this is for your own protection as well as there’s. You can think they are great, treat them with respect if you want, but they are NOT friends.

We shoot the shit so much on here that it’s very easy to let your guard down and lose OPSEC. Just remember to be smart with it all.
 
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BigBaldBeardGuy said:
The feds wouldn’t have to mirror this board it’s all out in the open. It’s also google indexed so threads show up on a google search.

I’m not a computer guy but the type of platform this whole board is built on (vBase I think it’s called???) is super easy to “hack” into and read. Simply PMs are not so “private”.

That’s why we always always always call this “anonymous”. Be smart when you PM. Don’t ever give out private info. There’s wickr and secure email for that.

It’s also why we always advise you NOT to fall in love with sources and UGLs, this is for your own protection as well as there’s. You can think they are great, treat them with respect if you want, but they are NOT friends.

We shoot the shit so much on here that it’s very easy to let your guard down and lose OPSEC. Just remember to be smart with it all.
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lol
Motherfuckers be handing out their Gmails on PM....
Man, so silly.

We ALL know Meso is monitored by LE.
Fortunatly, we Canadians dont have to worry...but...
Keep safe American bros.
 
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