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Its high but he pulled 48 after pin. I know when I used to go to a clinic way back they pulled my bloods before my next pin. Not sure how much of a drop 5 days would give him but it'd be a bit lower.
Still high imo. High enough to need an AI, and 95% of people on trt with testosterone in acceptable ranges shouldn't need an AI.
 
Still high imo. High enough to need an AI, and 95% of people on trt with testosterone in acceptable ranges shouldn't need an AI.

Maybe. I've been on it for years @200 with 1/4 adex twice a week. That's what a clinic dialed me in at way back. I guess they were concerned with my trough more then the peak.
 
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Maybe. I've been on it for years @200 with 1/4 adex twice a week. That's what a clinic dialed me in at way back. I guess they were concerned with my trough more then the peak.
He measured in the 1900's. With cyps half life do you think he would actually fluctuate below normal, or even close? Of course not. Longevity is the key here and you should shoot for dialing in your hormones in the optimal range.
 
He measured in the 1900's. With cyps half life do you think he would actually fluctuate below normal, or even close? Of course not. Longevity is the key here and you should shoot for dialing in your hormones in the optimal range.

How much will he fall off by day 7? You, me or anyone else can't answer that without bloodwork.
1900 is high at peak and I've not said anything different. I prefer not to guess. I simply said by day 7 they'll be a bit lower and also mentioned to him in his other thread to make sure his other markers are good. He said they are.

My opinion is pull trt levels at day 7 and cycle levels at 48hrs.

Edit. To answer your question I doubt he'd be out of range by day 7
But with his other markers good I don't believe he's at a harmful level now.
 
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How much will he fall off by day 7? You, me or anyone else can't answer that without bloodwork.
1900 is high at peak and I've not said anything different. I prefer not to guess. I simply said by day 7 they'll be a bit lower and also mentioned to him in his other thread to make sure his other markers are good. He said they are.

My opinion is pull trt levels at day 7 and cycle levels at 48hrs.

Edit. To answer your question I doubt he'd be out of range by day 7
But with his other markers good I don't believe he's at a harmful level now.
At 1900+levels in any day checked on trt levels are high and if he has to use an AI, that's simply not a healthy dose imo. I fucking don't understand why people want to run their levels that high on a continuous basis. Fuck I'm on a cycle at that level.
 
At 1900+levels in any day checked on trt levels are high and if he has to use an AI, that's simply not a healthy dose imo. I fucking don't understand why people want to run their levels that high on a continuous basis. Fuck I'm on a cycle at that level.
Here is a post that a member made while doing a ugl Test cyp vs Westward pharma Test cyp comparison. These are the 3 bloodwork tests from the pharma test at 47.5, 95.5 and 146 (roughly 6 days) hours post injection. It was surprising how quickly the levels dropped throughout the testing period.

Pharma vs tsl at 750mg weekweek

edit: @Sp2.0
 
At 1900+levels in any day checked on trt levels are high and if he has to use an AI, that's simply not a healthy dose imo. I fucking don't understand why people want to run their levels that high on a continuous basis. Fuck I'm on a cycle at that level.
I do appreciate the concern. I am gonna drop my test some bc it is higher than I thought, this is just my first bloodwork bc I wanted to start doing things the right way instead of guessing. @Sp2.0 and other members were giving me advice in my other thread.
 
I do appreciate the concern. I am gonna drop my test some bc it is higher than I thought, this is just my first bloodwork bc I wanted to start doing things the right way instead of guessing. @Sp2.0 and other members were giving me advice in my other thread.

I apologize @BigRed91 for not tagging you in my prior post above

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Edit: following the drop in hormone levels in those tests, you may be right in the correct range in the trough (6 days post injection) which is where trt clinics test at
 
I apologize @BigRed91 for not tagging you in my prior post above

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Edit: following the drop in hormone levels in those tests, you may be right in the correct range in the trough (6 days post injection) which is where trt clinics test at
Oh ok I didnt know they tested 6 days post injection for trt. Others suggested doing two injections a week to keep things more stable so I may start doing that as well. But then ill have to figure out when to draw bloods and what the levels should be bc im new to bloodwork.
 
Here is a post that a member made while doing a ugl Test cyp vs Westward pharma Test cyp comparison. These are the 3 bloodwork tests from the pharma test at 47.5, 95.5 and 146 (roughly 6 days) hours post injection. It was surprising how quickly the levels dropped throughout the testing period.

Pharma vs tsl at 750mg weekweek

edit: @Sp2.0
You can't go by this. Some users were getting total testosterone readings in the 10000 range on only 750mg per week off of TSL's testosterone and then 2 batches later folks were coming in low as fuck. His shit was far from accurately dosed gear.
 
You can't go by this. Some users were getting total testosterone readings in the 10000 range on only 750mg per week off of TSL's testosterone and then 2 batches later folks were coming in low as fuck. His shit was far from accurately dosed gear.
His first set was pharma that shows a drastic drop over the 3 sets.
 
You can't go by this. Some users were getting total testosterone readings in the 10000 range on only 750mg per week off of TSL's testosterone and then 2 batches later folks were coming in low as fuck. His shit was far from accurately dosed gear.
These tests are from the pharma gear that was prescribed for trt

edit: just read down and saw your next post lol
 
Here is a post that a member made while doing a ugl Test cyp vs Westward pharma Test cyp comparison. These are the 3 bloodwork tests from the pharma test at 47.5, 95.5 and 146 (roughly 6 days) hours post injection. It was surprising how quickly the levels dropped throughout the testing period.

Pharma vs tsl at 750mg weekweek

edit: @Sp2.0
Thanks for that. Cypionate has a half life of around 8 days. I find it hard to believe that his levels would fluctuate like that without something else going on. Thats just one person though. Of course cyp is going to fluctuate but not like that I wouldn't think. It be interesting to see an actual study on bloodwork being done that way on more than one person. My Dr has me on 100 mg every 5 days. My test level was a little over 1100 5th day from the shot. My Dr wasn't too concerned because my other health markers were good. I just had bloodwork done last week. I actually went 6 days on this one so it will be interesting see what it comes back at. I will share it but maybe give me a reminder ;):D.
 
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