T-nation article

[bigdeee973]

I found this article about steroids in bodybuilding apparently the information comes from a pro. I have a question ..if you read the article at the end there is his example of a typical 10 week cycle. Do pros really use that many different compounds or is that cycle bullshit. It just seems like there is a lot of room for problems using so many different compounds ! Take a look...

https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/steroids-what-pro-bodybuilders-are-really-using

 

[brutus79]

That whole bullshit article was to advertise plazma. Bullshit marketing. Pro dosages are.much higher for the most part- they run quite a bit more gh and test... and I am glad they don't actually post these types of articles because lazy fucks not getting results think they aren't running enough gear. 100% of the time it is diet and training and 99% of the time people don't need more than a gram of gear total a week- never more than 2. When you get to the point of trying to maintain 150 lbs OF LEAN BODY MASS over what you normally carry high dosages are necessary- and that is nobody here.

 

[dnoyez]

That article is bullshit and really there is no cookie cutter pro cycles either.Here is what craig titus ran through up to getting his pro card.Unfortunately craig got a murder charge.Honestly with all that gear he was average.I personally believe genetics,alot of the right food and fluids and personalized programing and hard ass training paired with good rest and a good mind.....just might get you a procard.Then after that more than likely the procard may still get you no where.

The cycle was taken from getbig..an old post as craig is old news.



750 mgs of testosterone cypionate per week all the way up to 3 weeks out
750 mgs of enanthate per week up to 3 weeks out
100 mgs of testosterone propionate EOD and switched to 100 mgs of suspension ED for the last 6 weeks
50 mgs of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ED (I don't understand this one)
1.5 cc's of Parabolin EOD
50 mgs of finaplex (DMSO) ED
100 mgs of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ED
8 Andriol ED
8 clenbuterol 2 days on 2 off
3 cc's of winstrol EVERYDAY(not a misprint)
40 mgs of nolvadex ED
4 IU's of Humatrope 5 days on 2 off, he only went up to 6 a day(his gut looked much better when he got his pro card versus now, it's mainly b/c of the gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - )
Humulin N and R(long and short acting)-very serious , you have to time your eating or you're in BIG trouble-I talked to Craig a couple weeks ago and he now mixes R with Humalog b/c the Humalog by itself makes him sick
I don't recall the amount but he used quite a bit of cytadren
3-6 Cytomel ED
40 mgs of Halotestin ED
1 amp of Masteron EOD

Scary huh..some of it dosnt make sense but then again no one here is even near the level that craig was at so we really don't know shit unless we have been there and done it our selves.

 

[ChuckSipes]

is this that "shadow-pro" shit?

honestly, it was pretty see through as soon as they started talking about products to buy. absolutely GENIUS idea but seriously fucked up IMO. the amount of people really wanting to know what kinda cycles pro's do run, what kinda PCT products they use etc is crazy.. hence this geniusness. but i think its a dog act to pretend


my favourite bodybuilding myth is that the pro's in the golden era didn't abuse steroids, that they only used extremely mild doses to get that physique. cmon son

 

[double-leg]

Everyone here post valid points.
Most people don't have the time or money to plan meals, track improvements, cycle training regimes and most importantly rest. Which is the biggest factor. Its hard enough to maintain a solid 35lbs above your base body weight. Imagine trying to train a body with 150lbs of muscle. Thats the problem everyone thinks "i'll do a cycle and look like david wolf in 6 weeks" they dont realise the time, work, or the planning it takes to be just a fraction of the size these men get. Thats the reason most fail.

 

[Wunderpus]

is this that "shadow-pro" shit?

honestly, it was pretty see through as soon as they started talking about products to buy. absolutely GENIUS idea but seriously fucked up IMO. the amount of people really wanting to know what kinda cycles pro's do run, what kinda PCT products they use etc is crazy.. hence this geniusness. but i think its a dog act to pretend


my favourite bodybuilding myth is that the pro's in the golden era didn't abuse steroids, that they only used extremely mild doses to get that physique. cmon son

ESPECIALLY considering the good shit was legal! Those must've been the days...

Imagine walking in and buying primo and dbol straight up! Fuck...

 

[Wunderpus]

That whole bullshit article was to advertise plazma. Bullshit marketing. Pro dosages are.much higher for the most part- they run quite a bit more gh and test... and I am glad they don't actually post these types of articles because lazy fucks not getting results think they aren't running enough gear. 100% of the time it is diet and training and 99% of the time people don't need more than a gram of gear total a week- never more than 2. When you get to the point of trying to maintain 150 lbs OF LEAN BODY MASS over what you normally carry high dosages are necessary- and that is nobody here.

Yes, inject more, work less, that's the mentality

I'm one to talk, though. I'm shooting 3g's a week right now

 

[dnoyez]

Yes, inject more, work less, that's the mentality

I'm one to talk, though. I'm shooting 3g's a week right now

Im right behind you but damn im working hard and forcing my self to eat straight up legit.Can you imagine what it really takes to have a pro card.

 

[double-leg]

Yes, inject more, work less, that's the mentality

I'm one to talk, though. I'm shooting 3g's a week right now

Wow thats high. i take half and my head hurts and get chest pains. I was told if im reacting that way to not pass it. Is this bro science? Idk how people shoot such a high amount

 

[ChuckSipes]

Im right behind you but damn im working hard and forcing my self to eat straight up legit.Can you imagine what it really takes to have a pro card.

MATE it would be one of the most taxing lifestyles ay!!

a lot of people who don't understand steroids/bodybuilding actually do believe that anyone can look like that if they use steroid.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wow thats high. i take half and my head hurts and get chest pains. I was told if im reacting that way to not pass it. Is this bro science? Idk how people shoot such a high amount

1 g test, 1 g eq and 1 g deca. Fairly mild compounds, so it's not a real killer. I wouldn't run that much tren, for example.

 

[dnoyez]

Lifestyle changes will most likely make those dosages possilble...that's the price that presents itself if you want what you want.

 

[bigdeee973]

I would never consider running this much shit just because some article says dude got huge this way...some ppl do I guess though. .I go to the gym with some guys from work they don't use gear aND eat like shut through out the day there just not into it like I am but their consensus is I am only my size because of the gear..it cracks me up..they sit at their desks on their ass for 8hours eating doritos while I eat all the shit we eat salmon egg whites the usual..and they wonder why they don't see results..while I do ..they just blame my gear they can't see past it to my diet or any of that stuff

 

[ChuckSipes]

I would never consider running this much shit just because some article says dude got huge this way...some ppl do I guess though. .I go to the gym with some guys from work they don't use gear aND eat like shut through out the day there just not into it like I am but their consensus is I am only my size because of the gear..it cracks me up..they sit at their desks on their ass for 8hours eating doritos while I eat all the shit we eat salmon egg whites the usual..and they wonder why they don't see results..while I do ..they just blame my gear they can't see past it to my diet or any of that stuff

man 90% of the world are ignorant like that.. thats why you should never tell people you're on gear, everyone just assumes its cheating which really does my head in. if it were really as easy as using a drug and BOOM you look like a demigod then 80% of dudes would look like old roman statues

 

[double-leg]

Some people can take that kind of cycle others can't. Thats why pro level bodybuilder deserves respect 10-20 years of training and alteast half on heavy aas! Thats amazing! Just think of the will power it takes to eat clean. Take clen and t3, sweating your balls of and shaking like a fucking leaf all day.
Thats a hard life if you ask me.
If you never meet a pro BB you cant imagine how much bigger they are in person. Drugs are helping. But, its mostly training and diet. FFucking people have the balls to disrespect BBing they couldn't live one day in the life of a bbing pro

 

[XKawN]

Seems like every article I read on tnation starts out promising and then about halfway through comes the biotest sales pitch, lol.