Taking HGH without anabolics

[nxckf]

So I’m aware that HGH is not anabolic in nature and that it does not directly aid in building muscle. I know the other benefits it has as far as sleep, recovery, etc. But is it pointless to take if you’re not also taking anabolic steroids? I know that it’s very synergistic with gear, but by itself do you guys think it’s worth the money?

 

[Ateam2023]

So I’m aware that HGH is not anabolic in nature and that it does not directly aid in building muscle. I know the other benefits it has as far as sleep, recovery, etc. But is it pointless to take if you’re not also taking anabolic steroids? I know that it’s very synergistic with gear, but by itself do you guys think it’s worth the money?

Well starting a thread without a proper introduction in the " new member thread" without anything to go off of is pointless, had you read the rules you would know that is proper protocol around Meso Rx, "New Member Introduction" , and also how old are you?

 

[Laworg]

Hgh is anabolic

 

[Country Club Hero]

I take it with super low dose TRT so yeah there’s a benefit to using it when not on gear. Honestly I’d rather save it for exactly that time if I could only use GH either blasting or cruising. Fortunately I can use GH with both. And usually do about 8-9 months a year.

 

[bob357sig]

I take it with super low dose TRT so yeah there’s a benefit to using it when not on gear. Honestly I’d rather save it for exactly that time if I could only use GH either blasting or cruising. Fortunately I can use GH with both. And usually do about 8-9 months a year.

I don’t run gh but this is exactly what a few of my friends do; use it on cruse as a bit of a bridge so to speak. It is anabolic, just isn’t a hormone. No interference with the HTPA.

 

[eery]

We need more context about the situation its being used in to really answer that, what the expectations are and what dosages we are talking about.


It could give some benefits.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I don’t run gh but this is exactly what a few of my friends do; use it on cruse as a bit of a bridge so to speak. It is anabolic, just isn’t a hormone. No interference with the HTPA.

Pretty much! Yeah it’s just something you can add to make TRT less boring. It makes time between blasts bearable.

 

[wp_375]

I can't find it anymore but I saw a pretty damn impressive Reddit post a few years ago by a guy who couldn't or wouldn't use AAS for some reason but he DID use like 10iu of GH and rapid acting insulin. He had a super impressive physique, like 6' 240 and lean IIRC. Not sure why you would want to handicap yourself like that but it seems like it is possible to get some pretty good gains without including AAS assuming he wasn't pulling everyone's leg.

 

[white-boyka]

Hgh is anabolic

idiot

 

[v3nic]

As someone who takes hgh since the age of 8 i may be experienced with hgh. In terms of just muscle, yes it can help because more hgh usually means more igf1, altough the effect will be mininmal and in my opinion its just a waste of your money. If you are still in your growing phase (height), it can help you to get taller, but i wouldn't use it just for it. Would need more information about you, but short answer: No, not worth your money.

 

[Ghoul]

rHGH is anabolic. Both GH and IGF-1 increase the amount of androgen receptors and boosts their sensitivity to testosterone and DHT.

That’s why those huge Serostim doses, 15-18iu, are used to build lean mass in HIV patients with muscle wasting.

Literally nothing but adequate protein and high rHGH does the job.

 

[nxckf]

Well starting a thread without a proper introduction in the " new member thread" without anything to go off of is pointless, had you read the rules you would know that is proper protocol around Meso Rx, "New Member Introduction" , and also how old are you?

I’m 27. How old are you?

 

[nxckf]

We need more context about the situation its being used in to really answer that, what the expectations are and what dosages we are talking about.


It could give some benefits.

3-4iu a day. Mainly taking it for the sleep and connective tissue benefits. But wondering if it’s doing anything for the training side of things. I guess I should have stated, “not as anabolic” as something like testosterone.

 

[nxckf]

rHGH is anabolic. Both GH and IGF-1 increase the amount of androgen receptors and boosts their sensitivity to testosterone and DHT.

That’s why those huge Serostim doses, 15-18iu, are used to build lean mass in HIV patients with muscle wasting.

Literally nothing but adequate protein and high rHGH does the job.

Not as anabolic as something like testosterone or other AAS is what I should have said. I worded that wrong. Mainly wondering what physique benefits someone could see taking something like 3-6iu for a while. I know that it wouldn’t be transformative like something you would see with AAS, but wondering how it compares to just not using anything at all.

 

[adrenalytic]

Not as anabolic as something like testosterone or other AAS is what I should have said. I worded that wrong. Mainly wondering what physique benefits someone could see taking something like 3-6iu for a while. I know that it wouldn’t be transformative like something you would see with AAS, but wondering how it compares to just not using anything at all.

At your age 3-4 IU/day wouldn't do much other than some fat mobilization and possibly fuck with your insulin sensitivity. But get your natural IGF-1 tested to be sure. A healthy normal adult under 30 would need 8 or more IUs to make a dent. Probably more since you're not on any AAS.

Low replacement doses are more beneficial to the sick or over 40 crowd.

 

[Ateam2023]

I’m 27. How old are you?

52 I was asking your age because maybe you don't need HGH if you're IGF one is acceptable range or it may be defeating the purpose by using HGH if you have a acceptable IGF1, have a grateful day

 

[nxckf]

At your age 3-4 IU/day wouldn't do much other than some fat mobilization. But get your natural IGF-1 tested to be sure. A healthy normal adult under 30 would need 8 or more IUs to make a dent. Probably more since you're not on any AAS.

Low replacement doses are more beneficial to the sick or over 40 crowd.

I’ve been enjoying the great sleep on 4iu. But not sure how much benefit to cost would be there taking the dose that would be required to make a noticeable difference to my physique over time knowing that it could be well over 10ius by the sounds of it. I appreciate the response.

 

[adrenalytic]

I’ve been enjoying the great sleep on 4iu. But not sure how much benefit to cost would be there taking the dose that would be required to make a noticeable difference to my physique over time knowing that it could be well over 10ius by the sounds of it. I appreciate the response.

How is your insulin sensitivity? Have to consider that as part of the trade-off as well.

 

[nxckf]

How is your insulin sensitivity? Have to consider that as part of the trade-off as well.

Insulin sensitivity is looking good as of right now. Got down to around 10%bf this last cut and recently started a gaining phase. FBG is around 75-80 most mornings. Taking 2mg reta per week at the moment to help out that side of things.

 

[bob357sig]

I don’t run gh but this is exactly what a few of my friends do; use it on cruse as a bit of a bridge so to speak. It is anabolic, just isn’t a hormone. No interference with the HTPA.

Dead thread but I wanted to correct myself anyway. When I said it isn’t a hormone, I was intending to say Sex hormone! Obviously the word hormone is in the name; Human Growth Hormone lol. I can’t believe I wasn’t roasted for this