Tamox vs AI for gyno

MONSTRO1977

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Everyone knows what gynecomastia and lipomastia is, and i'm not going to waste time on a complete and boring text, let's get straight to the point. how to treat. ??

First you will need tests to find out the cause, and then the treatment. basic tests are prolactin and estradiol, you need to use drugs to treat this before, or in conjunction with tamox to regress the gland .. Gynecomastia can be treated with AI’s as well, and some people have results with them, plus the side effects and costs are not worth it. The time the gland is formed also influences the treatment outcome. the big problem with gynecomastia is when the glandular tissue is replaced by fibrous tissue (on average 1-2 years), as it does not respond to therapy via drugs so well, in the vast majority of cases it will only come out “by passing the knife”. . Gynecomastia can also (and sometimes must) be treated during a cycle. the sooner you start treatment the better ...

Treatment recommended according to my experience .. (already tested on several people with a positive result) In cases where gynecomastia is in an advanced stage, I suggest starting with 60 mg for one or two weeks. (cases of gynecomastia that are six months or more stabilized.) to the others, 40 mg until you can “break” the whole lump. (until you feel that the lump has really come apart completely) 20 mg to finish (until all the swelling of the nipple is removed and the gynecomastia is cleared).

Tamox and gains regarding the fall of IGF1 I have reports with exams, including a user here on the forum who increased his testo from 600 to over 1100, using only tamox, during treatment of his gynecomastia, which was formed about 5 months ago after a disastrous cycle with only methandrostenolone (Dbol) I honestly think that some comment on tamox decrease gains is bullshit. This is because although tamox acts directly on the ER present in the liver, decreasing IGF-1, it also increases testosterone (acting on the hypothalamus-pituitary). By increasing the supply of testosterone, there will be more peripheral aromatization, so there will be more GH. In the end, nothing is going to change.

Monstro
 
Everyone knows what gynecomastia and lipomastia is, and i'm not going to waste time on a complete and boring text, let's get straight to the point. how to treat. ??

First you will need tests to find out the cause, and then the treatment. basic tests are prolactin and estradiol, you need to use drugs to treat this before, or in conjunction with tamox to regress the gland .. Gynecomastia can be treated with AI’s as well, and some people have results with them, plus the side effects and costs are not worth it. The time the gland is formed also influences the treatment outcome. the big problem with gynecomastia is when the glandular tissue is replaced by fibrous tissue (on average 1-2 years), as it does not respond to therapy via drugs so well, in the vast majority of cases it will only come out “by passing the knife”. . Gynecomastia can also (and sometimes must) be treated during a cycle. the sooner you start treatment the better ...

Treatment recommended according to my experience .. (already tested on several people with a positive result) In cases where gynecomastia is in an advanced stage, I suggest starting with 60 mg for one or two weeks. (cases of gynecomastia that are six months or more stabilized.) to the others, 40 mg until you can “break” the whole lump. (until you feel that the lump has really come apart completely) 20 mg to finish (until all the swelling of the nipple is removed and the gynecomastia is cleared).

Tamox and gains regarding the fall of IGF1 I have reports with exams, including a user here on the forum who increased his testo from 600 to over 1100, using only tamox, during treatment of his gynecomastia, which was formed about 5 months ago after a disastrous cycle with only methandrostenolone (Dbol) I honestly think that some comment on tamox decrease gains is bullshit. This is because although tamox acts directly on the ER present in the liver, decreasing IGF-1, it also increases testosterone (acting on the hypothalamus-pituitary). By increasing the supply of testosterone, there will be more peripheral aromatization, so there will be more GH. In the end, nothing is going to change.

Monstro
Thoughts on roloxafine vs. Tamoxifen?
 
Tamoxifen is 100 miles away for manage gyno instead of AI's IME.

I have some slight gyno from a past cycle. Only tamox can manage it. 2nd day of taking 20mg nolva all gyno symptoms disappear. Not nip sensitivity.

ON the other hand I cant manage it with ai's even with a good dosage of AI and low estro environment , it doesn't do anything for my gyno. Also lower sex drive , and joint pain with AI's.
With nolva no sides only sexy nipples along with masteron
 
Tamoxifen is 100 miles away for manage gyno instead of AI's IME.

I have some slight gyno from a past cycle. Only tamox can manage it. 2nd day of taking 20mg nolva all gyno symptoms disappear. Not nip sensitivity.

ON the other hand I cant manage it with ai's even with a good dosage of AI and low estro environment , it doesn't do anything for my gyno. Also lower sex drive , and joint pain with AI's.
With nolva no sides only sexy nipples along with masteron
So do you always run nolva? I have a little gyno and as soon as I noticed i jumped on nolva 20mg a day and it has helped shrink it but im worried about after the nolva runs out. Does nolva effect the brain cause my mood has been super shitty since I got on it. Idk whether its because of the fact Im not running ai while on nolva or if the nolva blocks e2 from the rest of the body. Also my doc told me not to take ai while on nolva but didnt say why
 
Yeah pretty much is a staple I introduce it when my nipples can't tolerate any more aromatizasion.
I haven't notice any effects from Nolvadex on mood or sex drive. If anything I have better sex drive and mood. AI's kill my sexdrive no matter the dosages so I try to keep them to the minimum.

Get some aromasin and take it some days before you drop the Nolvadex that way you won't have any estrogen to disturb your nipples, after you discontinue the Nolvadex.

Also Nolvadex has a 5-7 days half life keep that in mind. Because overlaps the dosage. My recommendation is to take 20mg Ed and when the gyno and discomfort dissappear completely drop down to 10mg ED or 20mg eod
 
Yeah pretty much is a staple I introduce it when my nipples can't tolerate any more aromatizasion.
I haven't notice any effects from Nolvadex on mood or sex drive. If anything I have better sex drive and mood. AI's kill my sexdrive no matter the dosages so I try to keep them to the minimum.

Get some aromasin and take it some days before you drop the Nolvadex that way you won't have any estrogen to disturb your nipples, after you discontinue the Nolvadex.

Also Nolvadex has a 5-7 days half life keep that in mind. Because overlaps the dosage. My recommendation is to take 20mg Ed and when the gyno and discomfort dissappear completely drop down to 10mg ED or 20mg eod
Right now my e2 is about 110 so when I take ai i still feel pretty good maybe even better at times. I feel like shit when my e2 is in the low 20s high teens
 
Tamoxifen is 100 miles away for manage gyno instead of AI's IME.

I have some slight gyno from a past cycle. Only tamox can manage it. 2nd day of taking 20mg nolva all gyno symptoms disappear. Not nip sensitivity.

ON the other hand I cant manage it with ai's even with a good dosage of AI and low estro environment , it doesn't do anything for my gyno. Also lower sex drive , and joint pain with AI's.
With nolva no sides only sexy nipples along with masteron
Yes when i use tamoxifen on contest prep my nipples and lower chest look much better ( tighter )
 
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