TB 500: does it work? Is it often faked?

[heroish]

I thought TB500 was best suited for post surgery type healing where there is a need for angiogenesis and cell differentiation.

BPC 157 is also good here but has a wider use.

 

[DragoT]

what TB doses were you guys using?

2.5mg (2mg wife) two times a week for a month prior to surgery, 2.0mg (both) once a week for a month post.

 

[Demondosage]

So finally had my first session at physical therapy today. The guy did some needle point therapy to my triceps tendon and ran electro stim through the needles into the tricep just above the elbow. HUGE relief!!! It stimulated the bursa to release some of the inflammation. Then he hit the area with ultrasound after digging into it for a bit. Each day I'm supposed to let my arm straighten out with a towel under my upper arm as a pivot point/fulcrom and hold a light dumbbell for 5 minutes working my way to 10 minutes

I'll be doing the tb500 at maintenance from here on out combined with therapy. The tb500 relieved the pain but the limited mobility issues were still present. I dont want bone spurs so I'm following the protocol and backing off pushing work for the next 3 weeks until I go back. Looks like legs, back, cardio will get increased for now since healing this is the big priority.

 

[X-Peptides]

The cost are minimal for raws, I wouldn't think anyone would even chance to fake it, but you never know.

mands

I believe this is one of the most-faked peptides out there, reason being it's almost the highest-cost product (for us) from our manufacturer. In order to keep costs at least somewhat competitive, it's thus one of our lowest margin products. I believe that there may be some difficulties in manufacturing it to a high standard, based on our experience.

And note about peptides in general:

At the Heart of a Vast Doping Network, an Alias
"The head of Switzerland's antidoping organization told me that his agency's tests have shown that 80 percent of the peptides advertised on the web are adulterated or outright fakes."

 

[mands]

I believe this is one of the most-faked peptides out there, reason being it's almost the highest-cost product (for us) from our manufacturer. In order to keep costs at least somewhat competitive, it's thus one of our lowest margin products. I believe that there may be some difficulties in manufacturing it to a high standard, based on our experience.

And note about peptides in general:

At the Heart of a Vast Doping Network, an Alias
"The head of Switzerland's antidoping organization told me that his agency's tests have shown that 80 percent of the peptides advertised on the web are adulterated or outright fakes."

Oh I don't doubt that some companies fake peptides and they are usually not in business long. I see what you are saying.

It's my understanding that products that can be noticed immediately are the ones that not faked(this is word of mouth from a supplier), but could be underdosed slightly to save on cost. For instance MK, PT-141, Melantonon, Tb500.

I'm not sure what you consider expensive as the cost of obtaining raws in general for peptides or AAS, but as you know it is very minimal in perspective.

mands

 

[X-Peptides]

You're absolutely right on the underdosing part, which is what the "adulterated" part of the quote I gave likely referred to.

For example, you may have seen this study on MT2, which found that most of the ones they examined were only 50% pure:

http://sci-hub.la/http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.1655/pdf

The cost of raws combined with manufacturing difficulty differs significantly from peptide to peptide, even if it's not great compared to the final cost. To give you an idea, here are the top several proteins/peptides in terms of highest cost for us, on a milligram basis:

1. IGF-1 LR3/DES (by far)
2. HGH
3. CJC 1295/DAC (almost as much as HGH)
4. TB500

(We don't sell HGH btw, but had it tested along with the others.)

 

[mands]

You're absolutely right on the underdosing part, which is what the "adulterated" part of the quote I gave likely referred to.

For example, you may have seen this study on MT2, which found that most of the ones they examined were only 50% pure:

http://sci-hub.la/http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.1655/pdf

The cost of raws combined with manufacturing difficulty differs significantly from peptide to peptide, even if it's not great compared to the final cost. To give you an idea, here are the top several proteins/peptides in terms of highest cost for us, on a milligram basis:

1. IGF-1 LR3/DES (by far)
2. HGH
3. CJC 1295/DAC (almost as much as HGH)
4. TB500

(We don't sell HGH btw, but had it tested along with the others.)

I was thinking adulterating as in using something else cheaper or less quality. Yes totally agree.

I was actually going to mention IGF-1. I'm glad you pointed it out. Thank you for the links.

I would tread lightly in other threads if you are indeed a source. If so I would do one of the following:

1. Make a thread in the underground and stick to it.
2. Use another username and don't use discussions to solicit sales.

mands

 

[X-Peptides]

Appreciate the advice, I'll go and do that. I started posting a little last year and just survived the initiation, lol. But I didn't know how things work exactly, so thanks for the info.

 

[Demondosage]

Update: after finally smartening up and getting xrays I realize the cause of the pain is a giant bone spur on the tip of my elbow , along with loose fragment in my elbow. I'm going to need an elbow scope to clean the area out and grind down the spur. Nothing I take can fix this, so cannot say tb500 worked since this is entirely a diff issue

 

[ruikosta]

I used it about 2yrs ago for a bad shoulder. It worked really well. Hurt it again recently and just started another run yesterday. I'm hoping for another miracle.

hi , how is it so far and where did you get it from ?

 

[ruikosta]

Works wonders. Also helps with endurance. But prolonged use I believe can lead to tumor growth if your predisposed to them.

and how did you come up with that ? do you have studies or links to studies?

 

[Seven]

hi , how is it so far and where did you get it from ?

No miracle this time, it still hurts. I wouldn't say it's the TB's fault though.

It was from Progen.

 

[ruikosta]

No miracle this time, it still hurts. I wouldn't say it's the TB's fault though.

It was from Progen.

could it be that its not TB-500 !

 

[Seven]

could it be that its not TB-500 !

Maybe. Have you heard of Progen?

 

[ruikosta]

Maybe. Have you heard of Progen?

honest I don't , by the way you can order from a legit pharmaceutical lab in china and get a purity test but the idea is how can you get the package ! i don't know ...

 

[ruikosta]

if anaboliclab.com does testing on peptides then that will save aaaah loooootttaa effort ...