Tbol or Anavar: which do you prefer for a more cardio-intense cycle?

[hawkberry04]

I’m about to start at a cycling and trying to choose between Anavar and Tbol. The only other compound is testosterone and at a cruise dose. Preparing for marathon season.

 

[Shakez]

Neither. Both give absolutely debilitating cramps on long runs.

 

[Ruru_Teh_seks]

Maybe use EQ or DHB

 

[VidMc]

During season i mix in some anavar. Lower back cramps at +40mg. So normally i do just 30mg.

Sounds crazy but to me dbol works even better. Just once every second week pwo. cause you dont want to gain to much water / weight. But i can run like crazy.

There is nothing like hgh. 3iu an hour before having a proper run. Took 10iu before marathon. Recovery is crazy. Its simply the best and feels much better and is less toxic.

 

[hawkberry04]

During season i mix in some anavar. Lower back cramps at +40mg. So normally i do just 30mg.

Sounds crazy but to me dbol works even better. Just once every second week pwo. cause you dont want to gain to much water / weight. But i can run like crazy.

There is nothing like hgh. 3iu an hour before having a proper run. Took 10iu before marathon. Recovery is crazy. It’s simply the best and feels much better and is less toxic.

This is really interesting. I’m curious - how do you handle eating if you are dosing right before a run? I’d love to be able to do this. I run within 30 mins to an hour after waking up but I need a little food in me especially before the long or hard efforts.

 

[BigDadd7]

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There is nothing like hgh. 3iu an hour before having a proper run. Took 10iu before marathon. Recovery is crazy. Its simply the best and feels much better and is less toxic.

That's all in your head. HGH doesn’t work like that.

 

[hawkberry04]

That's all in your head. HGH doesn’t work like that.

How does it work then? Do you think it could/should be taken before a long run to enhance recovery? If not, how do you think it should be taken? Many endurance athletes rave about the effects of HGH but I’ve really struggled to dial it into my regimen appropriately.

 

[BigDadd7]

How does it work then? Do you think it could/should be taken before a long run to enhance recovery? If not, how do you think it should be taken? Many endurance athletes rave about the effects of HGH but I’ve really struggled to dial it into my regimen appropriately.

It works long term by slowly accelerating repair pathways. It is not an instant preworkout and it is not a steroid. Google is your friend for this one.

 

[VidMc]

Take it the whole season. Four times a week but always pwo. To me it works like that over 10+ years. There is a reason why endurance people do it since decades. But thats just my Personal expierience and my opinion. no science four sure.

 

[Ryobi]

Dbol makes me run like Michael Johnson in Atlanta 1996

 

[the_pope]

I’m about to start at a cycling and trying to choose between Anavar and Tbol. The only other compound is testosterone and at a cruise dose. Preparing for marathon season.

both are terrible for running. Tbol made it almost impossible to do long cardio sessions for me. Anavar only slightly less so. They make my calves and lower back so pumped they hurt.

 

[Slowww]

Why take orals that are known to increase a pump & potentially effect appetite for a marathon instead of things that affect work capacity, oxygen levels in blood, or even just non-aromatizing injectable PEDS?

 

[Sunbather]

Neither are conducive to better cardio, def better compounds out there for this.

 

[malomkarom]

If it's steady state low intensity cardio, fuck orals. They literally end your training session before reaching your natty limits cause you can't take a step on your calves. Take EQ or Bold cyp and enough test to not crash E2.

If you wanna have a stint of training peak capacity while preparing:

TBOL all the way.

AROUND 100-400mg EQ depending on your tolerance
10-30mg Tbol probably closer to the lower end of that range cause it's not 1:1 effect:dose curve and it causes cramps with prolonged contractions.

Enough test to be at desired E2 on your desired EQ dose.

Have fun training man, I'd never do marathons, fuck stady state, I'll let you guys take my spot lmao

 

[VikingMD]

You all might want investigate Marita Koch. Tbol absolutely has and can be used by aerobic athletes with great effects. However, they used much lower doses than you are. The common start was 0.125mg/kg of lean mass.

These results were mainly for sprints up to 800 meters, but half mile runners run fairly long runs in training

 

[Shakez]

You all might want investigate Marita Koch. Tbol absolutely has and can be used by aerobic athletes with great effects. However, they used much lower doses than you are. The common start was 0.125mg/kg of lean mass.

These results were mainly for sprints up to 800 meters, but half mile runners run fairly long runs in training

He said marathon season. The thought of a 20 mile run on tbol sends shivers down my spine.