Tbol or dbol along side trt.

[Switcha2011]

Hi guys hope you all had a good christmas/new year.

Ive currently been on TRT for around 9 months now. Im thinking of adding either some dbol or tbol into the mix for 6-8 weeks. Ive taken dbol during past cycles but never tbol. Looking to gain strength and put some mass on while not putting to much fat on. Given this im swaying more towards tbol. Whats people's advice/protocols on tbol over dbol?? Tia.

 

[Mfras]

Dbol will introduce bigtime estrogen, tbol won’t.

Why not just up the test if you want durable gains?

 

[adrenalytic]

Hi guys hope you all had a good christmas/new year.

Ive currently been on TRT for around 9 months now. Im thinking of adding either some dbol or tbol into the mix for 6-8 weeks. Ive taken dbol during past cycles but never tbol. Looking to gain strength and put some mass on while not putting to much fat on. Given this im swaying more towards tbol. Whats people's advice/protocols on tbol over dbol?? Tia.

tbol is quite toxic. Never run it personally but the literature suggests not using it beyond a couple weeks. Not sure if I've seen injectable tbol around but if you can find it I'd suggest that over oral. Injectable anadrol might be the better option if you have access.

 

[BigDadd7]

Two bad ideas. Just up the test.

 

[Switcha2011]

Was trying to keep test at the trt range and not go up or down with that, so thought just add a oral in.

 

[Mfras]

Was trying to keep test at the trt range and not go up or down with that, so thought just add a oral in.

That’s backwards. Orals are ‘less safe’ and you can run test at 300/week with little to no side effects and probably get more gains that stay. Doing a blast of 500/week test, especially as a first timer will both teach you how to read bloodwork and how to control e2 for your individual response- super valuable skills if you want to ever step farther into peds. Plus you will definitely make gains and if you don’t have to pct because you can just drop back to TRT they will most likely be kept.

 

[Switcha2011]

That’s backwards. Orals are ‘less safe’ and you can run test at 300/week with little to no side effects and probably get more gains that stay. Doing a blast of 500/week test, especially as a first timer will both teach you how to read bloodwork and how to control e2 for your individual response- super valuable skills if you want to ever step farther into peds. Plus you will definitely make gains and if you don’t have to pct because you can just drop back to TRT they will most likely be kept.

Appreciate the advice. Ive ran several cycles in the past. Have ran dbol npp and test before.

 

[Cyp180]

I would do Dbol and control your Estrogen.

 

[Mfras]

I would do Dbol and control your Estrogen.

I thought dbol was super light on actual gains just heavy on temporary strength? I mean I tried it recently and read up after and that’s the impression I got.

If you like NPP why not just do that? It’s my favorite for gaining lean mass.

 

[RockyP]

Need to do a lot more reading before you do anything. Orals really are not worth it for most users aside from contest prep or intermittent preworkout use. Injectables are much safer (we can exclude Tren and injectable orals for now), and test is in fact best.

Skip the orals. Increase the test if anything. Whether or not you put fat on is 100% diet related and not at all to do with gear.