loveyourbody
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Damn, I'm 5'5 194lb at the moment 9% body fat
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Teen, low testosterone [bloodwork pics]
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Candyskull
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At 18 I got down to 138 pounds at 6'2", but usually hovered around 150 until I was 25 or so. Ate everything but the table, and could not put weight on beyond that. Bloods were always normal. Hell, my test was high. I think some of us just have shit genetics.
Candyskull
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Holy shit, really? That's amazing!
You have a fucked up thyroid if your mouth is always dry no matter how much you drink. My brother was like that and was always low on energy and my parents did not bother to do anything. Took him to my doctor and they found his tsh high, fixed it, and he feels totally different. Its a good thing you said you had that dry mouth. Definately get that tsh fixed asap. Now I'm dead set on that tsh is causing your symptoms and low test levels.
Damn....
Well... you're at least on the right path if they're exploring Hashimoto's. I don't think your Endo sucks, as much as she's just slow to act. The odds of someone your age having something serious are very low. Therefore, docs tend to move very slowly. It's frustrating. I don't know why they don't do all the testing at once, but that's how they roll.
The problem with hormones, is that it can be from an outside source, from trauma, or from 180 different things. When I asked all those questions, I touched a little on the pituitary. It's the master gland that controls most hormones. Tumors can produce GH issues resulting in excessive growth (at 6'3" you're tall, but not a giant). Under - functioning pituitary can cause multiple hormones to be off. I'm not sure that is what's going on with you.
The kicker to all this, is that you could have issues with testosterone and TSH separately, or it could be related. Hell... it could be an outside source and once removed, you could be good to go.
I'll say it again, because it took me a while to figure out... medicine can be a slow process bro, it may take a while for shit to get figured out and then fixed.
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Its going to be hard to find someone but when my brother was 19 he had tsh problems just like the op with the dry mouth and low test, fixed the tsh level and everything was normal. But like you said it could be that both his thyroid and testosterone are both separate issues. The tsh may be fixed, but for the testosterone if it is separate no doctor is probably going to want to treat that until late 20's after their are sure that you are grown and your natural hormones have balanced out.
DestroyerOfWorlds
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When i was 18 my test level was 126 i didnt even know i had low test but after much depression and mood swings and failed medication attempts my doc tested me. I wish i knew than what i know now. I wish i could have tried hcg blast or clomid or nolva before being on trt for life
I was diagnosed as hypothyroid when my primary did a FSH test.My FSH was 11.4.I went to and endo and he dosesd me 88mcg of T4 and after 2 months and another blodd test it was TSH 2.680 and T4 was 1.37. Watched an episode of Dr OZ and he had a thyroid specialist on there and she said too many doctors treat thyroid problems with blood test that are in range instead of treating the symptoms........She said a lot of people are with in range but still suffer the symptoms. My T4 and FSH are in the middle range but i still cant loose weght like i should,i am eating less than 2000 cal a day and cant loose weight even though i workout regularly.When i was younger mid 30's i had a hard time gaining weight.Although if feel better and some things have improved somethings still not right and i am going to talk to my endo on my next visit.
More results came back.
First testosterone test was 356, second was 288, now it's;
Kind of pissed, should of pulled an all nighter to wake my endo up/crash levels as I know nothing will be done, pretty depressing. Should I push to get my estrogen checked maybe? I'm just sick of this fucking brain fog, cold fucking hands and feeling like shit all fucking day, seriously.
Should I get my own clomid or something?
Guess I have to deal with it, fuck my life man.
First testosterone test was 356, second was 288, now it's;
Kind of pissed, should of pulled an all nighter to wake my endo up/crash levels as I know nothing will be done, pretty depressing. Should I push to get my estrogen checked maybe? I'm just sick of this fucking brain fog, cold fucking hands and feeling like shit all fucking day, seriously.
Should I get my own clomid or something?
Guess I have to deal with it, fuck my life man.
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You sound like someone who is entering a stage of major depression. I had a lot of emotional issues as a teenager and I ended up spending half a decade in a dark place. At one point I could have cared less if I was dead or not. Give yourself some time, your mood swings will get a lot better as you get older, some where around 24-25 I finally saw life in a different light.
You making statements like "fuck my life" concerns me, life can at times me rough and at other times be wonderful, never should suicide be considered a solution. Having low testosterone and thyroid issues is an issue but it is not a good reason to give up on life or hope of a better quality of life, things could be much worst. Maybe you should see a psychotherapist or a psychiatrist if not already seeing one.
As you seem like your already depressed I wouldn't advise you trying Clomid, it might make your current emotional situation even worst, it makes me very depressed and brings up every feeling of regret and sorrow I have ever experienced in my life.
You making statements like "fuck my life" concerns me, life can at times me rough and at other times be wonderful, never should suicide be considered a solution. Having low testosterone and thyroid issues is an issue but it is not a good reason to give up on life or hope of a better quality of life, things could be much worst. Maybe you should see a psychotherapist or a psychiatrist if not already seeing one.
As you seem like your already depressed I wouldn't advise you trying Clomid, it might make your current emotional situation even worst, it makes me very depressed and brings up every feeling of regret and sorrow I have ever experienced in my life.
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weekend
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try hcg followed by toremifene
Candyskull
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Careful giving a 17 year old kid advice on home repair of his HPTA mate. I think his best course of action is through a doctors supervision. He needs to get to the root of the problem, not just start whacking powerful hormone altering drugs trial and error style.
BIGMESC
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So true Guy, A lot of people dream of being 18 again but there is no amount of money you could pay me to go back to my late teens, but being 25 again I would entertain.
I had some manic depressive episodes going on as a teen or something, though I was never diagnosed with bipolar or anything. I had some of the best times of my life and some of the worst. Shit got real when I had to do a bid though. I made bad choices during those early years that I look back on now and regret. It wasn't till my mid 20's did life start having real value to me and I actually was able to look forward and make better decisions. I think women mature faster with decision making. Only good thing about being 18 was being horny as hell and not putting on body fat.
I hate seeing young people throw away their lives or committing suicide; I bet most of them would have had a different look on things and made different decisions if they had made it to their mid twenties.
I hate seeing young people throw away their lives or committing suicide; I bet most of them would have had a different look on things and made different decisions if they had made it to their mid twenties.
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the kid needs to get thyroid checked again. All the symptoms of hand being cold, dry mouth, brain fog, are all high tsh problems. I understand his test is low, but that is a side effect of a fucked up thyroid.
More results came back.
First testosterone test was 356, second was 288, now it's;
Kind of pissed, should of pulled an all nighter to wake my endo up/crash levels as I know nothing will be done, pretty depressing. Should I push to get my estrogen checked maybe? I'm just sick of this fucking brain fog, cold fucking hands and feeling like shit all fucking day, seriously.
Should I get my own clomid or something?
Guess I have to deal with it, fuck my life man.
Don't get anything! Maybe a punching bag to take your frustrations out on, but don't self medicate. I know it's frustrating to see lower end T levels, but they're within norms and you're way to young for that shit! You'll end up causing more issues.
I think the rest of the crew on here is steering you in the right direction too... keep checking thyroid, maybe get your E/E2 done. I would honestly sit down with the parents and give them your concerns. Ask for their support. Show them research on how thyroid levels work, and how they can affect testosterone. Show them common symptoms of the two issues. Then... ask them to help advocate for you. Have them demand an answer from the doctor as to why your TSH is high and why there isn't anything being done if you're symptomatic.
Hang in there bro! My insurance is slow as hell, and I have to wait months for shit to happen! I feel your pain!
Sorry for sounding like an emo bitch, it just irks me that I have to do all of this by myself, like I legit had to tell my endo to check for T3 (she said it's useless, and to piss me off she only did my total T3, which is worthless) which is only the beginning. Also being almost 18 and haven't had an urge to masturbate in 15+ days (only erections I get are in the morning when I need to piss) really makes me wonder. Hell, I don't even mind that it's just the poor circulation to hands and feet along with them being cold, dry eyes, and the BRAIN FOG. I really hope it's actually fixable as I can't imagine being able to complete college this year constantly forgetting where I set my phone down 10 seconds prior.
Luckily my prime care physician actually understands reference ranges and has an open mind and is open to whatever symptoms/blood work I'd want to get done as I spoke to him on the phone today.
I plan to ask him to test for everything found on here;
Recommended Labwork | Stop The Thyroid Madness
Anything else of interest? I'm thinking of printing the tests found on that website out and giving them to him to test for.
Any insight appreciated., really appreciate any responses.
Luckily my prime care physician actually understands reference ranges and has an open mind and is open to whatever symptoms/blood work I'd want to get done as I spoke to him on the phone today.
I plan to ask him to test for everything found on here;
Recommended Labwork | Stop The Thyroid Madness
Anything else of interest? I'm thinking of printing the tests found on that website out and giving them to him to test for.
Any insight appreciated., really appreciate any responses.
Yes, print those test out and give it to the doc. It seems to cover pretty much everything.
I'm just worried that I'll have the same issues I've been having of being obviously low on total test, and free test for my age and with clear hypothyroidism in the eyes of some doctors but being turned away and stuck with these shitty symptoms :/
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