Cool cuz mands actually recommended I do this for mass. I like doing the whole motion because it helps with conditioning but I've done them before like you say
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I see what you're saying. You're doing it more as a pull and a press than an actual clean and jerk. You may have better luck doing hang cleans and into a push press as those can be done with slightly more reps
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SOUNDS good in theory. Probably won't transition like you expect bc as Doc stated your primary focus should be velocity and bar speed. However, if you don't hurt yourself you may end up really liking the full body stuff..never know.
The thing to keep in mind is
a) Doc's point on the rep range not being ideal for hypertrophy
b) you're recruiting strength from the entire body, a majority of this is from the legs..
seated BB shoulder press I'm AWFUL. I perform at an adequate level on the clean and jerk & snatch, bc of my pull and then the push from my legs, it's def not my shoulders.
EDIT: AHH so you are basically doin them stiff-legged? I'd just watch that back trucker
Yes sir....I'm doing it the hard way. No technique necessary. It's probably critical I don't develop a technique now that I think about it
I'm not using legs at all. It's all upper body. Reps of 6. If I get more add some weight
soooo uhhh whatcha think about "crossfit"? @Docd187123
How bout we do as many reps as we can in a minute? No wait, let's do as many reps as we can in a minute then do 40 snatches, then seizure on the pull-up bar for 20 1/4 reps and...let's make it interesting....fuck form how bout we see who can do it the fastest???
Remember when crossfit had that time where ppl were tearing Achilles' tendons bc of times box jumps and deadlifts? Yea, my cousin was one of those casualties
I think that's why TEK is making the distinction between an actual clean and jerk and what you plan on doing. A clean most definitely involves legs and hip drive and is not anything like an upward row bc you don't row the bar up to your clavicle/delt area. Rather you explode it upwards high enough and fast enough to get under the bar and catch/rack the weight on your upper chest. The devil is in the details and if you're not planning on literally cleaning the weight sure it could work ok for you
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as soon as I walked in a few years back and saw my 120lb gf with NO prior training exp or ANY type doing single arm snatch with a kettlebell I started trashing the instructors, she was so embarrassed, I was the asshole. Next day she could barely walk, and her shoulders were destroyed, when I found out it was like $90/month I convinced her I would get her a real trainer. USAW certified trainer...idk what crossfit level 1 means but apparently not much of anything as far as I can tellRemember when crossfit had that time where ppl were tearing Achilles' tendons bc of times box jumps and deadlifts? Yea, my cousin was one of those casualties
I think what truck is talking about, will definantly spur growth. By doing this lift he will add strength for sure, strength that he will use to lift bigger weights in his more conventional BB lifts. Bigger weights= bigger muscles.
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I think if we get Squatch on the platform he may never leave...
and yes this will add mass in the shoulders traps stiff legged for sure.
I used to do stiff legged, slow, one arm alternating clean and press with DB.
it's basically a reverse curl/bent front raise from your upper thigh to shoulder, then a OH press. Do it slow and controlled on the negative and you will be burning. That's a trap killer
That's what I'm talking about. There's no thought of where the lifter is in terms of experience yet they throw everyone in together. If you find a good box then they're actually pretty good instructors and workouts for some. The bad boxes though outnumber the good by far. There was a navy guy who got rhabdo from crossfit. The crossfit community basically laughed and belittled him when he tried suing crossfit.
Still here guys. Apologies for not chiming in. The season for the sport of excercise comes to an end this month, so I can put more time into other areas of training.
I also was waiting for the discussion to turn to ballet. Haha!
gr8whitetrukker, if your dead is 4-5 hundred and your fsquat is 300+ then strength isn't holding you back from a higher clean. At that point it's all technique. Outside of getting coaching, I would break down the lifts into parts. Find your weakness, most likely its in the 2nd pull and keeping the bar close. And do complexes, which is a set of broken down movements. Example: clean pull-hang power clean-full clean. Usually done at a lower weight with focus on form and higher reps to drill in the tech.
Ok back to food and goats.
I also was waiting for the discussion to turn to ballet. Haha!
gr8whitetrukker, if your dead is 4-5 hundred and your fsquat is 300+ then strength isn't holding you back from a higher clean. At that point it's all technique. Outside of getting coaching, I would break down the lifts into parts. Find your weakness, most likely its in the 2nd pull and keeping the bar close. And do complexes, which is a set of broken down movements. Example: clean pull-hang power clean-full clean. Usually done at a lower weight with focus on form and higher reps to drill in the tech.
Ok back to food and goats.
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he lives!
Good to see you, and thanks for chiming in you have quite a way with words that translates very well.
No ballet right now, haven't seen that girl in awhile BUT, I should give it a shot again soon. My legs have been too spent to even think about something like that right now.
We gotta get video in here before that...
Good to see you, and thanks for chiming in you have quite a way with words that translates very well.
No ballet right now, haven't seen that girl in awhile BUT, I should give it a shot again soon. My legs have been too spent to even think about something like that right now.
We gotta get video in here before that...
This is how I imagine at TEK exercising....Not doing ballet
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What's training/life look like today?
What's training/life look like today?
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19 days and a wakeup tren a only.
Nuts seem like they fell back overnight.
Libido down, sleep down.
Sexual function fine.
STRENGTH UP, discernible improvements almost from day to day.
Aggression/general agitation high (some attributed to lack of sleep over past 48hrs)
everyday appear leaner, weight holding steady.
Determined the most logical plan of action now that sides presented themselves,
bumped dose up to 120mg/ED last night
Projecting start of test prop early next week.
Question
Which makes for more interesting conversation from yall's standpoint:
a) bloods that accurately portray test/E2 levels 3wks into tren only?
b) bloods that register tren as false E2?
I will run tren only again for same duration in a future blast and attempt to see if there is any correlation between product quality/dose and false positive readings on bloodwork.
Neither. Don't see the point.19 days and a wakeup tren a only.
Nuts seem like they fell back overnight.
Libido down, sleep down.
Sexual function fine.
STRENGTH UP, discernible improvements almost from day to day.
Aggression/general agitation high (some attributed to lack of sleep over past 48hrs)
everyday appear leaner, weight holding steady.
Determined the most logical plan of action now that sides presented themselves,
bumped dose up to 120mg/ED last night
Projecting start of test prop early next week.
Question
Which makes for more interesting conversation from yall's standpoint:
a) bloods that accurately portray test/E2 levels 3wks into tren only?
b) bloods that register tren as false E2?
I will run tren only again for same duration in a future blast and attempt to see if there is any correlation between product quality/dose and false positive readings on bloodwork.
I would be curious for A, to see how much tren suppresses your natty T levels19 days and a wakeup tren a only.
Nuts seem like they fell back overnight.
Libido down, sleep down.
Sexual function fine.
STRENGTH UP, discernible improvements almost from day to day.
Aggression/general agitation high (some attributed to lack of sleep over past 48hrs)
everyday appear leaner, weight holding steady.
Determined the most logical plan of action now that sides presented themselves,
bumped dose up to 120mg/ED last night
Projecting start of test prop early next week.
Question
Which makes for more interesting conversation from yall's standpoint:
a) bloods that accurately portray test/E2 levels 3wks into tren only?
b) bloods that register tren as false E2?
I will run tren only again for same duration in a future blast and attempt to see if there is any correlation between product quality/dose and false positive readings on bloodwork.
