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Terrible low back pain
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Ghoul
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It can happen from picking up a pencil from the floor.
iris
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Well, if he told you to stop doing deads, he was right.
Just go get an imaging of the spine and that's the end of it.
Then you can take it from there
Unfortunately, this is why I wrote "capable person" in my earlier reply. These are somewhat hard to find
You could search for physical therapist who has a background in competitive sports, your chances increase.
Another idea is to look where an olympic support point/base is close to your location, there could be docs that treat olympic athletes, but take on (relatively
normal people with general health insurance, too.I am not a doctor, so take everything I say from now on with the utmost care:
- As you have stated that hyperextensions (leading to sheer-forces, 90° loading of the spine) are unaffected, but DL and SQ are, we know that vertical compression makes your symptoms re-appear or worse
=> bulged disc or herniated disc (as already mentioned in this thread) pinching nerves is a possibility
- You mentioned overtraining, so this could be the cause and ongoing issue; maybe you can find something on self-diagnosing the different kinds of overtraining in this wiki?
Bulged discs can revert by itself and until you find a "capable person", you could treat yourself with this in mind:
1. stop the offending exercises (everything that makes you feel even a 1/20 on your pain-scale; do not lie to yourself!)
2. treat with warmth/heat multiple times per day -> heated water bottle / IR
3. relax (chill in water, light swimming)
The next are ideas could bear some danger in this context, so be extra cautious or even postpone until healed (it is assumed you are otherwise healthy):
4. decompress by hanging from a bar (you have to learn to really relax everything while hanging, easier said than done)
5. as (4.) but start loading ankles with the lightest weight to increase decompression
6. if you can afford, buy old-school tool named "gravity boots", use these to decompress your spine in a totally passive way (inverted hanging by the ankles)
7. if 6 is mastered, add weight.
iris
Well-known Member
At least, it is hidden.
The ones i have have are not.
A scar on a man never looks as bad.
Laxman3221
New Member
After having multiple injections over years for lower back pain, bulging disk, what finally took the pain away was getting stretched by a trainer once a week.
Canceled my injection appt.
Canceled my injection appt.
bigMoJo
Member
Iris, I tagged Ghoul... not sure if you were being sarcastic. I'm really glad he chimed in here.
Ghoul, thanks for helping out here, even though its for OP.
Suffering through back pain myself, its one thing I don't wish on anyone... well, there are a couple of exceptions
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
i got messed up spine from car accidents too, , i just fractured L1-L2 in 2022 couldn't walk for a month,, better now still flares time to time
iris
Well-known Member
Iris, I tagged Ghoul... not sure if you were being sarcastic. I'm really glad he chimed in here.
Ghoul, thanks for helping out here, even though its for OP.
Suffering through back pain myself, its one thing I don't wish on anyone... well, there are a couple of exceptions
Of course.
If you read a bit above your message to him, I had mentioned Ghoul without tagging him.
I had just dragged him onto another thread, prior to that.
It seems we all have awful backs, for a reason or another.
I already knew a bit about him having back issues, that's why I mentioned him.
I knew he was going to see it, at some point.
It's like when I mention Narta somewhere: no tag, always, and yet he manages to find out....
Then he comes and tells me off because I wrote some random retarded crap...
Nobody knows how it works.
It's a kind of magic.
bigMoJo
Member
Ok, I thought so, but a small part of me thought you may have missed the tag.Of course.
If you read a bit above your message to him, I had mentioned Ghoul without tagging him.
I had just dragged him onto another thread, prior to that.
It seems we all have awful backs, for a reason or another.
I already knew a bit about him having back issues, that's why I mentioned him.
I knew he was going to see it, at some point.
It's like when I mention Narta somewhere: no tag, always, and yet he manages to find out....
Then he comes and tells me off because I wrote some random retarded crap...
Nobody knows how it works.
It's a kind of magic.
You "summon" them and they appear at your beck and call... you have that effect.
iris
Well-known Member
Ok, I thought so, but a small part of me thought you may have missed the tag.
You "summon" them and they appear at your beck and call... you have that effect.
Oh, God no! Lol
Sometimes, I see something before they do, knowing they will eventually visit the thread, so it's just a bit of banter.
Sometimes I kinda hope they don't see it but it's difficult to hide here, lol.
I kind of like dragging someone with me across a few threads, it's my way of letting them know I love them being there with me.
With some people (e.g Ghoul) I do it happily, because I know he doesn't mind.
With others, I avoid, because I think they may not like/want it.
But glad you asked.
If I write stuff like that, they know it means the opposite, really.
You'll get used to it, eventually.
AlexDavis43
Member
FrenchToastKing
New Member
I've been experiencing lower back pain for past 2 weeks. I guess my excessive use of the ab crunch machine is the reason.
The pain flares up right after I wake up and reaches its peak when I meditate in the lotus position. It also gets aggravated when I bend forward.
But i don't feel anything in the gym while I workout. I don't feel any radiating pain, so it's definitely not a bulged disc.
I used to skip on those rehab videos for back problems. But now, I binge on those ):
The pain flares up right after I wake up and reaches its peak when I meditate in the lotus position. It also gets aggravated when I bend forward.
But i don't feel anything in the gym while I workout. I don't feel any radiating pain, so it's definitely not a bulged disc.
I used to skip on those rehab videos for back problems. But now, I binge on those ):
I have some lower back pain as 4 years ago was diagnosed with early stage degenerative disk disease along with scoliosis, and I've been trying very hard not to aggravate it when training. No longer do deadlifts or heavy squats but rack pulls and belt squat with moderate weight.
I do know the wall of unrelenting pain is coming, so preparing for that as well as trying to stave it off by avoiding trauma to my back. Also have had broken my neck years ago in a fall so have to be careful there too.
I do know the wall of unrelenting pain is coming, so preparing for that as well as trying to stave it off by avoiding trauma to my back. Also have had broken my neck years ago in a fall so have to be careful there too.
DugPrime
Member
SSA carries dermorphin, a natural opioid that binds as an agonist with high potency and selectivity to mu-opioid receptors (being 40 times more potent than morphine). It completely suppressed my lower back pain. Hope that helps you.
AlexDavis43
Member
I'm not trying to be your dad but a lot of people wait way too long to get low back pain checked out. Could be nothing but could be excess suffering that only gets worse the longer you wait.
This. Also the older you get the worse it gets. I'm 60 and still trying to stay as pain free as I can without sacrificing the quality of life.
AlexDavis43
Member
Shit man, is surgery an option? Or trying to avoid surgery at all costs, in which case I'm not judging at all. Been there but it was not pleasant. I think it would've gone better if I got it sorted sooner.
I've been avoiding surgery especially at my age (60) as that carries a huge risk that I feel I don't want to take. Also I stayed away from opioids yet I got prescribed them after I had surgery for an Achilles tear earlier this year...and didn't touch them.
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