Test and anavar cycle worth it?

[Alias_name]

Anyone has good experience with test/var cycle? I’ll start cycle at the end of the cut, well into single digit bf and looking to get lean gains and nice strength gains throughout the summer. I did mast-p in past and i liked it, but pinning all the time is starting to get old, winstrol apparantly fucks with your joints and my joints are fucked already.. so that leaves me with anavar that i’ve never tried so far. I’ve heard mixed reviews about it so thats why i am on the edge. I thought about doing test-c 500 mg/week, anavar 280-350 mg/week. Thoughts, do you recommend something else?

 

[amazonas]

Solid cycle. You can never go wrong with Test+anavar only. Very little side effects too.

 

[saev]

"worth it" is fairly subjective

That said, I added 40mg var daily 4 weeks ago to my "cruise" of 240mg test c just for shits and giggles to see how I respond to it. It's an enjoyable experience so far. Had a lab draw this AM to check in on how hard it hits me.

The strength and pumps are extremely noticeable in the gym and last for a while. Former 8 reps turned to 12 reps on the deload/ramp up programming of my routine with no increase in bodyweight or consumed calories.

The other immediate thing I noticed in the additional compound is a change in my sweat odor and I'll occasionally get some gas that has 0 relation to anything food-related. Though everything Ive read indicates this is a source-by-source / individual-by-individual case and not the default. It is really funny though.

 

[Alias_name]

Solid cycle. You can never go wrong with Test+anavar only. Very little side effects too.

Sounds good, thanks.

"worth it" is fairly subjective

That said, I added 40mg var daily 4 weeks ago to my "cruise" of 240mg test c just for shits and giggles to see how I respond to it. It's an enjoyable experience so far. Had a lab draw this AM to check in on how hard it hits me.

The strength and pumps are extremely noticeable in the gym and last for a while. Former 8 reps turned to 12 reps on the deload/ramp up programming of my routine with no increase in bodyweight or consumed calories.

The other immediate thing I noticed in the additional compound is a change in my sweat odor and I'll occasionally get some gas that has 0 relation to anything food-related. Though everything Ive read indicates this is a source-by-source / individual-by-individual case and not the default. It is really funny though.

Sounds great, strength gains are my priority, and with very low bf every change on my body will be visible. I really loved how my body responded to masteron and looking to replicate that. Also, i heard anavar rising lipids but odor/gas change, lmao cant say i ve read that before, i ll keep my eye on that . Lastly, regarding “worth it”, i ve heard polarized opinions regarding anavar, from useless to must add compound.. and seeing that its not the cheapest steroid, i wanted to check others experiences on test/var only

 

[lilhawk]

Anavar will more than likely trash your lipids in a short amount of time at 40mg daily. Most orals will, but var is notorious for it. Used it many times, and its definitely not a must use compound and I'd much rather use test, primo, masteron along with GH.

 

[Sector]

I like test and var cycles personally, but yeah it'll destroy your cholesterol

 

[Greenbay68]

Great results. Watch your blood pressure though.

Anavar doesn’t moderate estrogen or estrogen side effects, and both compounds will raise blood pressure.

If you’re not super worried about hair or prostate, add in a little bit of masteron or primo. Just my 2 cents

 

[TheFlange]

Anavar's great for strength and vascularity.

I've tried it at 40/50/60mg ed. 60 was most fun for me.

Like others mentioned, it is bad on your lipids, so don't run it forever. And it does cause me an awful lot of cramps, so make sure to supplement taurine, magnesium, potassium, and stay well hydrated.

 

[Alias_name]

Anavar will more than likely trash your lipids in a short amount of time at 40mg daily. Most orals will, but var is notorious for it. Used it many times, and its definitely not a must use compound and I'd much rather use test, primo, masteron along with GH.

I like test and var cycles personally, but yeah it'll destroy your cholesterol

Great results. Watch your blood pressure though.

Anavar doesn’t moderate estrogen or estrogen side effects, and both compounds will raise blood pressure.

If you’re not super worried about hair or prostate, add in a little bit of masteron or primo. Just my 2 cents

Anavar's great for strength and vascularity.

I've tried it at 40/50/60mg ed. 60 was most fun for me.

Like others mentioned, it is bad on your lipids, so don't run it forever. And it does cause me an awful lot of cramps, so make sure to supplement taurine, magnesium, potassium, and stay well hydrated.

shit, my cholesterol is already slightly elevated.. i thought it returns to normal values after using it… would 4-8 weeks of anavar cause permanent damage or will it go back to normal values after discontinuing the usage? I thought anavar is one of the safer steroids out there.. if it fucks up your lipids permanently then its really not..
I dont have issues with hairloss and i loved masteron in the past, i just dont like pinning all the time thats why i thought about adding var to test cycle.. guess i ll have to think this through.

 

[TheFlange]

shit, my cholesterol is already slightly elevated.. i thought it returns to normal values after using it… would 4-8 weeks of anavar cause permanent damage or will it go back to normal values after discontinuing the usage? I thought anavar is one of the safer steroids out there.. if it fucks up your lipids permanently then its really not..
I dont have issues with hairloss and i loved masteron in the past, i just dont like pinning all the time thats why i thought about adding var to test cycle.. guess i ll have to think this through.

It won't fuck your lipids permanently. Don't think there's any evidence of that. Just supplement accordingly, do cardio, and only use it for a few weeks at a time.

 

[Greenbay68]

shit, my cholesterol is already slightly elevated.. i thought it returns to normal values after using it… would 4-8 weeks of anavar cause permanent damage or will it go back to normal values after discontinuing the usage? I thought anavar is one of the safer steroids out there.. if it fucks up your lipids permanently then its really not..
I dont have issues with hairloss and i loved masteron in the past, i just dont like pinning all the time thats why i thought about adding var to test cycle.. guess i ll have to think this through.

If you use Mast Enanthate you can reduce pinning down to 1-2x per week.

When lipids are bad: it’s a sign of your body being off balance, resulting in damage. If you do 6 weeks of anavar, and it messes up your lipids, it doesn’t matter if your lipids recover 6 weeks after that.

The result is that 6 weeks of your life, you were damaging your arterial health. There is no evidence that this damage can be reversed. We know that we can protect ourselves somewhat with K2, NAC, but the damage is done.

So if you do a 20 week cycle where you lipids are trashed during, but magically at week 24 your lipids are great, it’s a little bit of a good sign that your liver can turn the numbers around quickly, but it DOES NOT affect the basic fact that for 20 weeks you put yourself in a damaging state in order to trade for mass.

If you value longevity, it’s so important to see which compounds allow your lipids to remain roughly unchanged DURING the cycle. This is why old guys like primo, low dose masteron and lower dose test. These things for most people have been proven by bloodwork to be the least damaging.

Your mileage WILL vary, so set aside money for bloodwork often, if you value a long life.

 

[Alias_name]

If you use Mast Enanthate you can reduce pinning down to 1-2x per week.

When lipids are bad: it’s a sign of your body being off balance, resulting in damage. If you do 6 weeks of anavar, and it messes up your lipids, it doesn’t matter if your lipids recover 6 weeks after that.

The result is that 6 weeks of your life, you were damaging your arterial health. There is no evidence that this damage can be reversed. We know that we can protect ourselves somewhat with K2, NAC, but the damage is done.

So if you do a 20 week cycle where you lipids are trashed during, but magically at week 24 your lipids are great, it’s a little bit of a good sign that your liver can turn the numbers around quickly, but it DOES NOT affect the basic fact that for 20 weeks you put yourself in a damaging state in order to trade for mass.

If you value longevity, it’s so important to see which compounds allow your lipids to remain roughly unchanged DURING the cycle. This is why old guys like primo, low dose masteron and lower dose test. These things for most people have been proven by bloodwork to be the least damaging.

Your mileage WILL vary, so set aside money for bloodwork often, if you value a long life.

Thanks for the great insight, i will adjust accordingly..

 

[OldGHGuy]

For me , 25mg per day (12.5x2) of Var equates to a cholesterol hit (tested) of:
HDL -15 pts
LDL +45 pts
This is why I limit its use to 6 weeks at a time, 1 or 2 times per year.

 

[lukiss96]

Age is also a major factor, early twenties you can get away with permablasting and be surprised with how quickly your body recovers from all that abuse.

Approaching the thirties and then so on, body it's not as forviging as it used to be. From here on now it's about finding that balance and moderation.

Source - myself.